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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i would like to propose we all share the picks we did not get, I got my town pick, here are my picks:
Mafia: Goon(of an arbitrary faction) post 2180
Free: 10,000, post 10000
Mod Discretion: Alien Vote Donator, post 2367
I used a randomizer to choose roles so my town role may or may not be garbage tooretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i think it goes without saying, using this is a really dumb idea unless you are an unjesterIn post 5, TemporalLich wrote:Players may sacrifice themselves to the Guardian Deity of Cops during the night. Everyone has gained the Sacrifice global ability.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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well you.. didn't have to claim but towny ig LOL
Judging by how OP some of those roles are something tells me theres a decent chance you got vanillized (don't answer this!)
and inb4 someone asks, getting people's picks for what they didnt choose has a purpose, I'll explain later but revealing now kinda instructs mafia how to treat thisretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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claim all the roles* is what i meant to sayretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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read the whole post before you click the reply buttonIn post 16, DragonEater70 wrote:
Why would you pick goon?In post 8, DkKoba wrote: i would like to propose we all share the picks we did not get, I got my town pick, here are my picks:
Mafia: Goon(of an arbitrary faction) post 2180
Free: 10,000, post 10000
Mod Discretion: Alien Vote Donator, post 2367
I used a randomizer to choose roles so my town role may or may not be garbage tooretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i believe this tbhIn post 69, iamveryhappy wrote:
VOTE: itinerantsIn post 64, DragonEater70 wrote: IAVH can you make a semi-serious vote on someone?
OMGUS
my other picks were 16y/o
nd the flying pumpkin that shoots laser beams out of its assretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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ok cool guillo is townIn post 110, Guillotina wrote:
Koba is scumIn post 13, DkKoba wrote: well you.. didn't have to claim but towny ig LOL
Judging by how OP some of those roles are something tells me theres a decent chance you got vanillized (don't answer this!)
and inb4 someone asks, getting people's picks for what they didnt choose has a purpose, I'll explain later but revealing now kinda instructs mafia how to treat thisretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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this on the other hand VOTE: Dragoneater70 (the whole entrance feels stiff regardless)
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Oh c'mon guillo we have both played enough times that we know this actually *does* happen from time to time, it just isn't often.In post 115, Guillotina wrote:
No way koba believes the other player actually claimed their town role in rvs.In post 113, DragonEater70 wrote:
Elaborate plsIn post 110, Guillotina wrote:
Koba is scumIn post 13, DkKoba wrote: well you.. didn't have to claim but towny ig LOL
Judging by how OP some of those roles are something tells me theres a decent chance you got vanillized (don't answer this!)
and inb4 someone asks, getting people's picks for what they didnt choose has a purpose, I'll explain later but revealing now kinda instructs mafia how to treat thisretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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caught in 4k!In post 139, Not_Mafia wrote: Hi guys
Super serious player here, we need to stop RVS so I can scumhunt, have I mentioned how much I want to scumhunt and how towny I am?retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i would shoot meg and DE70 so far everyone else I either havent really cared enough to acknowledge mentally or is varying levels of townyish
NM actually having a post that implies genuinely good analysis this soon may be bad prospects for his alignment but I am going to show miltank solidarity and keep the funny cow aroundretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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I also concur with this btw ^ I personally am also someone who blows past RVS and would not scumread someone for thatIn post 125, Guillotina wrote:
That is not what i scum read them for.In post 124, BlueSnakelet wrote: As far as I can tell, Dragon absolutely hates the RVS. He tries to force the game pass it everytime.
In all fairness, he is an expert at doing exactly that, towncreed notwithstanding.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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No I explained that I concur that the reason to scumread you is not because of you pushing out of RVS and explained why I would not use that as a reasonIn post 148, DragonEater70 wrote:
You concur with the scumread on me because I am like you? Or whatIn post 146, DkKoba wrote:
I also concur with this btw ^ I personally am also someone who blows past RVS and would not scumread someone for thatIn post 125, Guillotina wrote:
That is not what i scum read them for.In post 124, BlueSnakelet wrote: As far as I can tell, Dragon absolutely hates the RVS. He tries to force the game pass it everytime.
