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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:06 pm
by lane0168
In post 241, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 233, KainTepes wrote:because you are reluctant to reveal your answer,, and insistent on scumreading me for asking this question, and i dont think you have a good reason for trying to stop people from answering my question

I'm reluctant to assume revealing my answer does town any good

I'm not soley SRing because you ask the question, and you simplifying it as such as a way to dismiss the validity of my concerns is even more telling

my reasons are pro-town cautionary

and itseems like you're zoooming as fast as you can to get whatever you can before my CAUTIONARY influence is heeded at all (and you try to discredit my influence at the same time, of course)

people can always reveal in time to come, they can never take it back

do you see my concern?

also, it seems odd that you'd reveal you had such a role too, or that there'd even been one


So far two of my answers didn't come true. Different voting mechanics, and my role preference. I don't think your cautionary is pro town, and I certainly wouldn't call Kain tapes wanting to know anti town or scummy. There's a lot of fallacy in your posts.

Also, people can never take it back. Who would want to take it back? That seems like a scum mindset, not answering cause you can't take it back. Why would you want to?

Why would people lie on the questionnaire? Because they hate themselves?

I personally don't see your overwhelming concern at all. You're not satisfied to not answer, but also continue to argue against anyone else doing it. I don't get that.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:08 pm
by lane0168
And I'm with Ari, I don't buy that you showed concern only for votes on mcmenno because you subconsciously were thinking he was a day 1 early easy lynch for scum. It was really rvs. That's absurd. Maybe MAYBE I'd buy it if there was really pressure and legitimate wagon on him, but that's not even close to what it was

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:11 pm
by lane0168
I'm also noting nama calling my question busy work, but dreals questioning rvs votes on mcmenno is not mentioned.

One of them takes actual observation. One of them is about as easy as it gets

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:17 pm
by lane0168
In post 244, Narna wrote:
In post 241, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 233, KainTepes wrote:because you are reluctant to reveal your answer,, and insistent on scumreading me for asking this question, and i dont think you have a good reason for trying to stop people from answering my question

I'm reluctant to assume revealing my answer does town any good

I'm not soley SRing because you ask the question, and you simplifying it as such as a way to dismiss the validity of my concerns is even more telling

my reasons are pro-town cautionary

and itseems like you're zoooming as fast as you can to get whatever you can before my CAUTIONARY influence is heeded at all (and you try to discredit my influence at the same time, of course)

people can always reveal in time to come, they can never take it back

do you see my concern?

also, it seems odd that you'd reveal you had such a role too, or that there'd even been one

If revealing shit turns out to be bad for town, it would implicate KT and I think that more likely than not, it would help solve the gamestate down the line. If revealing stuff doesn't effect the game much at all, then it may force scum into lying more. However, given the mod gave a warning about revealing your answers, I don't blame you for being cautious.

But do you get where I'm coming from?


If revealing turns out to be bad for town, how does that implicate KainTepes? Either is AI or NAI. You can't decide that after the fact, because scum or town could ask about it. The results don't determine KainTepes alignment, unless you can convince me otherwise right now.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:19 pm
by McMenno
In post 263, Desperado wrote:Faking the PR; no meaningful response to his wagon; no thoughts on dreal responding to his wagon for him.

are you a lyncher on me

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:20 pm
by McMenno
I'm trying tou persecute a false brit here

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:20 pm
by lane0168
In post 242, Narna wrote:
In post 239, KainTepes wrote:
In post 237, Narna wrote:
In post 224, Narna wrote:KT, if you tell me your answer to "if you can drive cars", "do you have a job", and "what's your greatest weakness", I'll give you my preferred alignment for the game.


ok i don't mind,,

"cars" = no,
"job" = no,
"what's your greatest weakness" = i am kain tepes...........

