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Post Post #250  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:06 am

In post 249, Narna wrote:Break it down for me Ari. I'm not too keen on eww posting.
Does that not read as disgusting scumposting to you??
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Post Post #251  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:10 am

But fine. First quote he waaaay overexplains what should be a somple answer. Like "Oh shit, so I did!" would have sufficed. He goes into meta and subconscious reasoning which reads as overly defensive without need.

In the second, it is pure discrediting of Kain. He wouldn't ask if he didn't have a reason, and claiming rolefishing is ridiculous when Dreal himself mused lying both to Kain and to the questionnaire. It jus isn't hte stance of a towny.
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Post Post #252  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:14 am

The only thing that was pinging me about Dreal was
In post 241, drealmerz7 wrote:also, it seems odd that you'd reveal you had such a role too, or that there'd even been one

which you didn't quote

pedit: I see what you're saying on the first post. The second is iffy just because everyone discredits qtepes.

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Post Post #253  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:20 am

I mean, Kain can easily be discounted in a lot of as, but he shouldn't be. And he's making a bold effort here, which should be recognized and not quashed.

As for the quote you posted, what pinged you there?
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Post Post #254  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:24 am

KT is overly aggressive. Softing a role to break rvs deems up his alley. Also, [REDACTED[

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Post Post #255  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:26 am

Ah, classic redacted reasoning.

JT is being aggressive, and I love it!
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Post Post #256  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:27 am

But because I'm unfamiliar with Dreal and KT's history, he may not know that. Comparing that to his pressure on Frank, kind of makes me lean town.

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Post Post #257  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:28 am

In post 255, Aristophanes wrote:Ah, classic redacted reasoning.

JT is being aggressive, and I love it!

Are you suggesting KT wouldn't do that? Or are you shading me?

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Post Post #258  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:47 am

So....McMenno????
;)

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Post Post #259  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:51 am

No, Lane

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Post Post #260  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:53 am

hmmmm



nah
;)

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Post Post #261  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:59 am

Is Lane town?

Find scum intent in mcmeemo posting.

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Post Post #262  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:00 am

Fuck Britbongs

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Post Post #263  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:22 am

In post 261, Narna wrote:Is Lane town?


Could be ya.

Find scum intent in mcmeemo posting.


Faking the PR; no meaningful response to his wagon; no thoughts on dreal responding to his wagon for him.
;)

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Post Post #264  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:34 am

In post 257, Narna wrote:
In post 255, Aristophanes wrote:Ah, classic redacted reasoning.

KT is being aggressive, and I love it!

Are you suggesting KT wouldn't do that? Or are you shading me?
I wasn't intentionally shading if that's how it seemed...
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Post Post #265  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:56 am

In post 264, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 257, Narna wrote:
In post 255, Aristophanes wrote:Ah, classic redacted reasoning.

KT is being aggressive, and I love it!

Are you suggesting KT wouldn't do that? Or are you shading me?
I wasn't intentionally shading if that's how it seemed...

I read 255 as being completely sarcastic.

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Post Post #266  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:23 am

I went to bed cause I'd been up too long and didn't have the energy to go on

it's bogus for me to get votes because I think it makes sense to be cautious and was trying to express why I think so

too often I see players rushing to out all sorts of information because "they think it's cool" or something to have the information or to be the role and they don't temper that with tactfulness/strategy or even common sense that "hey, maybe it's best to keep that under wraps"

once the beans are spilled, you can't put them back is all, so best to make sure you want to spill them before just doing it

would love to hear what everyone has to say about all of that, it's good content
balance among all things

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Post Post #267  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:12 pm

Even if everyone answered truthfully both on the questionnaire and in their answers here I don't think we'd be able to deduce anything from that information. We don't know what kind of assumptions xyzzy was making to interpret the data and make design decisions.

I don't know if it's necessarily anti-town, mainly because merely discussing this issue can provide alignment indicators, but I do think it could end up dominating the discussion and give scum an easy IIoA avenue.
;)

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Post Post #268  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:18 pm

Ari voting Dreal partly for discrediting KT, but not responding to KT's inquiry about the survey is giving me bad vibes though.

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Post Post #269  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:19 pm

Ya that's kind of weird. I was going to say that it's kind of similar to what I said but it's really not.
;)

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Post Post #270  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:38 pm

In post 136, drealmerz7 wrote:KAIN TEPPES,

we haven't really had much of a chance to meet or interact

if I don't get frustrated or pissed off, I'm a fucking blast to play with (I think) and I look forward to playing with you!!!!!!


The irony is not lost on this one.

Still kinda in RVS mode myself. Must be the playerlist. Think I'll leave a VOTE: Desperado though.

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Post Post #271  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:56 pm

Dreal is prob town.

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Post Post #272  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:56 pm

But i think he is wrong about his stance on the questions

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Post Post #273  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:14 pm

"do you think anyone would notice if I just used the same flavor for two votecounts in a row?" asked the omnipotent sky voice. "I'm not feeling up to putting in effort right now."

votecount 1.043 players voting for drealmerz7 (KainTepes, Davsto, Aristophanes)
2 players voting for McMenno (Desperado, lane0168)
2 players voting for KainTepes (Secret Agent Jin, drealmerz7)
2 players voting for Davsto (McMenno, SnarkySnowman)
1 player voting for lane0168 (Narna)
1 player voting for Desperado (ɀefiend)

2 players not voting (Gamma Emerald, FrankJaeger)

with 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch

the day will end in 0 days, 2 hours, 2 minutes


mod notes: Secret Agent Jin is V/LA until January 16.
my gtkas thread
a lot of you have difficulty typing "xyzzy" correctly so if you want you can just call me Avril

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Post Post #274  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:59 pm

In post 240, Narna wrote:
In post 238, ɀefiend wrote:
In post 234, Narna wrote:Lane's question to Dreal seems like phony busywork.

VOTE: Lane

Even though it might have been the first non-RVS post made in the game? Someone's gotta get the ball rolling right?

I'm trying to get the ball rolling. Lane didn't really engage rvs at all, and he enters the game trying to break rvs by questioning something that didn't seem alignment indicative to me. Dreal's bit on Frank, and KT's question seem like more genuine attempts to break rvs here.


What is busy about it? You're quick on that I think. One post asking a legitimate question. Can you think of any reasons someone might accidentally pay more attention to votes on one person as opposed to another? You say I enter trying to break rvs. How well do you think town does if rvs never ends? I engaged rvs. I voted mcmenno. Then I saw something that interested me. Why don't you go look at the posts before and after my question, then tell me when rvs ended. Your accusation doesn't make sense on many levels. You might even call it busy work.

Who else is on your suspicion list that didn't really engage in rvs? Are kt and dreal on your list for trying to break rvs? Like you said I was doing?

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