In all fairness, he is an expert at doing exactly that, towncreed notwithstanding.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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if you are town: this is like >rand town guillo and cases that seem illogical to most people are common for him as town, I have played on and off in several games with guillo since 2020/2021In post 155, DragonEater70 wrote: Honestly this entire scumcase by Guillotina is a perfect scumcase against them because it shows how forced their reads are. 0/10 scumcase
VOTE: Guilo
I also FoS Koba for thinking Guilo is town here despite Guillo's extremely shady reasoning.
You can call this omgus if you want but neither of their reads make any freaking sense and are like 100% scum motivated.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Be nice theyre new ):In post 175, Guillotina wrote:
Yah townreading everyone during rvs lol.In post 173, DragonEater70 wrote: One last post before I go to sleep:
I notice some people SR me for "not scumhunting even though I want people to scumhunt". Which is fair. But I like always focus on townreads early and on scumreads later, it's much easier for me this way. I think most of you who know me would know this is true but I can link various games that demonstrate this if needed. But anyway the point was thatI was literally townreading everyoneso it didn't make any sense to scumhunt at that point.
Pray to gods you continue to rand scum to practice because you need it.
Sorry for your randretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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this is because it is a bit of a classical tell of pushing people to create content for you you can react to as scum rather than being able to generate that content yourself naturally as town.In post 173, DragonEater70 wrote: One last post before I go to sleep:
I notice some people SR me for "not scumhunting even though I want people to scumhunt". Which is fair. But I like always focus on townreads early and on scumreads later, it's much easier for me this way. I think most of you who know me would know this is true but I can link various games that demonstrate this if needed. But anyway the point was that I was literally townreading everyone so it didn't make any sense to scumhunt at that point.
it is a difference i personally have exhibited when scum when I'm not paying attention in gamestarts and unluckily for you there are multiple people aware of this kind of tell that is somewhat consistent for finding scum early, and is an excellent starting point.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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I don't want to silently just ignore your slot but wanted to just point out that I am not pushing to interact with your slot as I might normally want to due to the last time we played being so explosive and wanting to distance a little and be more informed and let you do your own thing rather than trying to poke someone early who blends surface level tells regardless of alignment anyways.In post 177, Flavor Leaf wrote: Long time no see, ZZZX, it’s me, Boonskiies.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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people who rand dayvig claim day 2 challenge [failed]In post 179, Flavor Leaf wrote: Would anyone care if I day vigged Dkkoba for the lols?
I'd be fairly upset but I don't have any agency and I know you as town from our 1 sample together as town/town scumread me naturally so lol
I have historically been dayvigged everytime on day 1 whenever there is a dayvig because the hero shooter always rands it so why change thingsretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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I refuse to claim, it isnt going to help you discern your alignment and if youre a scum dayvig it just gives you info.In post 184, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Yeah, why change thingsIn post 183, DkKoba wrote:
people who rand dayvig claim day 2 challenge [failed]In post 179, we"Flavor Leaf" wrote: Would anyone care if I day vigged Dkkoba for the lols?
I'd be fairly upset but I don't have any agency and I know you as town from our 1 sample together as town/town scumread me naturally so lol
I have historically been dayvigged everytime on day 1 whenever there is a dayvig because the hero shooter always rands it so why change things
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I will be day vigging on Day 1 here. First time I am able to do so, so you all, bow down to the Almighty Leaf and taste the flavor
You show yourself to be town first and then we can take instruction from you.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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can't fucking play a game without having to suffer Sisyphus syndromeretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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I'm not going to claim anything specific but I believe I have an above average power role that would be like a 5/10 on the GIM scale, maybe a 7/10 for roles that are likely not to be veto'd for this game.
10/10 being something that is guaranteed to generate valueretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Well the context I added earlier its not my first time being threatened with a dayvig on day 1 in a game and being shot so its more tiring than frustrating at this point.In post 192, Flavor Leaf wrote: Im just trolling you Kkoba
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Subject: Micro 1007: Chess Mafia Game Over!In post 1291, RadiantCowbells wrote: In an explosion of cosmic proportions, Toogeloo obliterates DkKoba!
