I didn't expect you to. The concern was how you reacted to the mod error.In post 1014, BBmolla wrote:Nach, if you think I'm scum fine, but I'm not going to fake a mod error. I'm better than that dude.
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Vote: mnemonicdevice
the stars tell me that this vote is a good one
they also probably have paranoid niggles on peregrinev but they do know that giving him an extra day probably is best, considering roleblocker if scum will be completely trapped on peregrine
mem is not a star child and is not town by the feeling of my early bones either, so she's doubly a good vote for now.-
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this is borderline retarded logic.pv wrote:So, you claim to be town, and think Sleepy is scum for claiming the same thing in your PM?
i didn't begin suspecting that town could be full of negative utility roles until after the two flips + networker claim + sleepy hinting at it.
you're misrepresenting this.
the rest of the things you said in #1008 aren't really any better, but peacebringer can defend himself on them. this was just so poor i had to mention it.
what was your read on me n1?pv wrote:I targeted Rail Tracer last night.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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this is a dumb question, given how obvious the answer is (hint: read the fucking thread). not to mention the answer to this is absolutely meaningless in determining anything other than peacebringer is, or knows there is, a daytalk enabler.mitillos wrote:Furthermore, do the two of you have daytalk, currently?It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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because it's nonsense (i mean, seriously, how fucking dumb do you think peacebringer needs to be to lie about that? either he's really a daytalk enabler or he knows of a role/mechanic that enables it), and it's already been confirmed. you clearly aren't reading if you can't see this.
pop quiz: how would BB know the results of this paranoid cop from N1?It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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pop quiz: why do you think bb complained that RC hasn't been posting in the qt?
pop quiz: why do you think bb and RC haven't said peacebringer is confirmed scum for lying?
read the damn thread. your persistence in asking questions like this just makes it look like you're trying to seem like you're doing something when you aren't.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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Tell you what. You keep making your assumptions about the other players and I'll keep asking my questions. I've read the thread. I want RC to confirm or deny certain things. You butting in just makes you look that you're trying to either stop RC from potentially slipping up, or alternatively protect people from the consequences of their lies.You don't have ambiguity; you haveoptions.-
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@RT: I am serious that you should stop opposing questions. I am not serious about the implication that you are protecting people and so on (remember, my read on you is null-town).
@ooba: mnem is still my strongest scum read. But, if I can find some sort of clear indication of lying somewhere, I'd rather vote for the liars, first. and with so many claimed powers, that seems likely. I think that after mnem, I'd be probably be looking more at {pere, peace, nani} first, for additional scum.You don't have ambiguity; you haveoptions.-
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I may just be incredibly optimistic, but I'm not going to vote for Mitillos yet.
Regarding Luna Lovegood, first, I feel that their/his play has just generally been less town than I'd expect. I also suspect that his push on BBmolla's reaction to the guilty is forced. I agree that there were some weird things there, but I don't think it's common practice to assume a mod error, even if given a confusing result (I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have), and given that naive cop (and knowing you're one) is pretty boring unless there's some sort of role interaction that can make it not so, I think that this game there is perhaps even more reason to not question the guilty. The main thing of late, however, is the push for N to publicly reveal whether or not a mod error occurred. It is pushier than I'd expect from Nacho, and I think it's just an attempt to look town where in fact it just doesn't really do anything for the town.
Mnemonic is fine as a wagon too, but I'm feeling like a meatier lynch right now. Maybe later I'll feel differently! Who knows?
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[b'] everything that you call not town is null. You are simply seeking to discredit one calling you scum. I do not blame you, it is what you have to do. The more you pull this stuff out the more you reveal yourself to be scum. [/b]In post 1008, PeregrineV wrote:
You have no scumreads (ooba posted something scummy, and Sleepy claimed Miller are your reads.)In post 1007, PeaceBringer wrote:the only reason PV is going after me because using language here, I am "tunnelled" on him. There has been nothing in play or behavior that makes me see things differently.
You call three people town and the rest are null (139).
