Sabotage Mafia Reloaded GG

Toogeloo · Post Post #5900 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:34 am

In post 5899, beastcharizard wrote:3. Why is it not plausible that Titus was given the role as a fake claim while I actually have the role? Fake claims are used so that mafia can claim and not get lynched.

Because this game isn't bastard.

Toogeloo · Post Post #5901 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:36 am

Meant to quote these as well...

In post 5899, beastcharizard wrote:1. I pick up on crumbs, ever. I actually don't look for crumbs.
2. I didn't crumb because once I find whom ever I am looking for we are both confirmed town.

You have a role where you are looking for someone else with the same role. It's a role that practically requires crumbing unless you want to spend the entirety of the game oblivious to each other and rely on sheer luck or mass claims to do the rest.

Antihero · Post Post #5902 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:56 am

well

guess i have to eat shit now

beast is scum

Catbug · Post Post #5903 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:10 am

In post 5863, Antihero wrote:mastin is it my turn to claim yet?

In post 5865, Antihero wrote:i'm so mentally checked out of this game

somebody

pull me up

Stop actively trying to kill my read on you.

Catbug · Post Post #5904 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:14 am

In post 5886, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 5884, Cephrir wrote:> scumclaim

Better lynch cephrir

ilryou

oh hello.... i don't remember you...

In post 5887, Toogeloo wrote:
[tinfoil-hat]
Scum fake claims are already freshly made up for the scum team to pick. Titus picked one and beast accidentally picked the same one without realizing cuz he wasn't paying attention to what Titus claimed
[/tinfoil-hat]

I like this.

Also HAPPY SCUMDAY!

In post 5899, beastcharizard wrote:3. Why is it not plausible that Titus was given the role as a fake claim while I actually have the role? Fake claims are used so that mafia can claim and not get lynched.

mmmm yeah.... mods don't give out fake claims that already exist. That's the point of a fake claim. To avoid claiming something someone else already has.

gotta confer with sthar. will return later.

Antihero · Post Post #5905 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:18 am

oh i know, getting worn out on a 237 page stagnating game

so scum

Catbug · Post Post #5906 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:27 am

In post 5877, beastcharizard wrote:Can someone show me where titus claimed? I didn't see it at all. Did they claim D1 or D2 or what?

In post 5885, beastcharizard wrote:Can you pull up these soft-claims or whatever? I can't find them and since I missed them the first time chances are I am missing them still.

In post 5889, beastcharizard wrote:You think everything I do is scummy. You have tunneled me the whole game.

I would have to be some kind of stupid to miss my scum partners claim.

Catbug · Post Post #5907 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:28 am

In post 5905, Antihero wrote:oh i know, getting worn out on a 237 page stagnating game

so scum

i'm not worn out. and if you'd hydra'd with me for this like we originally planned, neither would you be.

Catbug · Post Post #5908 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:30 am

Claims

Player	Claim	Results
Catbug	N1: No action \| N2: Jailkeep MattP \| N3: Sabocheck Cephrir, Saboclear Anti	N2: Failed \| N3: Ceph has no sabotaged abilities
Sangres	--	--
mastin2	VT/newMuffin, N2: watch self (digi) N3: FN toog	N2: failed \| N3: failed
Marquis	--	--
Vezok	VT	N/A
Antihero	--	--
Snowstorm	Digital Ascetic	N2: Received nondigibroom, N3: Used broom on Desp
BBmolla	--	--
beast	Seeking Mason	N1: 22 \| N2: BBmolla \| N3: Antihero
Aronis/FT	Anti-janitor/Miller	N/A
displaced/TWIE	N1: Digicheck \| N2: Digistop (MattP) \| N3: ?	N1: displaced, Catbug, Sangres, MattP
Cephrir	PGO @non-digi/Visitor	N3: visited toog
Toog	Sweeper Inventor (digi/nondigi saboclear)	N1: Snowstorm (non) \| N2: Catbug \| N3: Marquis (non)
ns	VT	N/A
BRO	N1: Delayed cop (Sangres) \| N2: Vig (pidgey) \| N3: Doc (Sangres)	N1: Sangres town (rec'd D3, N2: pidgey dead (town)

Did I miss anything here?

Remaining to claim

Sangres
Marquis
Antihero
BBmolla

Would like 1) marquis 2) Antihero 3) BBmolla 4) Sangres

Antihero · Post Post #5909 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:33 am

In post 5907, Catbug wrote:
In post 5905, Antihero wrote:oh i know, getting worn out on a 237 page stagnating game

so scum

i'm not worn out. and if you'd hydra'd with me for this like we originally planned, neither would you be.

...

kick me while i'm down
i'm

just

your

punchingbag

anyway

Catbug · Post Post #5910 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:36 am

you asked for someone to pull you up.

tough love baby. now help me figure this shit out.

i really want to lynch the following people:
marquis, mastin, ns

maybe vezok
maybe snowstorm
maybe beast

Catbug · Post Post #5911 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:06 am

TWIE

I don't have your N3 action. Did you claim it? I don't remember.

