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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:53 pm

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In post 22, mastina wrote:Hey.
VOTE: Nachomamma8.
Dead serious here.
I'm entering in a 1v1 with Nacho.

Like. If he flips town POWER lynch me here.

I was informed that role assignment wasn't random this game.
Pine knows me to be a stellar scum player and not quite as strong a town player, yet I wasn't one of his picks for the scumteam.
But unless I massively misunderstood the game's nature: Pine did in fact get a choice in at least ONE scumbuddy, if not all three. (Something about a draft order.)
He didn't select me.

I refuse to believe he allowed both me and Nacho to be town.
So lynch me, lynch Nacho, doesn't matter who you lynch first but Nacho is scum.
Guaranteed.
Fuck these mind games already
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:54 pm

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Like.
I realize this playerlist is mostly made up of newer players.
People with joindates in the, what, 2015-2016 range? Mostly like that.
You guys don't understand the history Pine, Nacho, and I have together as players. We were playing games together before you were in your mafia parents' wombs. Granddaddies and grandmommies of the game in comparison to most of you. Fuck, even if you're an alt chances are that you're still too new to remember us in our prime. The 2011-2013 range in particular was Pine's first prime. (He left and came back two or three times.)

Pine was my original rival in games, presumably the reason why I didn't actually draw scum. (Which I'm taking as a huge fucking slight against me because he knows how much I would have wanted to be his scumbuddy here.) We fought endless times in games. He, along with Nacho, was one of my first friends upon his return to the site, in spite of him consistently creaming me in games where he drew mafia and I drew town. There's dozens of games spanning YEARS of history. Not one or two. Like, more games than y'all have played your entire mafia career on mafiascum, number of games.

Now granted! Pine and I haven't actually played together in years. Or contacted each other much since then. But the point still remains true all the same: if anyone knows who Pine would pick this game, it's me. And I am telling you, 100%. Pine would NEVER let Nacho be town this game. Because while Pine as scum might be able to beat me, beating Nacho? Much harder for him to do.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:56 pm

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I'm actually going to argue the fact that if both of you are steller scums, he'd make sure both are town purely for the fact that he'd know you'd be at each others throats.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:57 pm

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I knew Mastina back when she was still Mastin. Not Mastin2.

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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:59 pm

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Take a step back and realize that Pine can use emotional ties to make it seem impossible that he wouldn't pick either of you if ya'll were that close, ergo, he set up D1 and D2 mislynches in that respect.


Even if it doesn't end up being mislynches, there will be tonnes of noise created by you two arguing.


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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:59 pm

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She used to be.


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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:59 pm

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pine, you're going to be so fucking sorry you didn't pick me to be on your team...sooooo fucking sorry...

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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:59 pm

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I LOVE THE MASTIN STORY AND I READ THAT THREAD. SOOOO GOOD
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:02 pm

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In post 32, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I LOVE THE MASTIN STORY AND I READ THAT THREAD. SOOOO GOOD
Yeah, right?

There Will Be Bloodshed

It's a good read. Mastin, hydra'd with Nacho as Calcifer, bet her entire name and fortune on me being Town because of some extremely effective AtE. Hence Mastin2. It was overall a fun game, and I recently reread it.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:02 pm

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In post 0, camn wrote:Before the game, Pine was given his choice of scumroles. He has DAYTALK as well.
After the playerlist was set.. Pine and I DRAFTED players. He went first, and we traded off until he was full.
Like. That role? Probably a Godfather. There's alternatives, of course, like a standard Roleblocker. But Pine is an older player. His ideas of what kind of roles are used in the site meta are years out of date. I know he likes Godfathers because I know him as a person and I swear to god his choice was either a Godfather (most likely) or a roleblocker (less likely but still possible).

Roles we now know to be commonplace like ascetic and ninja weren't used much in his heyday, so they wouldn't have been his pick.

And I tell you right here and right now. If Pine also got to choose which member of his scumteam got what role, he'd choose Nacho for the power role especially if it was the godfather. So I'm telling you. He chose Nacho as his first pick. From there, I'm not as certain. I know he didn't pick me even though a Nacho-mastina scumteam would have dominated.