DkKoba wasXrCyclone.
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Toogeloo wasGamma Ray Burst.
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Ordinarily protocol is to reset the votecount, but I will not bother since no one is close to any lim thresholds.
In post 502, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Game Event:
DKKoba has been shot
DKKoba was a White Pawn
the vote count and deadline have beenresetretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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town lost both games, the anything upick was lost because they trusted the 1 person who I said was just being scummy with their role and it was a "trust me" mechanic that won if enough dead players "prayed" to it.In post 201, Flavor Leaf wrote: Question: did town win or lose those games?retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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why do you implicitly oppose a dragoneater vig?In post 202, Itinerants wrote: I'm not AGAINST a Koba vig, but I'd rather Guillotina or iamveryhangry for the time being.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i believe in that vigs should not be used until an elimination and a round of night actions has been taken but like if i was forced to vig rn I would want to resolve dragoneater bc his flip gives the most info and is a likely candidate for a red flip as well
Guillo gives almost nothing, he is just weird and has a fairly unique and eccentric playstyle, while it will prevent him from flaunting a bunch of FPS claim stuff in thread, he is generally experienced enough to be >rand useful if town, even if he confidently states some crazy theories often.
iavh I think GTH flips red but is also a really bad shot as it removes the info he can provide to spew/solving around his slot. Oh he died. Oh he was non-town. Oh well. (Like think of the theory of how day 1 scum flips lead to scum wins more often, it has to do with that they have not spewed more info on who is town/scum from their actions yet as much as if they died on day 2)
Granted yes, GIM it is 100% first priority to kill any non-town ASAP as splits are unknown and miskilling cannot be afforded etc. so not the worst shot in the context of the setup, just longterm can be harmful.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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what do u think of dragoneater here?In post 209, patchwork wrote:In post 15, DragonEater70 wrote:Scumread: patchwork
For not posting within a millisecond of the game starting.
Everyone knows this is a scumtell for Patch.retired
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i guess I worded that poorly, what alignment would you say dragoneater is based on his overall entrance in the game rather than just that post.In post 211, patchwork wrote:
i'm currently reading pg 2 but i think his scumread on me is a jokeIn post 210, DkKoba wrote:
what do u think of dragoneater here?In post 209, patchwork wrote:In post 15, DragonEater70 wrote:Scumread: patchwork
For not posting within a millisecond of the game starting.
Everyone knows this is a scumtell for Patch.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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oh i thought rh9 claiming all 4 roles instead of the 3 unused was towny not the claim nor was I even aware that rh9 fullclaimed alreadyretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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role madness meta has causal trueclaiming as >>>rand townretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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dragon is kinda like the vibe of wanting to appear like theyre being towny and scumhunting while coming off as having an agenda of like instigation in a way and wanting to keep hands clean in a way? Its hard to like explain in words until like they show the behavior I feel theyre projected to show if they are scum. I tend to kinda see ppl as like archaetypal play and if they do something it can strongly imply a trend towards something else that confirms alignment etc.
(I am a super tryhard at this game and have thought much about mafia theory and played many many games lol)retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i didnt want to say it but I kinda read patchwork as 3p non-town lol
they are exhibiting pro town posting and trying to blend rather than anti town 3p gaming so im not so interested in them atmretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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guillo, to help explain what I believe they mean, its more that I claimed something verifiable and they are trusting I didn't straight up lie about something that can be checked/proven completely wrong.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
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(also patchwork has already shown consistency in going the "imma commit to this read for now and fix it later if need be" route while acknowledging potential doubts in that)
maybe im biased bc I see elements of how I approach the game in their posting and know its the type of thing that gets scumread naturally even when town so I'd rather try to trim out any assertions of their alignment being groupscum or not based on things I see as NAI lmaoretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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well this kinda clears guillo of being a non-mafia groupscum faction if we have anyIn post 235, Guillotina wrote: Yah i believe Patchwork is the second scum
ofc maybe im the only crazy one who willingly chose alien in one of my slotsretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Itinerants
ZZZX
Guillotina
patchwork
camelCasedSnivy
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Not_Mafia
BlueSnakelet
Nono
Cook
iamveryhappy
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slackers(non posters):
Arko
Invisibility
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will convert to doing town vs non town lists later onretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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FWIW guillo has a difficult time containing TMI in games so them being scum does not exclude DE from being their partner.In post 257, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, at this point, i would think they’re town because you think they’re scum.