You vote Katsuki for meta (143,160) one page after calling him town (139).
In 306, you completely deny 143.
After he replaces out, you maintain the slot is scum for the same reasons (483).
In addition, you claimed with no votes and no pressure (833).
See I am not claim adverse, contray to the culture around here it seems. Someone proclaims an incorrect view, going to callthem on it,particularly with a negative utility claim which may be of benefit if I dieYou also claim "negative utility", the exact same reason you voted Sleepy/Diabolik (41).
Actually I never state my reason other than the weird to me play needed for sussing out. Fishing for reactions, it led to the exposure of kat/you
So, you claim to be town, and think Sleepy is scum for claiming the same thing in your PM?
nope, sleepy is town
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Yknow, if you wanted me lynched you could provide some reasons, otherwise I doubt people will go that route dood.In post 1029, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yes, we have daytalk.
Until either me or BB gets lynched, all I'm doing is prod dodging. He needs rope.@thesupertriomusical on Instagram, come see it if you’re in LA area, I wrote it!-
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You don't think he has a point?In post 1024, Mitillos wrote:You butting in just makes you look that you're trying to either stop RC from potentially slipping up, or alternatively protect people from the consequences of their lies.
Why?In post 1027, ooba wrote:RC is my strongest town read.
You would assume a frame instead?In post 1030, DeasVail wrote:I agree that there were some weird things there, but I don't think it's common practice to assume a mod error,
What do you think of Molla in general?
When a mod error is corrected halfway into the day, it should probably be revealed just because it's easier and clearer to all involved. This is a position I'd end up taking regardless of alignment; not a big deal, but better modding practice.In post 1030, DeasVail wrote:The main thing of late, however, is the push for N to publicly reveal whether or not a mod error occurred. It is pushier than I'd expect from Nacho, and I think it's just an attempt to look town where in fact it just doesn't really do anything for the town.-
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Like the vodka?In post 990, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am absolutely convinced that BB is scum.
Perhaps sharing the "why" will help share your absoluteness.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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If your fishing for a modkill, then just post your role PM and get it over with.In post 1013, BBmolla wrote:
Because I assumed it was a framer. It just made most sense to me. Only when people started going "No, sanity always triumphs over framer shit!" did I go "Okay, one way to resolve this.In post 1000, Luna Lovegood wrote: Why didn't you this question when you first received the investigation?
Why didn't you confirm that the result was correct immediately?
Because I assumed it was. That would have been a fucking ENORMOUS mod error and I assumed that it was a wierd but correct result, not a mod error.
Having it be a mod error means things makes more sense and there's less guesswork I have to do. I did question what the result meant, hence asking in my neighborhood and in thread. I trust my mods enough to not make mistakes like that.In post 1000, Luna Lovegood wrote:Why did you assume it wasn't a mod error?
Vote: BBMolla
I think I want to go here for a moment because I don't buy the way he's been reacting to the mod error because he doesn't actually seem at all frustrated about it and not questioning a guilty result as a naive cop is weird as hell.
Made a post, inbox had one message, read it, "MOD ERROR!", "oh, awkward, it was error", look in QT, "it was an error."In post 1001, Luna Lovegood wrote:Timing of "oh. this is a mod error." is also pretty shitty because it comes a minute after another post he made; seems strange that he would make a post, check QT, makes another post. It also seems weird that N didn't PM him and instead posted in the QT even though posting in the QT confirms his error to RC.
Recieved both dood.
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I'm saying he saw his role PM, thought negative utility, Sleepy claimed negative utility, and his first thought was scum?In post 1019, Rail Tracer wrote:
this is borderline retarded logic.pv wrote:So, you claim to be town, and think Sleepy is scum for claiming the same thing in your PM?
i didn't begin suspecting that town could be full of negative utility roles until after the two flips + networker claim + sleepy hinting at it.
you're misrepresenting this.
That's borderline retarded logic.
I'm sure Peace appreciates it.In post 1019, Rail Tracer wrote:the rest of the things you said in #1008 aren't really any better, but peacebringer can defend himself on them. this was just so poor i had to mention it.