TheWayItEnds · Post Post #5912 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:13 am

My slot didnt take one.

I think it was vacant?

notscience · Post Post #5913 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:28 am

In post 5910, Catbug wrote:ns

Can we do this today then

I don't have the patience to sit here twiddling my thumbs waiting to be ML'd

Toogeloo · Post Post #5914 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:08 am

In post 5910, Catbug wrote:i really want to lynch the following people:

...

maybe beast

wut?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #5915 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:13 am

i dont believe he's THAT stupid

TheWayItEnds · Post Post #5916 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:37 am

In post 5913, notscience wrote:
In post 5910, Catbug wrote:ns

Can we do this today then

I don't have the patience to sit here twiddling my thumbs waiting to be ML'd

You could stop twiddling your thumbs and do something.

In post 5915, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:i dont believe he's THAT stupid

Yeah I was trying to think that until I realized that not only did he match roles, he claimed the same flavor.

mastin2 · Post Post #5917 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:42 am

In post 5884, Cephrir wrote:> scumclaim
Better lynch cephrir

The thought crossed my mind. However, you're forgetting a slight problem. Why would scum willingly scumclaim? Generally, to accomplish something. What would be accomplished by scumclaiming and essentially setting yourself up to be lynched?

I'm sure you can follow that train of thought to its natural conclusion. Protecting someone. Who's there to protect? Yep. My point.

Catbug · Post Post #5918 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:43 am

that

is bad logic.

Catbug · Post Post #5919 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:45 am

although that is ACTUALLY what happened in street racers

mastin2 · Post Post #5920 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:52 am

In post 5918, Catbug wrote:that is bad logic.

No, it's not.

There's only two scenarios.
Beast is town, and Titus somehow knew beast's flavor D1. (There are multiple ways this could have happened. Among them being? Titus claimed the role D1, but didn't claim the flavor until D2, meaning it's possible she didn't know it D1 even though she may have known and/or guessed the role was in the game D1. Needless to say, there are a ton of probable--not just possible, actual probable, likely things that could happen--scenarios where beast is town and Titus knows his role.) In which case, we do

not

lynch beast. The beast wagon is something scum will love to eat up.

Or beast is scum, claiming Titus's flavor. Beast is therefore likely a GOON (same as her), not a mafia power role, and the mafia power roles are elsewhere. In which case, there is a VERY high chance that the claim being made is one that is meant to serve as a distraction. Who would it serve as a distraction from? Oh, yeah. The guy who just lost two or three votes on him, Cephrir. Who most likely is very much a scum power role.

Beast is either town or a sacrificial lamb. I refuse to believe that he is scum and anything other than that.

SnowStorm · Post Post #5921 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:57 am

In post 5915, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:i dont believe he's THAT stupid

Well... he did kill his scum partner in the first night of X-Men...

mastin2 · Post Post #5922 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:58 am

(Really, it's not that hard.
If given the choice between lynching someone who is near-certain scum and has no way of proving their role...
...Compared to someone you simply believe is scum that if NOT scum HAS a way of proving their role...
You lynch the former, not the latter.

If beast is town, he can prove it. So lynching him is a Very Bad Idea.)

mastin2 · Post Post #5923 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:59 am

Keep in mind scum have daychat, in which they likely discussed things.

However much beast may miss in-thread things, is he really going to miss all that scum chatter, too? Because it's a near-certainty that Titus would discuss her roleclaim with them.

SnowStorm · Post Post #5924 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:01 am

In post 5920, mastin2 wrote:
In post 5918, Catbug wrote:that is bad logic.
No, it's not.

There's only two scenarios.
Beast is town, and Titus somehow knew beast's flavor D1. (There are multiple ways this could have happened. Among them being? Titus claimed the role D1, but didn't claim the flavor until D2, meaning it's possible she didn't know it D1 even though she may have known and/or guessed the role was in the game D1. Needless to say, there are a ton of probable--not just possible, actual probable, likely things that could happen--scenarios where beast is town and Titus knows his role.) In which case, we do
not
lynch beast. The beast wagon is something scum will love to eat up.

Or beast is scum, claiming Titus's flavor. Beast is therefore likely a GOON (same as her), not a mafia power role, and the mafia power roles are elsewhere. In which case, there is a VERY high chance that the claim being made is one that is meant to serve as a distraction. Who would it serve as a distraction from? Oh, yeah. The guy who just lost two or three votes on him, Cephrir. Who most likely is very much a scum power role.

Beast is either town or a sacrificial lamb. I refuse to believe that he is scum and anything other than that.

What are you arguing exactly? Your conclusion is that he's either town or scum, which is pretty

. But you seem to be implying that even if he's scum you wouldn't want to lynch him because he'd just be a sacrifice to protect a partner and so you'd rather look for the partner?