opportunity to freely discuss ongoing games clk here plz

[zoraster]

I dunno. I'm of the opinion that someone using something as proof, particularly hard data, should cite it.

[Muffin]

Why didn't you ask Quadz for a citation, then?

[quadz08]

because zor read that data at the time, pretty sure

[zoraster]

Mostly because I didn't see his post. Show your work, quadz! Show your work!

[quadz08]

uggghhh that post was like a year agooooo

[Kublai Khan]

I agree with Psyche kinda?
The logic that you are communicating with someone outside the thread is flawed since hydras get that same privilege. Sending it to a hydra account is not the same as "forwarding the role pm" since another player never forwarded the pm anywhere. The mod did intend to send it to that slot, and the mod did.

Right. Psyche correctly points out why hydras are bullshit and are a form of acceptable cheating.

Hydras should be banned or everyone should be allowed to discuss on-going games with anyone.

[Psyche]

and i didn't even get into what they do to thread post counts

[kuribo]

Suppose I put together a hydra with me, reck, nachomamma,

fate

, yosarian2,

DGB

, and some other above-average players. Let's say we are not a secret hyrda, but I do all the playing and just ask them for advice now and then. Are you honestly suggesting it wouldn't give me an advantage over just me playing solo?

having been in one hydra with the two that are bolded, I'd like to point you to the "Serene Effect."

ie, sometimes a hydra is not as great as its individual parts


although it's much, much funnier.

[kuribo]

I mean, you're going to get conflicting advice. It sounds great on paper, but it would probably go more like this:

Muffin: So what do I do, guys?
Nacho: Push Psyche, I'm scumreading him and he needs to die.
Yosarian: Not really agreeing with you, but he's null enough that I won't stand in the way.
Reck: Just kill someone, god, they're all scum
Fate: EHUEHUEHUEHUEHEHEHEHHEHUE
DGB: disregard the other heads, claim masons with Nachomamma.
Muffin: Uhhh Nacho is one of the heads here
DGB: Even better!
Reck: The fuck is that shit?
Fate: (after not posting or reading the thread in three weeks): I'M NOT CAUGHT UP BUT I'M PRETTY SURE OVERLORD IS A SCUMFUCK
Yos: Overlord is dead. And town.
DGB: Oh, so he's definitely scum then. That's it, we're claiming Coroner.
Nacho: YES Let's do that
Muffin: What, guys, no, I
Yos: THIS IS A REALLY BAD IDEA DGB
DGB: THAT'S WHY THE SCUM WILL NEVER EXPECT IT
Reck: Fuck this, I'm out
Fate: EHUEHUEHUEHEUHEHUE CORONER CLAIM IS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Muffin: I hate you all.

[vonflare]

Say, for example, a secret hydra existed and everyone on MS is in the hydra.

That would circumvent the rule about discussing ongoing games, because you could discuss the game with everyone on MS.

If you tell the mod you are an anonymous hydra, and they allow that, they have inadvertently allowed discussion of their game throuought the whole site.

That is the basic principle (blown to extreme proportions) behind the argument against hydras whose members are unknown to the mod.

Now, say a rule was implemented making it so that the mod must know everyone in the hydra. The constituent players could create anonymous alts to be part of the hydra, to circumvent that rule.

The whole concept of hydras is flawed.

[Faraday]

a convincing example

[Psyche]

let's stick to the small picture vonvon

[T S O]

vonflare you escalated way too fucking quickly

[Muffin]

Say, for example, a secret hydra existed and everyone on MS is in the hydra.

That would circumvent the rule about discussing ongoing games, because you could discuss the game with everyone on MS.

If you tell the mod you are an anonymous hydra, and they allow that, they have inadvertently allowed discussion of their game throuought the whole site.

That is the basic principle (blown to extreme proportions) behind the argument against hydras whose members are unknown to the mod.

Now, say a rule was implemented making it so that the mod must know everyone in the hydra. The constituent players could create anonymous alts to be part of the hydra, to circumvent that rule.

The whole concept of hydras is flawed.

So everyone on site is in a hydra that signs up to play a game.... Who are the other players?

[Psyche]

the benefits of the hypothetically hypothetical hydra network do not extend to games where members occupy multiple slots

[pirate mollie]

I mean, you're going to get conflicting advice. It sounds great on paper, but it would probably go more like this:

Muffin: So what do I do, guys?
Nacho: Push Psyche, I'm scumreading him and he needs to die.
Yosarian: Not really agreeing with you, but he's null enough that I won't stand in the way.
Reck: Just kill someone, god, they're all scum
Fate: EHUEHUEHUEHUEHEHEHEHHEHUE
DGB: disregard the other heads, claim masons with Nachomamma.
Muffin: Uhhh Nacho is one of the heads here
DGB: Even better!
Reck: The fuck is that shit?
Fate: (after not posting or reading the thread in three weeks): I'M NOT CAUGHT UP BUT I'M PRETTY SURE OVERLORD IS A SCUMFUCK
Yos: Overlord is dead. And town.
DGB: Oh, so he's definitely scum then. That's it, we're claiming Coroner.
Nacho: YES Let's do that
Muffin: What, guys, no, I
Yos: THIS IS A REALLY BAD IDEA DGB
DGB: THAT'S WHY THE SCUM WILL NEVER EXPECT IT
Reck: Fuck this, I'm out
Fate: EHUEHUEHUEHEUHEHUE CORONER CLAIM IS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Muffin: I hate you all.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I KNOW YOU GUYS AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WLD HAPPEN