Spoiler: real catchup post
wutIn post 4, SleepyKrew wrote:Also, my role is a negative utility.
:goodposting:In post 9, BBmolla wrote:Haha
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Haha yeah
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N's notable
Making things quotable
Reading the game when I'm not playing dota (bull)
Sleepykrew
Becomes stu
Dayvigged in like post 2
Just kidding
I'm bidding
On this getting crazy at this sitting
Wish the dayvig was real
Before thelove I would kneel
Cause Skrew got a role pm that says he's vile as veal
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Word up
VOTE: Sleepykrew
In post 44, DeasVail wrote:I think you are trying to follow the status quo in regard to SleepyKrew, but unlike others, you are trying very hard to rationalize it.
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE STATUS QUO TO MEIn post 43, PeaceBringer wrote:May as well run up the claim, so who hops on and who does not. Then we can sort out what scum is likely to do...
These all seem like town things to me.In post 45, PeaceBringer wrote:Sure, SleepyKrew can just be a naive moron who felt that was best thing to do. But let me ask you this, why if you have a negative utility role do you announce it? Does that make sense? Maybe you want to get run up, may be you want to see who jumps on, lots and lots of maybe's.
1) Why are his beliefs that negative utility claims need pressure determined by the votes of others? He ends up saying "claiming like that pretty much begs for votes, and even though they might just not be the sharpest knife in the knife drawer, might as well run them up anyway" which seems like a pretty original view.In post 86, DeasVail wrote:At first, PeaceBringer is wondering why people are voting for SleepyKrew. It is quite strongly suggested by his posts that he didn't understand why himself. However, he then decides that a negative utility claim needs pressure, and it's quite clear that this belief has been influenced by the votes of others. If he already believed before this game that negative utility claims need pressure, than he would have understood the pressure on SleepyKrew without needing to ask for it. So, I am pretty sure that he didn't. Then, when one of the original SleepyKrew voters reveals that there is actually no good reason to make SleepyKrew claim, PeaceBringer stands strong in his belief that negative utility claims need pressure.
This was very likely not a belief of his before, so how did it become so strong? I think that this is because he was scum under the impression that this is what the townies were doing (when it wasn't) and after having justified his vote on the SleepyKrew wagon in such a way, he couldn't suddenly decide as scum that negative utility claims don't need pressure after all.
2) Why would he justify his vote on the SleepyKrew wagon the way he did?
Not surprising; it's the RVS.In post 89, dopog wrote:Not sure; "Fake pushing" for an "rvs" vote and when he's at like L-3/4 saying "I didn't know there were serious votes" sounds hecka artificial.
You don't really care about neromollie doing the same thing.In post 89, dopog wrote:Overly "suprised" that BB (maybe others) are reading him as scum.
When did you get over that?In post 90, DeasVail wrote:but I can't really get over how he continued to stand by SKrew needing to be pressured after it was revealed that no one was really interested in that.
...In post 115, dopog wrote:1) pushed a wagon on someone jokingly;
~ which a) keeps rvs + fluff posting going which sucks whilst contrivedly looking helpful b) but is also in the wider scope indicitave of what you need to do as scum (get people lycnhed)
And yeah obv lycnhes don't usually come out of the biggest rvs wagon; But experientially/anecdotally scum sometimes do go "why aren't you voting this guy" for their first say five posts; and I reckon it's a semi-solid scumtell because it is scum motivated if not optimum play.
...or he was still following that whole "fake pushing an RVS wagon" thing.In post 115, dopog wrote:2) Was surprised about people scum reading SleepyKrew
~ which seems to indicate he probably knows that sleepykrew is town (or not on his scumteam, etc.)
Do you have anything more?In post 121, Nani wrote:Vote: Peacebringer
Serous vote, stop shitty votes like the shark ones please.
Neroandmolly is town.
You say this, but we've gotten more out of others already.In post 127, PeaceBringer wrote:oh and you really are not going to get much why outta me, I don't really share what goes on in my brain.
I think that stubborn assholish Katsuki is a stronger sign of him being town; he's arrogant as hell as both alignments but knows that he's pretty lynchable so usually keeps his head down. The "I wonder" series was a good moment of him not keeping his head down.In post 128, Katsuki wrote:I wonder.In post 120, theloveofneroandmollie wrote:Is there a reason you are being so hard to get along with?
I do however have a hard time believing that a one-word post along with a vote is so hard to understand though.
