JOAT uPick | FIN!

[Cabd]

I i left anyone out of the nicknames it's because i hate you and therefore personally wish to deprive you of a gimmicky name. Or, you know, I was replying directly to you, brooksanddunn.

[Cabd]

Well I don't really mind if we want to try to win with MariaR. Or if we don't. There's no reason too and she might be screwing us over. If we do decide to do it I'd prefer if we planned things out. If she can get everyone paired before final 3/4 with one of drew/laplacian already dead that would be ideal.

I am at the very least happy to plan out the option and see what sort of cushioning it affords us. If she believes that it's a ninja, then we eliminate Laplacian today 100% of the time, right? That techncially accordingly doesn't endgame her, but also gets us confirmation of that fact, maybe?

I'll let bear and doggo and the TF2 medicboy and HolySickTurtle think about it too. If we ARE going to work with Maria, it needs to be a unanimous decision. And I can HEAR Titus yelling at me from meowhalla.

You are stealing my joke about Titus and third party's.

If Maria is telling the truth I am not surprised at all, but I am kinda with Pooky and am just thinking she is lying scum.

Though, wouldn't be against a Lap lim as well.

Lovingly regifted. Also Titus has met me in person and would wack me over the head irl so I've got that in my corner of ownership.

[Cabd]

(and after the alt shenanigans she is likely fully justified in getting a running start on the first slap)

[Cabd]

I almost feel like this is something a jester would make up because I have to think if she's mafia she could make up something more believable than this lol

Or perhaps a scum beloved princess?

[Cabd]

Why would I as scum not just kill Drew at night if he had an out on me.

Come on now everyone!

But like that applies to everyone left? Why shoot me over drew as anyone? Unless Drew is shooting obv.

[Cabd]

Maria, what number did you get for your living touch count at day start?

[Cabd]

Cool.

VOTE: Mariar

It would be three if everything was truthful in your claims, because of the bus drive, you should have gotten HST, Cabd, and Dunn all as living visits.

I'll miss you, Lady the 2nd.

[Cabd]

Actually.

UNVOTE:

Maria, remind me again the EXACT nuances of your global lightning rod?

I think I may know what actually happened N1 with Ircher's shit getting thru.

[Cabd]

Yes AND there's some other stuff here.

1: What if the "global lightning rod" was a "all actions directed at mafia go onto the townie of my choice instead" action? It would make every single "weird' result from the chart make sense all of a sudden. (Fun fact this means the triple parity cop went off and got Bell-Drew-Lemon as all town aligned)

2: I'm supposed to buy in a trillion fucking years that Lady ffery woke up and decided to STOP being cool and gave a third party a generic-ass flavor instead of oh I dunno, like, Che Guevara or something?

3: Also, that ffery designed a third party who is functionally forced to guess the endgame composition of a role madness game as early as day one to have any shot at actually winning?

4: AND that said third party like, seeing three dead scum, didn't use the mafia-hunting role they supposedly have to be able to work out their path to endgame?

5: AND AND said third party chose the confirmed town Joyboy as a person who would be alive in their endgame when deciding on night two actions?

[Cabd]

Actually.

UNVOTE:

Maria, remind me again the EXACT nuances of your global lightning rod?

I think I may know what actually happened N1 with Ircher's shit getting thru.

Pick X all actions go on X. it really isn't that complicated an action.

So uh, square that with Ircher's town flip and N1 action.

[Cabd]

What actions do you have left?

[Cabd]

like either shes mafia and lying about the count being 2 or laplacian is lying about the bus drive

The thing is...

if she is legit a third party exactly as claimed

AND

Lap is a mafia baddie.

The numbers don't work for a mutual town-3P win anyways given her count and the ones left alive because of the loverize.

Math it out yourself.

[Cabd]

Theory: Maria has an ability to moves all actions targeted mafia towards the town of her choice (Bell)

Suddenly literally every observed and claimed result makes sense. The actions targeting town didn't get redirected, the actions targeting ANY member of the mafia all went to Bell.

[Cabd]

Okay Mr. Bellend. Your dance game is over, get your ass in here and work, mutt!

[Cabd]

That wasn't even a painful loss BTW. Glad to see some old faces get a hard fought town victory. Except Bell. Bell is a meanie face and I will bully him the rest of this game phase.

[Cabd]

Because everyone in this game is determined to play with half their ass on the scum-side button.

Thoughts on the chart, bear?

[Cabd]

Why are you so unmotivated to work this game, Bell?

[Cabd]

Why would we kill pooky here though?

[Cabd]

Because if it is Lap or Drew I just mark 1 and we exe the other, no?

I mean that gives YOU a win but not me so nahface.

[Cabd]

You'd have to guess the night kill AND be right. Sorry!

[Cabd]

But seriously I think unfortunately we cannot win with a third party maria even if she is telling the truth.


Somebody not named Maria plot out a way that I am wrong?

[Cabd]

Lap....

The second she wins, she EXITS the game in victory....

In your :kingmaker" scenarios, she exists and then it's 1-1 left and mafia instantly endgames.