I wanted to be

S C U M


Were you trying to be dramatic? Or did you hope if you put in caps like that people might think you were being jokey and not think you got what you asked for? I'm curious why you wrote it like that

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:32 pm
by drealmerz7
I hate RVS btw and generally try to be as if it isn't happening

you cast a fucking vote, answer for it

"it's RVS" is scumtactics

I fucking hate RVS, and it wasn't even in my head about any votes being RVS, I see votes that I have questions about, I ask
the 2 that caught my interest, both happened to be about mcmenno, that you're trying to make it into something more is really annoying and potentially scummy

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:35 pm
by drealmerz7
[quote="In post 275, lane0168
Also, people can never take it back. Who would want to take it back? That seems like a scum mindset, not answering cause you can't take it back. Why would you want to?

Why would people lie on the questionnaire? Because they hate themselves?

I personally don't see your overwhelming concern at all. You're not satisfied to not answer, but also continue to argue against anyone else doing it. I don't get that.[/quote]
woah misrep all over I can't tell if you're deliberately skewing everything or just totally misunderstand

I'm talking IN GENERAL, when people have information, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, they spill the information when it would have been better not too, and then it is too late

is that really a hard concept to grasp? no, you're just scumiffying everything you can

VOTE: lane

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:04 pm
by Desperado
um

lane is town as shit

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:08 pm
by drealmerz7
um, I disagree, he's not trying to understand, he's writing his own narratives

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:12 pm
by Davsto
In post 285, drealmerz7 wrote:um, I disagree, he's not trying to understand, he's writing his own narratives

Said by the one who said that giving the answers we gave to a questionnaire is pointless because "what if we lied on our questionnaire"?

That's the point reached where you're objecting to something and scrambling for reasons to justify, rather than objecting to something because of those reasons.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:36 pm
by Aristophanes
In post 265, Narna wrote:
In post 264, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 257, Narna wrote:
In post 255, Aristophanes wrote:Ah, classic redacted reasoning.

KT is being aggressive, and I love it!

Are you suggesting KT wouldn't do that? Or are you shading me?
I wasn't intentionally shading if that's how it seemed...

I read 255 as being completely sarcastic.
Oh! No, just the first line :P

It was just a fly by comment about how little that helps us lol

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:57 pm
by drealmerz7
In post 286, Davsto wrote:
In post 285, drealmerz7 wrote:um, I disagree, he's not trying to understand, he's writing his own narratives

Said by the one who said that giving the answers we gave to a questionnaire is pointless because "what if we lied on our questionnaire"?

That's the point reached where you're objecting to something and scrambling for reasons to justify, rather than objecting to something because of those reasons.

misrep or misunderstanding? you decide

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:48 pm
by lane0168
In post 282, drealmerz7 wrote:I hate RVS btw and generally try to be as if it isn't happening

you cast a fucking vote, answer for it

"it's RVS" is scumtactics

I fucking hate RVS, and it wasn't even in my head about any votes being RVS, I see votes that I have questions about, I ask
the 2 that caught my interest, both happened to be about mcmenno, that you're trying to make it into something more is really annoying and potentially scummy


More fallacies. Saying an RVS vote is rvs is not scumtactics. You love that buzzword don't you. That is absurdity. Are you really trying to say rvs is scummy? That if you rvs it's scumtactics? Because if you ask why the vote, and I say rvs, and you call scumtactics, what would a town tactic be? That is literally calling rvs scummy

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:50 pm
by lane0168
In post 283, drealmerz7 wrote:[quote="In post 275, lane0168
Also, people can never take it back. Who would want to take it back? That seems like a scum mindset, not answering cause you can't take it back. Why would you want to?

Why would people lie on the questionnaire? Because they hate themselves?

I personally don't see your overwhelming concern at all. You're not satisfied to not answer, but also continue to argue against anyone else doing it. I don't get that.

woah misrep all over I can't tell if you're deliberately skewing everything or just totally misunderstand

I'm talking IN GENERAL, when people have information, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, they spill the information when it would have been better not too, and then it is too late

is that really a hard concept to grasp? no, you're just scumiffying everything you can

VOTE: lane[/quote]

You didn't answer the questions, AND having information is not the same as answering how you answered the questionnaire. You're hiding behind that and I don't know why

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:53 pm
by lane0168
In post 288, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 286, Davsto wrote:
In post 285, drealmerz7 wrote:um, I disagree, he's not trying to understand, he's writing his own narratives

Said by the one who said that giving the answers we gave to a questionnaire is pointless because "what if we lied on our questionnaire"?

