Matrix6 and the Newbie Queue

[Bicephalous Bob]

IC the Light

2 Mafia Goons

1 Inexperience-Challenged Innocent Child
1 {Tracker, Doc}
5 VTs

sorry for the shitty pun

[Bicephalous Bob]

IC the Light Light

Mafia Goon
Mafia Faith Healer

1 Inexperience-Challenged Innocent Child
Town Faith Healer
5 VTs

Faith Healers have a 100% success rate except if they target the same player.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I really think it's a good idea to make the IC confirmed town with the chance of having a protective role. I don't see how you can teach newbies what you think is scummy if you have to push town at the same time, unless you're a shitty scumhunter, in which case you shouldn't be teaching newbies anyway.

I already said this in the let's-revolutionize-mafiascum thread, but adding direct links to the signup threads in the corresponding forum descriptions would help a great deal. Also, the guide to signing up on the main page can be replaced with a link to the sign-up thread saying "respond with '/in' to this thread to sign up for your first game".

[Bicephalous Bob]

It doesn't have to be

[Bicephalous Bob]

I really think it's a good idea to make the IC confirmed town with the chance of having a protective role. I don't see how you can teach newbies what you think is scummy if you have to push town at the same time, unless you're a shitty scumhunter, in which case you shouldn't be teaching newbies anyway.

I already said this in the let's-revolutionize-mafiascum thread, but adding direct links to the signup threads in the corresponding forum descriptions would help a great deal. Also, the guide to signing up on the main page can be replaced with a link to the sign-up thread saying "respond with '/in' to this thread to sign up for your first game".

You'd also need a high chance of the IC to be BP or having a doc/jk in the setup, or mafia will just do what they like to do anyway: Snipe the IC in N1.
And even then, you basically turn the game into a follow the IC, which is boring, and not how mafia should be played. And innocent child is a pretty dulll role in general, for all the same reasons...

Not with a mafia doc and a town doc who cancel each other out if targeting the same player it isn't.

[Bicephalous Bob]

What is the main goal of newbies? If it's to introduce players to the mechanics and the most common roles, then Matrix6 is absolutely fine and the relative complexity is a necessary evil. If it's to provide a simple playground where newbies can learn to scumhunt, it isn't that suitable.

[Bicephalous Bob]

option 1 and 2 make it too easy for scum to fakeclaim

jk + cop is too much

I don't think vigs and SKs should be in newbies

Track + vig vs. no PR mafia? Hilarious indeed!

are you suggesting that's town-sided? it's very scum-sided

[Bicephalous Bob]

It also isn't a standard role/mechanic, by any means...

It's a fun mechanic, though.

Saying that it's impossible to create a good open setup with an IC is just very narrow-minded. The same WIFOMy aspect can be recreated with a town 1-shot doc.