Level of where I think your reads are at
have u played with guillo before? He is definitely like a distinct flavor of player (as is obvious from his playstyle exhibited so far) and gets scumread often by people who have not played with him for things that aren't alignment indicative for him.
(Also I think its uhhh bad for thread health for yall to get into a 1v1 here because you 2 are both loud, and when confident, fairly stubborn, and well as scum thats good, but not good for town)retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i was lowkey waiting for this bc I knew guillo would pick up on signs of fake claims as he is himself a chronic fake claimer in setups like theseIn post 266, Guillotina wrote: I lost interest is your claim, it is obviously not true.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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(I too mostly read FL's claim as fake although I do think there is heavy plausibility for him to have chosen a vig role)retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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probably a 6. He is showing telltale signs of the tricks he uses when town to get reads, but he has fooled me in the past doing this kind of stuff performatively.In post 274, Itinerants wrote: Koba, scale of one to ten how confident are you on this Guillotina Town read?retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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very surprising since you yelled at me in both and asked me not to sign up to play in your future games, 1 as town because we were disagreeing on reads and I doubled down on my townreads of your scumreads(i ended up right that time ) the other was me fighting you on a read in the multiball game but you were doing an act as scum there.In post 273, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 265, DkKoba wrote:
FWIW guillo has a difficult time containing TMI in games so them being scum does not exclude DE from being their partner.In post 257, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, at this point, i would think they’re town because you think they’re scum.
Level of where I think your reads are at
have u played with guillo before? He is definitely like a distinct flavor of player (as is obvious from his playstyle exhibited so far) and gets scumread often by people who have not played with him for things that aren't alignment indicative for him.
(Also I think its uhhh bad for thread health for yall to get into a 1v1 here because you 2 are both loud, and when confident, fairly stubborn, and well as scum thats good, but not good for town)
I barely remember the games I played with you beforeretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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guillo you are definitely well known among the mafia community because of how much you play/mod lolIn post 290, Guillotina wrote:
Am i a well know player? Since when? I havent played here since 2021.In post 275, patchwork wrote:
because it's a meta read and i don't think someone would be ballsy/stupid enough to lie about meta when you're obviously a well-known playerIn post 232, Guillotina wrote: Why are you willing to trust Koba's read on me if you are not completely sure about Koba?retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i feel like half of the early game for me is going to be explaining idiosyncrasies of everyone to eachother because im like the only one here that has played with nearly all of youretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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tbh i kind assumed patch is someone who found the site from off site bc of their posting seemed mafia experienced.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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after being on another mafia site* i am bad at working lolretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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Subject: Newbie 2113 - Shea it ain't So! | Game Over!
i did researchIn post 30, patchwork wrote: ok just gonna post some questions so we can get some knowledge about the players
1 - pronouns? (some people don't have them listed)
2 - prior experience with mafia? (including derivatives of mafia)
3 - are you gay?
1 - they/them
2 - played on discord and did mafia.gg during the pandemic, mostly fell out of mafia post-2021. decently experienced though, i know most of the terms.