MUTLEY
YOU KNOW YOU SURE AS HELL AREN'T GONNA MAKE A BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL
WHY DID YOU PROMISE US ONE AND DELIVER US NOTHING
That's a bad reason to put someone as town unless you're actually correct.In post 161, ooba wrote:Shadowy Poison - Town for echoing my thoughts on dopog=scum -> PB=scum
What is this? Do you have anything to add to thread?
See my last post and worry no more.In post 223, Shadowy Poison wrote:LUNA LOVE, WHERE ARE YOUUUUU?
In post 283, theloveofneroandmollie wrote:but you've never played with Deas so why do you think he's a reaction based player?In post 282, PeaceBringer wrote:a play like that from a reactions based player would be to get reactions and see what happensIn post 280, theloveofneroandmollie wrote:Even if he had reason to believe that it was multiball, the town motivation of making that claim is what?
Scum often hint at there being a second killing faction early on.
So, we have more than one kill tonight. What does this say about Deas?
ZINGIn post 284, Rail Tracer wrote:nothing
To be fair, I found Deas's multiball quote weird but it's because of something he does as writing style and not as either alignment
Why are you voting someone for posting meta?In post 291, Dante wrote:Too much meta.In post 290, mnemonicdevice wrote:@SleepyKrew, can you link me to your most recent scum and town games please.
Vote mnemonicdevice
In post 293, theloveofneroandmollie wrote:pfft. I bleed town and allIn post 292, Luna Lovegood wrote:mollie mostly.In post 91, DeasVail wrote:Neroandmollie, what is so town about you so far?my arguments are perfectly logical.
when my heart doesn't beat for youIn post 311, DeasVail wrote:If you're still somehow town, we can win this game together. You just have to trust me.
i can't just trust a winkyface
Pointless doesn't always equal scummy.In post 319, Dante wrote:Using meta to scum hunt on Day 1 is pointless.
Better off using the Magic 8-ball.
look at you
everything you post is pointless
but does that make you scum?
(maybe)
NOPE TRY AGAINIn post 326, Dante wrote:Usually need blood in the water...but the 8-ball said you were scum so I'm sticking with that...In post 325, Rail Tracer wrote:pretend you're town for a moment.
give me your thoughts on the game so far.
Pretend you're town for a moment, what are your thoughts?
He might die faster if you made a CASE or something like that.In post 331, Nani wrote:Why isn't Peace Bringer dead yet?
He voted a player who he thought he was town after he was pressured to make a stance, how obvious this can be?
I would quote the picture again but let's all be honest with each other here it's too fucking big to be posted again.In post 344, SleepyKrew wrote:Also Luna Lovelyhydra where are you
Why wouldn't you expect an married couple to have a son?In post 369, PeaceBringer wrote:you have an "internet son"In post 367, theloveofneroandmollie wrote:my internet son always posts fluffy.
we once played a skype game and he spoke spanish the whole time. he was the doc. it isn't a scumtell for him.
SEEMS SUSPICIOUS TO ME
KATS ;_;
WHY DO YOU JOIN THESE GAMES
IF ALL YOU ARE EVER GONNA DO
IS TROLL A LITTLE AND THEN REPLACE OUT
seven pages more
will i be able to make it?
am i good enough to make it?
actually no not way harderIn post 424, Rail Tracer wrote:way harder? because he hasn't done much outside of active lurking so far.
I don't see how you can *almost* come close to reading something but not quite make it.
unless you got hit with a 20 minute ninja
from what i understands, those guys are some motherfuckers
not that he'll ever read this, butIn post 479, mnemonicdevice wrote:Why are you fighting a town read on yourself DV?
A town read is a good thing, scum or not. The only time you wouldn't want a town read is if you are a jester.
jester suspicions?
really?
Peregrine's replace in is very underwhelming. I'm not *too* surprised there.
Talking with Mara there.In post 495, Shadowy Poison wrote:Huh? I don't understand what you meant here.
Voting on bullshit seems better than voting for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL seems better to me, but.In post 500, Dante wrote:Personally, I'd rather vote using the Magic 8-ball scum detector than use some BS meta on day 1.
In post 530, theloveofneroandmollie wrote:I haven't been in this game as much cos I think kasuki should have been lynched right away.
Still don't like this.
Where have you been this game? Because you haven't done SHIT.In post 544, Shadowy Poison wrote:I think that nero/mollie is still really freaking town so I'm disengaging this 1v1 before it gets out of hand
Done!
NICE:
theloveofmollie
deasvail
rail trace
the bringer of peace
ooba
peregrinev
diabolitik
NULL (NOT NAUGHTY?)
metal unites mutley
dante
mnem
vassassin
nani
vifam
bbmolla (???)
NAUGHTY
poison
dopog