Ttyll Mafia - Game Over!

[Ircher]

Wait, we still had one lynch to go!
You endgamed it at the wrong point!

The actual numbers are in the mod pt actually.

If town could stop a scum nk, they would've gained a ML; the Vig should've been 1-Shot.

[Ircher]

MathBlade had already claimed and scum knew his full role.

Texcat Seraph-Knighted Albert instead of Math plus he was dead anyway after the lynch.

Finally, scum had a 1-Shot strongman left to use.

Into the night, it would be 5T w/ 1 EBG vs. 3S w/ a strongman shot and 1-Shot LP left.

Albert gets strongmanned killed gives 4-3.

If Town is lynched : 3-3 = Scum win
If Eager is lynched : 4-3 then scum will probably off MathBlade for 3-3 scum win. Letting an elite bodyguard alive who is fullclaimed is a bad idea and just extremely suboptimal night-play.
If Dreal or White was lynched : 4-2 then 3-2 w/ MathBlade off'd.

After that if the other (non-Eager) is lynched : 3-1 which becomes 2-1 after the night. With Eager left w/ a 1-Shot Lynchproof, he could claim and be lynched for 2-1 into the night then 1-1 the next day. Still a scum win.

The only way for scum to lose was to play extremely suboptimal for subsequent night-kills and they already had the info they needed.

[drealmerz7]

and I had essentially already said I was going to strongman ABR on the next Night

[Ircher]

Would you have killed Math knowing he was an Elite BG instead of a regular BG?

[Ircher]

I guess there is another option I may have forgotten which is no lynch, but no lynch would still be a scum victory.

[drealmerz7]

Would you have killed Math knowing he was an Elite BG instead of a regular BG?

I did know they were elite and, no, strongman through to the mason who should be being protected by the BG and let that angle into the mix of why that slot didn't protect ABR - not an angle I cared about or was going to pursue, but, it would have been there

bigger for me were the points: 1.) that ABR was unpredicable and I needed to be able to control the game better going forward (always act as if it's not end-game, imo, because you never *know*), 2.) I thought I had MB more in my trust corner as well, especially with the siblinghood chat. They were semi-suspect of PV too, needed to keep MB alive.

the only other kill I even let pass my head was mirhawk because I thought they might step it up end-game and do damage, but I figured they were vanilla and I could handle getting opposed in end-game and get who I needed to side with me regardless

[Ircher]

Well, for now, I stand by my decision to call the game, but maybe my backup mod has a different opinion.

[drealmerz7]

I'm also not good (because I have no experience really) with end-game stuff

eS very well could have talked me into making a more "right" decision if there was one and I probably would have been trusting and gone with that in deference

[eagerSnake]

I would've suggested strong killing MB and then "lynching" me, then killing someone who is unlikely to be protected (like pv or tex, probably been ok with Mirhawk as well.)

Would've achieved same result as your plan.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lynchproof is OP. Besides that gg

[eagerSnake]

Lynchproof is OP. Besides that gg

Town had some good roles too.

[Gale Wing Srock]

Probably my worst performance in a mafia game in this forum. Sorry for the misplays guys. All my reads were borked this game.

I am going to take a break from mafia for a while, this is embarrassing. *face palm*

[drealmerz7]

GWS, one of the reasons (for me) that you were the NK was because I didn't want to answer you ?s to me in Aerth chat and I knew if we killed you it would just be the rest of us scums in there and it'd be no worries

[drealmerz7]

you did all notice that all 4 scum were on Aerth, right?

total coincidence of course

[Ms Marangal]

It's amazing how obvscum keep failing to get lynched again and again.

Talking about WQ

Ive actually claimed d1 (accidentally) and still pretty much made it to end game.

I have a charm

[SirCakez]

Everyone has a bad game once in a while Gale, it's ok

[RachMarie]

Considering we self selected what planet we were on before we knew our faction roles, pretty sure that just happened to be, because that planet sounded like the coolest one to a large number of us.

Wis was actually right on that, but of course us scummy types wanted you to lynch him for it

[RachMarie]

Gale hang in there it happens we all have bad games where we are not at our best. I certainly was not at my best in this game

keep on playing you will learn more as you play more

[Aeronaut]

It's all good Gale. You can look back at my games and at least five would be worse than you played in this one; don't worry about it!

[Ircher]

PTs have been released!

[drealmerz7]

be free!!! fly!!!!!

pls don't lock this thread until I get some post game comments done which could be like a week?

[Ircher]

tell that to untrod.

[drealmerz7]

that was me telling UT, but, maybe he won't read that and I'll PM him, thanks

[Gale Wing Srock]

Everyone has a bad game once in a while Gale, it's ok

It's all good Gale. You can look back at my games and at least five would be worse than you played in this one; don't worry about it!

I wonder if I should have shot DS N1 or not. The two shot confused me a bit.

[drealmerz7]

definitely should not have shot DS N1 (I mean, it worked for me, so, I'm not complaining, but...), no, that was horrible move, really, man, sucks to have to tell you, but, especially in a 17p

hold on to those vig shots - though I'm wondering if more balance would have been brought if you could day-shoot as well, that way in case you were up to lynch you could still use it

but yeah both of those shots were quite bad ):

vax might have been worse, I can't even tell

if you can't get a good feel on a shoot but really think you should shoot - shoot your top TRs last vote