No Lynching at Evens

[zMuffinMan]

I remember when I started playing on MS it was 50% to no lynch, 50%+1 to lynch and I don't know how this stopped being a thing.

[zMuffinMan]

Some mods do, some don't, some mods don't specify at all in my experience

[zMuffinMan]

No, it's just basic logic.

You literally cannot achieve a lynch (barring multi-voter possibilities) if 50% of the votes are not in play (voting no lynch). There is no reason to make it 50%+1 when 50% means any (other) lynch is impossible.

[zMuffinMan]

The 50% + 1 also creates a threshold that the day ends when enough people agree that the day should end. Making it 50% for a no lynch changes the threshold required to end a day unnaturally and is akin to moving the goalposts.

No, a lynch just literally cannot happen if 50% of the people in the game have decided they don't want a lynch.

That is the entire point of a "threshold". That is the entire definition of a "threshold".

50% is the threshold because 50% is all that's required to ensure no lynch can take place.

You need a majority to form a lynch (which is why it's 50%+1 for a lynch). If you cannot get a majority (50%+1) then the day is over (no lynch). You cannot get a majority when 50% of the players want no lynch. Requiring more than that is just silly.

[zMuffinMan]

I think it's an excuse to justify the no lynch threshold being different when there's really no good reason for it to be

pretty much the first paragraph of ether's 19 explains how silly your stance is

a lynch is final when 50%+1 players agree on lynching someone because that is when they can form a majority

a no lynch should also be final when 50% of the players agree on it because that is when nobody else can form a majority

this is what it means to have a threshold

it's like, if you're in a group of 6 people and you choose to hold a majority vote to decide whether you go to the beach, the movies, some other place, or whether you don't go anywhere and 3 people say they don't want to go anywhere, you don't go "well, that's not majority so too bad!" - there are three people shutting down your ideas, you cannot form a majority consensus

unless you're just throwing out the rules of mafia and saying "well maybe they should be able to change their mind after a decision is made"

in which case, yay for you!