But I sure as fuck wasn't drafted by camn. camn has absolutely NO reason to draft me as a player. As far as I can remember, we've never actually played together. I can see Nacho as being drafted by camn, sure...but that would require Nacho to have not been Pine's first pick on the draft, when he absolutely WOULD have been.
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Also I'm just going to lay it out there, as soon as ya'll say you're not with Pine, I'm just looking at it like distancing. It doesn't have to be announced that you're not on Pine's team, if town it's self-evident.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:03 pm

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In post 31, drealmerz7 wrote:pine, you're going to be so fucking sorry you didn't pick me to be on your team...sooooo fucking sorry...

mastina, fate, pisskop, pine - calling it now
Blast! Damn! You got me!

*forfeit*
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:05 pm

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I think he's got a strongman tbh.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:07 pm

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Hey Pine, can you do me a flavor?
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:07 pm

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Anything you want, bb.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:08 pm

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I want a MyLo/LyLo rematch.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:10 pm

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Well, you'll have to mislynch all these schmucks for me in order to get there, mmkay?
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:12 pm

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In post 30, Pine wrote:She used to be.
This comment was cruel and unnecessary, and I wish it stricken from the record.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:12 pm

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In post 36, Pine wrote: *forfeit*
I thought so...

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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:13 pm

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In post 42, Pine wrote:
In post 30, Pine wrote:She used to be.
This comment was cruel and unnecessary, and I wish it stricken from the record.
you mean you outted a buddy and wish you could take it back
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:14 pm

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You may certainly try. I make no promises about not beating you about the head with large words.

PEdit: No, I made a disparaging comment about a friend, and I wish I hadn't. It's not game-related, that was just an unnecessary cruelty, and I regret it.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:14 pm

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In post 41, Pine wrote:Well, you'll have to mislynch all these schmucks for me in order to get there, mmkay?
Damn..that's actually a really bad idea.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:18 pm

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oh it was gender-transition related, I understand now...
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:18 pm

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In post 0, camn wrote:01.
Secret Agent Jin

02. BTD6_MAKER
03.
TheRealGin-N-Tonic

04. Nachomamma8
05. Fate
06. drealmerz7
07.
Monokuma
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08. mastina
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Aeronaut

10. Prism
11. SirCakez
12. Vaxkiller
13. pisskop
So in the last three months, Pine has played with: drealmerz, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Secret Agent Jin, drealmerz/Secret Agent Jin again, drealmerz a third time, and Aeronaut.
I only did a quick search, so let me know if I missed any. (Because this is a really fucking huge thing: missing any is problematic towards analysis.)

Knowing this, I can say: pisskop, SirCakez, Prism, and BTD6_maker are all basically conftown. They haven't played with Pine recently as far as I know, and they're too young to have played with Pine in his glory days.

Now, I just realized Fate is a player in this game. I think that Fate is a player both Pine and camn would bid on because Fate is literally the god of mafiascum in how he destroys whichever alignment is in opposition to him. He's basically a really good candidate for the GOAT thread in that he dominates as scum and decimates scum as town. camn knows this, and Pine knows this, so both had reason to go for him.

I realize that this somewhat-weakens my Nacho-is-scum stance, because it comes to who Pine bid on first. I can guarantee you: because I wasn't Pine's first bid, Pine's first bit absolutely MUST have been one of Nacho/Fate. I still think Nacho.

So! Let's work from there.
Nacho/Fate has one scum and one town in there.
That leaves two scum in:
Secret Agent Jin, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Monokuma (Pine might not have played with them, but they're the only hydra in the game and Pine might have drafted them for that reason alone), drealmerz, and Aeronaut.

I'll have to investigate those games to see what alignments those players were and how good they were, but I do have some lead already.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:19 pm

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drealmerz7 wrote:oh it was gender-transition related, I understand now...
Well, not specifically. Let it go, okay?

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