That's the point reached where you're objecting to something and scrambling for reasons to justify, rather than objecting to something because of those reasons.

misrep or misunderstanding? you decide


Which part is the misrepresentation exactly?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:06 pm
by KainTepes
In post 275, lane0168 wrote:You're not satisfied to not answer, but also continue to argue against anyone else doing it. I don't get that.


EXACTLY,, this is so weird,, and makes me WONDER..................

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:07 pm
by KainTepes
In post 290, lane0168 wrote:
In post 283, drealmerz7 wrote:[quote="In post 275, lane0168
Also, people can never take it back. Who would want to take it back? That seems like a scum mindset, not answering cause you can't take it back. Why would you want to?

Why would people lie on the questionnaire? Because they hate themselves?

I personally don't see your overwhelming concern at all. You're not satisfied to not answer, but also continue to argue against anyone else doing it. I don't get that.

woah misrep all over I can't tell if you're deliberately skewing everything or just totally misunderstand

I'm talking IN GENERAL, when people have information, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, they spill the information when it would have been better not too, and then it is too late

is that really a hard concept to grasp? no, you're just scumiffying everything you can

VOTE: lane


You didn't answer the questions, AND having information is not the same as answering how you answered the questionnaire. You're hiding behind that and I don't know why[/quote]

why did you VOTE YOURSELF,,

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:08 am
by xyzzy
"do you think anyone would notice if I just used the same flavor for two votecounts in a row?" asked the omnipotent sky voice. "I'm not feeling up to putting in effort right now."

votecount 1.043 players voting for drealmerz7 (KainTepes, Davsto, Aristophanes)
2 players voting for McMenno (Desperado, lane0168)
2 players voting for Davsto (McMenno, SnarkySnowman)
2 players voting for lane0168 (Narna, Drealmerz7)
1 player voting for Desperado (É€efiend)
1 player voting for KainTepes (Secret Agent Jin)

2 players not voting (Gamma Emerald, FrankJaeger)

with 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch

the day will end in 3 days, 2 hours, 49 minutes


mod notes: Secret Agent Jin is V/LA until January 16. Gamma Emerald and Secret Agent Jin have been prodded. the vote in post 290 appears to be the result of a quote tag error, so I've disregarded it.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:10 am
by Secret Agent Jin
I have received a prod. I am V/LA visiting my daughter until the 16th, i will read the game when i wake up tomorrow.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:08 am
by lane0168
In post 293, KainTepes wrote:
In post 290, lane0168 wrote:
In post 283, drealmerz7 wrote:[quote="In post 275, lane0168
Also, people can never take it back. Who would want to take it back? That seems like a scum mindset, not answering cause you can't take it back. Why would you want to?

Why would people lie on the questionnaire? Because they hate themselves?

I personally don't see your overwhelming concern at all. You're not satisfied to not answer, but also continue to argue against anyone else doing it. I don't get that.

woah misrep all over I can't tell if you're deliberately skewing everything or just totally misunderstand

I'm talking IN GENERAL, when people have information, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, they spill the information when it would have been better not too, and then it is too late

is that really a hard concept to grasp? no, you're just scumiffying everything you can

VOTE: lane


You didn't answer the questions, AND having information is not the same as answering how you answered the questionnaire. You're hiding behind that and I don't know why

why did you VOTE YOURSELF,,


Because dreal fucked up the quote tags

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:15 am
by drealmerz7
it was totally a ploy to try and get him to vote himself too

it worked, but then the mod didn't allow

so disappointed

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:18 am
by drealmerz7
that's a joke btw

and I'm not responding to all of that shit because it's a distraction and I think my position is clear and I'm tired of it being jerked around and painted scum because I did what I thought was good for the town - I'm clearly not holding anyone's fingers from typing whatever the fuck they want about their answers, don't act like I am

go ahead, answer KainTepes - if you think my caution is scum-motivated, you can just ignore me and answer KT and get on to solving the game that way if that's what you think it is going to do

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:19 am
by Aristophanes
@xyzzy,
I noticed :P