3 - yes
regardless i think the point is a little inconsistent in practice and needs more evidence, but is a genuine point against their favor.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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In post 301, patchwork wrote:
i think it can be inferenced by how literally everyone seems to know you (and also how i saw your name all over the mafiascum wiki)In post 290, Guillotina wrote:
Am i a well know player? Since when? I havent played here since 2021.In post 275, patchwork wrote:
because it's a meta read and i don't think someone would be ballsy/stupid enough to lie about meta when you're obviously a well-known playerIn post 232, Guillotina wrote: Why are you willing to trust Koba's read on me if you are not completely sure about Koba?
and this is the scenario where it is inconsistent bc yea this is wholly plausible lolIn post 302, patchwork wrote: iinferred or whatever idcretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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theme song of the game so farretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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i meant that guillo's point is generally accurate in identifying TMI except in cases where someone did what you are claiming you did - I'm pretty obstinate about considering any and all scenarios that may be possible to not be complacent with a read just because its "likely".In post 308, patchwork wrote:
what does this mean im comfusedIn post 304, DkKoba wrote:In post 301, patchwork wrote:
i think it can be inferenced by how literally everyone seems to know you (and also how i saw your name all over the mafiascum wiki)In post 290, Guillotina wrote:
Am i a well know player? Since when? I havent played here since 2021.In post 275, patchwork wrote:
because it's a meta read and i don't think someone would be ballsy/stupid enough to lie about meta when you're obviously a well-known playerIn post 232, Guillotina wrote: Why are you willing to trust Koba's read on me if you are not completely sure about Koba?
and this is the scenario where it is inconsistent bc yea this is wholly plausible lolIn post 302, patchwork wrote: iinferred or whatever idc
like I mentioned earlier, am a massive mafia tryhard and have over time applied mistakes i have made in games and am significantly more cautious about truly committing to reads. (my external and internal confidence in reads is different often, I will not show my hand fully often in this regard unless I believe I am going to die potentially etc. but generally as a rule my external confidence at EoD is often aligned with my internal confidence, including theoretical worlds I may not currently be pushing)retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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like I'm sure we can all think of a time where you or someone in a game was uber confident of a person "scumtelling" on something they thought was a slam dunk and then they were hilariously wrong because they used that as a shortcut to make the read and shutting themselves out of other explainationsretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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uninformed post tbhIn post 314, patchwork wrote: OH i didn't know guillo was making an argumentretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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(uninformed = not part of groupscum faction, since "towny" would not apply as 3p still is uninformed but not town etc.)retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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I would say your name is getting out there but thats only bc you only showed up like last yearIn post 313, Itinerants wrote:
Eh.In post 301, patchwork wrote:
i think it can be inferenced by how literally everyone seems to know you (and also how i saw your name all over the mafiascum wiki)In post 290, Guillotina wrote:
Am i a well know player? Since when? I havent played here since 2021.In post 275, patchwork wrote:
because it's a meta read and i don't think someone would be ballsy/stupid enough to lie about meta when you're obviously a well-known playerIn post 232, Guillotina wrote: Why are you willing to trust Koba's read on me if you are not completely sure about Koba?
Guillo's only on the DoAR page.
I'm on more wiki pages and I'm scarcely well-known.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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The point is moot to me at this point but mostly its that you never played with them and made the claim they were well known without indication of how you might know them bc it requires being in certain communities (of those being major ones like MS, MU, etc.) and thus the theory is that you learn that info from being told by a scum partner.In post 320, patchwork wrote: wait so how is me knowing guillo tmi again???
Since you gave a fairly plausible scenario for you to make that claim without TMI it doesn't matter to me personally atp and talking more about it is circular.retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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god fucking damn it im getting n1dretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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rh9 is definitely a spec chat fiendretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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I should make some mafia guides soon since I think a lot of guides out there are bad and push people to use shortcuts in play like trying to say 1 tell is universal for everyoneIn post 333, patchwork wrote:yeah i think so
ive also seen koba on the wiki, someone named pookie bear or something (), and mastina (because they made many guides)
executive dysfunction do be a bitch thoretired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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mastin is their username b4 they came out as trans iirc. I was not around for that but should use mastina for them.In post 336, patchwork wrote:
so apparently their username is mastin and not mastina huhIn post 333, patchwork wrote:yeah i think so
ive also seen koba on the wiki, someone named pookie bear or something (), and mastina (because they made many guides)retired
"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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