Sorry Maria, had you come clean about all this sooner it would have played out differently, but between the drew results, and everything else, it kinda has to be you today then lap tomorrow if you flip non-killing third party.

[Cabd]

Let's get this show on the road, I'm ready to die.

VOTE: AAAAAAAAHVAAAAAAAAAAAAE MAAAAARRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

[Cabd]

Maria flips mafia, game is probably over.

Maria flips 3P non killing---->final mafia is laplacian given the results from drew, OR it's a fakeclaim by drew that would have been extremely ballsy.


Either way not my problem likely.

[Cabd]

Only if you wax poetic for at least ten posts about how smug your usage of your role is to really rub it into faces.

[Cabd]

You need to hammer such that the lady mod can get page top so keep yapping

[Cabd]

I was dumb and submitted my double neoghborizer with built in paranoia and a shutdown mechanic because I thought it wouldn't get thru without it. Then I saw what shit you lot all got.

[Cabd]

This is the part where I note that wasn't hammer anyways because it takes five. But it was funny to watch.

[Cabd]

Get snark'd nerd.

[Cabd]

This is where the bear comes in and steals all of your hopes and dreams mercilessly

[Cabd]

I mean if she wants to give a rousing guillotine speech before putting her head on the block that's cool too. But the bear might get it first.

[Cabd]

Funniest possible outcome is gif accidentally hammers while barely conscious.

[Cabd]

Yes? He publicly owned that alt a long time ago.

[Cabd]

He outed it last cabal cicada cycle, about four years ago.

So very out of date.

[Cabd]

Seeing an old face like HST was what motivated me mainly to inning here, i usually dont take 2 games at the same time and figured i was gonna die soon on the other... ha... yeah right, well both are over now anyway.

Hi Sakura! I missed you too.

[Cabd]

Actually did anyone here get me as lto?

[Cabd]

I had hoped for a third party right up until the flavor. It was uh. Not anything like what Ffery would do.

She is explicitly known for allowing town siding third parties but they'd have their own unique flavor and a different set of conditions.

[Cabd]

Also i think MariaR saying she targeted Joyboy on N2 was iffy, like, why would she target the most likely NK after we were discussing it at day end.
If she was a legit 3P she clearly wasnt trying to win with that move.

Right yep. Pointed that out. But she had to try something after the pseudo track.

[Cabd]

Also props to HST and Cabd being the only ones that figured out what MariaR's Lightning Rod did and (According to the mod at least) not even MariaR figured out herself.
(I more or less figured out her Lightning rod was sus the moment Light ganski flipped, but we got spoiled afterwards anyway)

Microsoft Excel is towns biggest power role.

[Cabd]

Yeah it was a day one ability cop of joy. For sure.

[Cabd]

I read the dead thread. The mech this game was really weird with the way different tiers of the same type of action resolved around NAR and it's a lot easier to see form outside of fog of war.

But in the end the spreadsheet proved to be the best decision ever.

[Cabd]

Actually did anyone here get me as lto?

I did not. I actually had you townlocked as LTO like half way through day 1, and I might have been more hesitant if I knew who you were.

I want to say that I might have spotted you for your day 2 posts, which imo were a lot closer to your normal posts, but I did not read day 2 until after you repped into your main, so there was a curse of knowledge, so hard to say confidently.

This is an argument in favor of anon games but eh. I think this game goes extremely differently on main from the getgo

[Cabd]

Btw, mod meta tip.


Third party claims in Ffery games are best done with flavor that is unique from the main game, but complimentary. Additionally the role will be able to town side and also will have a win condition that rewards consistently good play, not good luck.

Morph had a pretty shitty 3p draw once and we have had endless conversations over the years on what is "fair" to expect out of a third party player in a vacuum.

[Cabd]

I mean didn't the harmony wagon flip sorta bin me before the light guilty anyways?

[Cabd]

Reading through day 1, I thought your case on Bell in 761 was bad, but bad in a way that mafia would be very very unlikely to fabricate.

So that made you town with a bad case, and I was very confident in this read.

And while I stand by that case being one that Most Scum would not make, I could see you in particular making it. But that was moot. You were town locked for the bell case -> town locked for the light guilty, with no time for me to be paranoid about you being you lol.

Lemme tell you a secret

at least a third of me wanted to case Bell just for the novelty of getting to do so

[Cabd]

Titus died for lights sins.

[Cabd]

MariaR kills Cabd

GENT THE SIXTH LEAVES THE DANCE

[Cabd]

its difficult to hydra for first time together as scum tbh
especially if ur partner wants u both to be on same wavelength

Fire now that both games are over I wanna check that your butt is okay from falling out of your chair my dude.

[Cabd]

I don’t get it! I don’t get the joke!

When I altslipped in dance game he laughed so hard he fell out of his chair.

[Cabd]

I should have given the Union Busters some more power, including at least one ninja shot.

Given the amount of redirection bullshit, I honestly expected them to have a factional "choose one of your own not making the NK, they are immune to any sort of redirection BS" sort of thing.

[Cabd]

Yeah I enjoyed literally this entire player list. Especially getting to elbow alisae about the Joyboy alt knowing full well what was going on~