Application of WOTC

[Ircher]

Let's discuss this here, to divert clutter from the Mini Games thread.

Really, WOTC is just wrong -- Players shouldn't hold grudges to the point of not letting players play imo. Nor should mods hold grudges.

That said, there are those people that.... everyone is sick & tired of, but ultimately imo, wotm should be used instead of wotc since its the mod's game.

[Ircher]

If you have an issue w/ another player, you can work it out w/ that player and/or the mod.

But outing a player just because x players dont want to play w/ them isn't right; it should ultimately be the mod's decision, and even then, the mod should give a decent reason (privately or publicly) why they decided to wotm a player. You shouldnt just wotc a player without saying why and the mod should have the freedom of choosing who can play, not the players.

[Ircher]

I remember when KainTepes was on this site...... Lots of mods & players wotm'd or wotc'd KainTepes which was understandable.

But do you know what the prob. w/ the system is? If a player cant play, they cant improve. This was the philosophy I took by allowing KainTepes to play in the first game I modded on this site.

The same, imo, should apply to all players, including yume.

[Ircher]

I am too.

This is what I said back then regarding Kain's /in to my mini:
Subject: Normal Game Queue (Players and Moderators)

Into Ircher, please, he is nice.

Just so everyone is clear on my stance regarding this /in:

I have

no

intentions of rejecting this /in. Kein is not imo a troll, and I feel that we are being rude by not allowing him to play just because he had a an aggressive and obnoxious playstyle that was inherited from playing Town of Salem. He is willing to try to play in a way that is less aggravating, and I strongly suggest reconsidering if you plan on not joining simply because Kein is in the game.

[Ircher]

kaintepes last post was saying he will suicide and he never came back to MS

I'm so worried about his health

Speaking of which....

This is a prime example of why you should be careful as to what you do or say. Those who were around at the time know that part of this was cuz people didnt accept Kain due to a more.... annoying.... playstyle inherited from Town of Salem.

How would things have been different if KainTepes was never WOTC'd or WOTM?

[Ircher]

On another note though, I disagree with the assertion that a WoTC should be made in public or the mod should announce who WOTC'd a player.

Like the report system example, it makes people less likely to do somethinwhen they should because of fear of revenge. It's like the victim of a bully who doesn't say anything cuz they are intimidated and fearful of what happens.

Saying who WoTC'd a player is like tattling and really isn't necessary.

[Ircher]

With the way WoTC is implemented here; that's generally not the case. WoTM on the pther hand generally does consider both sides but wotc generally applies to some threshold and therefore doesn't consider everything.

Yes, both sides should work it out, but if a player doesn't want to let another player know who wotc'd them, then they deserve the right. They are entitled to anonymity but that doesn't mean they should wotc just cuz; the mod and the person wotc'd are not only entitled to, but SHOULD be able to hear the reason for the wotc.

[Ircher]

(but probably means players can request for a certain player to be banned from playing or something like that.)

WOT1 = Wisdom of the One, meaning if you have a problem with a certain player in the player list you can PM me and I'll see if I can do anything about it. I can't guarantee anything since I do it on a case-by-case basis, but obviously I try to be as objective about it as possible.

This^ is basically how WoTC should work imo.

[Ircher]

Why is this thread always active?

[Ircher]

Can we Wisdom of the Crowd this thread?

Like, let it die in peace.