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Post Post #10625  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:54 pm

In post 10621, MathBlade wrote:What question am I avoiding?

In post 10313, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 10301, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10300, Ankamius wrote:You never actually addressed why Giovanni's clears should be trusted.


You never addressed why they can't other than "Godfather"

Proof is in your court and every single clear so far has turned true.


Gio could be lying scum.

True or false, Math?

In post 10352, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 10338, MathBlade wrote:Read the next paragraph. It means Gio never targeted Maxous if he is a weak follower and is telling the truth.

Furthermore Gio also confirmed Narna and Narna flipped Town. In multiball what scum makes that risk? Please do explain.


Why would you think it's multiball? The 2 kills a night every night except 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7?

Why do you think scum-Gio is incapable of fakeclaiming the weak modifier?

In post 10361, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 10348, MathBlade wrote:What do you know Gio received a no result because he didn't target Maxous. Shocking. And because no target weak doesn't trigger.


As asked in a previous episode of "What the Fuck is Mathblade Thinking?", why is Giovanni town and not fakeclaiming scum?

In post 10377, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 10356, MathBlade wrote:So the only way Gio is scum with Maxous is if it happened during the N5 bullshit but if it happened during the N5 bullshit he would still be weak which means I am still Town!


If he were scum faking it, then you could be town.

Is he scum faking it?

In post 10408, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 10401, MathBlade wrote:Explain how Nahdia's block of N4 on Maxous fails if Maxous is not ascetic.


She was probably rolebloecked when she targeted Max. His ability does that to those who target him.

In post 10401, MathBlade wrote:If we all agree amaxous was an ascetic roleblocker Gio lives. We just have to wait for the bolder question to come back.


You never answered the question about why Gio cannot be fakeclaiming.
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Post Post #10626  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:39 pm

Because fake claiming D2 and then not killing the JK or outed rolecop is not something scum!Gio would do.

Because scum Gio would not when I replaced in would not do what in essence is a guilty on Maxous.

If Gio is scum it had to be during N5 if at all in which case it looks like he would be weak.

Said that multiple times.
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Post Post #10627  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:03 pm

In post 10626, MathBlade wrote:Because fake claiming D2 and then not killing the JK or outed rolecop is not something scum!Gio would do.

Because scum Gio would not when I replaced in would not do what in essence is a guilty on Maxous.

If Gio is scum it had to be during N5 if at all in which case it looks like he would be weak.

Said that multiple times.

I can understand what your saying here, but I don't agree.
There are too many variables at that time that makes this less reputable.
I can't think of any in particular, but the environment that the game has impressed upon me has me immediately shaking my head to statements like these.

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Post Post #10628  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:26 pm

That same barometer that says I am scum. Riiiight. The environment is scum trying to mislynch me.
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Post Post #10629  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:48 pm

It's not the environment that makes you scum (or at least not completely), it's your play.

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Post Post #10630  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:55 pm

The environment I'm referring to is the roles. What I gather from this environment, which is actually something that you tried to promote pre-Maxous, is that you can't let the roles have a large influence on your play because the game implies that they're misleading. Pre-Maxous, you were all about the facts and never made assumptions on the premise that you were town because that wouldn't appeal to us and to us, it's not a fact. Your play changed. I'm not confident enough to say that it changed after Maxous was flipped, but it really strikes to me as incriminating of you.

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Post Post #10631  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:08 pm

I am still and always about the facts. *glares*
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Post Post #10632  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:13 pm

Day 8, Vote Count #10

Current Vote Count:

(2) Giovanni il Pellegrino -- Nahdia, PeregrineV
(2) MathBlade -- Almost50, BigYoshiFan
(0) PeregrineV
(0) Nahdia
(1) Ankamius -- MathBlade
(0) BigYoshiFan
(0) Almost50
(0) JaeReed

Not Voting: Giovanni il Pellegrino, JaeReed, Ankamius

With 8 votes available, it takes 5 votes to hammer.

BigYoshiFan is V/LA until 1/12.
Giovanni il Pellegrino is V/LA until 1/12.
MathBlade is V/LA until 1/12.

Day 8 Will End on Saturday, January 21st, at 9 p.m. Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2017-01-21 21:00:00)




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Post Post #10633  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:38 pm

VOTE: MathBlade

I'm probably just wrong on Math, either way, I think I want this flipped first, not Gio. There's too many variables that could have fucked with Gio's result, I think.

I do not want A50, Ank, or Yoshi flipped. They're all townreads that I'm not willing to negotiate on currently.