Mostly null. Was hoping your reaction today would give me more info to decide.In post 1019, Rail Tracer wrote:
what was your read on me n1?pv wrote:I targeted Rail Tracer last night.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Yes, you need to continue calling me scum to avoid creating interactions with other players. And that's OK. It effectively locks you down in thread until a vig gets around to you.In post 1031, PeaceBringer wrote:
[b'] everything that you call not town is null. You are simply seeking to discredit one calling you scum. I do not blame you, it is what you have to do. The more you pull this stuff out the more you reveal yourself to be scum. [/b]In post 1008, PeregrineV wrote:
You have no scumreads (ooba posted something scummy, and Sleepy claimed Miller are your reads.)In post 1007, PeaceBringer wrote:the only reason PV is going after me because using language here, I am "tunnelled" on him. There has been nothing in play or behavior that makes me see things differently.
You call three people town and the rest are null (139).
You vote Katsuki for meta (143,160) one page after calling him town (139).
In 306, you completely deny 143.
After he replaces out, you maintain the slot is scum for the same reasons (483).
In addition, you claimed with no votes and no pressure (833).
See I am not claim adverse, contray to the culture around here it seems. Someone proclaims an incorrect view, going to callthem on it,particularly with a negative utility claim which may be of benefit if I dieYou also claim "negative utility", the exact same reason you voted Sleepy/Diabolik (41).
Actually I never state my reason other than the weird to me play needed for sussing out. Fishing for reactions, it led to the exposure of kat/you
So, you claim to be town, and think Sleepy is scum for claiming the same thing in your PM?
nope, sleepy is town
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All of those things were responses to my questions.In post 1035, PeregrineV wrote:If your fishing for a modkill, then just post your role PM and get it over with.
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Way off topic, but for N to admit in thread that he sent BBmolla the wrong results PM would basically be mod-confirming him, and bad practice.In post 1033, Luna Lovegood wrote:
You don't think he has a point?In post 1024, Mitillos wrote:You butting in just makes you look that you're trying to either stop RC from potentially slipping up, or alternatively protect people from the consequences of their lies.
Why?In post 1027, ooba wrote:RC is my strongest town read.
You would assume a frame instead?In post 1030, DeasVail wrote:I agree that there were some weird things there, but I don't think it's common practice to assume a mod error,
What do you think of Molla in general?
When a mod error is corrected halfway into the day, it should probably be revealed just because it's easier and clearer to all involved. This is a position I'd end up taking regardless of alignment; not a big deal, but better modding practice.In post 1030, DeasVail wrote:The main thing of late, however, is the push for N to publicly reveal whether or not a mod error occurred. It is pushier than I'd expect from Nacho, and I think it's just an attempt to look town where in fact it just doesn't really do anything for the town.
Please drop and vote for Peace. His death will end scum daytalk (830).I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Updated.
You have no scumreads (ooba posted something scummy, and Sleepy claimed Miller are your reads.)In post 1007, PeaceBringer wrote:the only reason PV is going after me because using language here, I am "tunnelled" on him. There has been nothing in play or behavior that makes me see things differently.
You call three people town and the rest are null (139).
You vote Katsuki for meta (143,160) one page after calling him town (139).
In 306, you completely deny 143.
After he replaces out, you maintain the slot is scum for the same reasons (483).
In addition, you claimed with no votes and no pressure (833).
You also claim "negative utility", the exact same reason you voted Sleepy/Diabolik (41).
So, you claim to be town, and think Sleepy is scum for claiming the same thing in your PM?
A player claims a guilty on you(830). Knowing your alignment, you accuse them of lying or being paranoid(833). But, you don't think they are scum.
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Then what are your thoughts on BBmolla? Is he scum or town?In post 1038, Luna Lovegood wrote:
All of those things were responses to my questions.In post 1035, PeregrineV wrote:If your fishing for a modkill, then just post your role PM and get it over with.
Otherwise, let it go and either we think it's true or we don't.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.
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