@Gio I want to be extra super sure. Did your night result PM when you followed MathBlade say that MATHBLADE performed the investigative action, or did it just say YOUR TARGET?
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Post Post #10634  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:06 pm

So you're lynching me because you think I am Town greaaaaaaat.....

*sigh*

This fucking game.
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Post Post #10635  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:01 pm

Hey, guys. How about 2k more of posts? We can make this game one of the top 3 in post count. Other than that, I don't see much new content .. just the same stuff repeated over and over and over and over again and again and again and again!
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Post Post #10636  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:04 pm

In post 10635, Almost50 wrote:Hey, guys. How about 2k more of posts? We can make this game one of the top 3 in post count. Other than that, I don't see much new content .. just the same stuff repeated over and over and over and over again and again and again and again!
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Post Post #10637  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:09 pm

Yup. It's why I'm opting to not bother responding with "That's not what I'm saying" because it's pretty much pointless at this stage. MathBlade will continue to misconstrue everything that is said unless it's "MathBlade is town so let's lynch Ank"

So I asked. Godfather being followed by a weak follower, if there's nothing else as a modifier to either of them or any result messing stuff, from my understanding of the answers the mod gave me (I asked a hypothetical godfather being followed and a hypothetical godfather visited by weak role) would have the weak follower both live and receive a result on the investigative action the Godfather took.

So Math's push to lynch Gio over them looks really bad with this knowledge in mind. It comes across as wanting to falsely conftown themself.
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Post Post #10638  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:14 pm

How about switching your vote to MathBlade, Nahdia?

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Post Post #10639  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:27 pm

absolutely not.
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Post Post #10640  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:33 pm

Then I guess we have a lot more pages to go.
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Post Post #10641  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:40 pm

I'm not interested in the back and forths anymore. They long since stopped being productive.

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Post Post #10642  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:44 pm

In post 10641, Ankamius wrote:I'm not interested in the back and forths anymore. They long since stopped being productive.

Agreed.

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Post Post #10643  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:07 pm

In post 10637, JaeReed wrote:So I asked. Godfather being followed by a weak follower, if there's nothing else as a modifier to either of them or any result messing stuff, from my understanding of the answers the mod gave me (I asked a hypothetical godfather being followed and a hypothetical godfather visited by weak role) would have the weak follower both live and receive a result on the investigative action the Godfather took.


In other words, Math flipping Scum does NOT necessarily incriminate Gio, which is EXACTLY what I was thinking, hence I suggested we lynch MATH, then NAHDIA, and IF THE GAME DOESN'T END BY THEN we lynch Ankamius.

*A loud voice echo in vacuum: "No. Just No. This is stupid. You're all dumb. The Russians are out to get me because I didn't vote Trump. The Pope wants to lynch me because I'm not Catholic. Aliens are pursuing my case because I'm the only human left on the planet." .. or something along those lines.*
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Post Post #10644  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:15 pm

I flip Town you guys lynch ank.

That is it.

Ank and PV have been pushing literal garbage of weak dying to ascetic.

Just waiting for a vote so I hammer myself so Ank doesn't get hammers.

At this point not much I can say when people invent alternate universes.

Hands off Nahdia JaeReed Gio after my town flip.
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Post Post #10645  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:20 pm

Why Ank over PV?

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Post Post #10646  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:22 pm

Regardless of your flip my next lynch is nahdia.
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Post Post #10647  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:33 pm

@Skullduggery, I am no longer V/LA.

In post 10633, JaeReed wrote:@Gio I want to be extra super sure. Did your night result PM when you followed MathBlade say that MATHBLADE performed the investigative action, or did it just say YOUR TARGET?


Yes, it said that Mathblade performed the action.

So I asked. Godfather being followed by a weak follower, if there's nothing else as a modifier to either of them or any result messing stuff, from my understanding of the answers the mod gave me (I asked a hypothetical godfather being followed and a hypothetical godfather visited by weak role) would have the weak follower both live and receive a result on the investigative action the Godfather took.


(sigh)

Let's get on with it, then.


VOTE: Mathblade

L-1

Mathblade, since you seem to be online, take the lead.

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Post Post #10648  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:37 pm

VOTE: Mathblade

This day needs to end my reads are Ank and PV scum. Possible A50 or Yoshi.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841

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Post Post #10649  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:38 pm

In post 10645, BigYoshiFan wrote:Why Ank over PV?


Because Ank says by setup I am scum. I am Town lynch him hard he has to be SK.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841

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