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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:26 am

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In post 23, Egg wrote:KK, I sincerely hope you don't come from a military family and have that attitude. It would be disrespectful to them if you did. It's disrespectful anyway but that would make it even worse

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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:38 am

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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:44 am

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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:52 am

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"I'm not proud of my country's actions" = "disrepectful"

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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:27 am

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"It's horrible to be called American" = "I'm not proud of my country's actions"

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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:31 am

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In post 19, saulres wrote:For example: When someone says "That person looks Asian", one doesn't generally think they're referring to a Russian, Israeli, Syrian, or Saudi Arabian, but they technically could be.

I'm with you on the Russian bit, but Israel? Syria? Saudi Arabia? From all definitions of "Asia" I've seen, it generally starts around Afghanistan/Pakistan.

And just because when someone says "That person looks Asian" they're intending to say "that person has physical characteristics attributed to the lineage of far-eastern geographical locations", doesn't mean they're wrong. Just as all Far-Eastern Nations are Asian but not all Asian Nations are Far-Eastern Nations, All Canadians are Americans but not all Americans are Canadians.

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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:32 am

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It's horrible to be called an American when you aren't, is what he was saying. Still a bit dramatic, but a very different thing than your out of context quote.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:43 am

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In post 31, zoraster wrote:It's horrible to be called an American when you aren't, is what he was saying. Still a bit dramatic, but a very different thing than your out of context quote.

But if you live on either American continent you
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:44 am

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Also there is an underlying sense of "it is horrible to be an American" if it is qualified by being horrible to be called an American if you are not.

Just like it's horrible to be called a racist if you are not. Or horrible to be called a murderer if you are not.

See where this is going?
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:48 am

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I suspect the impact is determined entirely by whether people are meaning "United States of American" as many people do or if they use it to mean "from the continent of America" which tends to be something (at least in English) few people really mean. Regardless, if it's clear you're using it to mean "From a country North or South American" I doubt a Canadian will particularly care. I just don't really think that's what people tend to mean by that in English.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:54 am

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In post 30, Majiffy wrote:Israel? Syria? Saudi Arabia? From all definitions of "Asia" I've seen, it generally starts around Afghanistan/Pakistan.


I was using this as a reference. Asia "is separated from Africa by Suez Canal. The Mediterranean Sea and Black Sea separate Asia from Europe"
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:03 am

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In post 31, zoraster wrote:It's horrible to be called an American when you aren't, is what he was saying. Still a bit dramatic, but a very different thing than your out of context quote.


If he's non-American, I can respect that.

Majiffy wrote: Just like it's horrible to be called a racist if you are not.


Working in a jail, I've gotten this more times than I can count and it pisses me off every time. It seems a lot of people were raised in homes where they were taught "all white people are racist" which is a racist statement itself. Most recently, I wrote up four inmates. Three for being out of place and one for not going directly to his cell. Two of the four happened to be hispanic and claimed I wrote them up because I "don't like spanish people" which is absolutely ridiculous.

Zoraster, the continent thing was originally stated as just being a technicality. Nobody is saying that it is generally used. It was then pointed out as being wrong which simply isn't true. It's really not a big deal to me personally, but it's not wrong to say anyone in North America or South America is technically American which is all I'm getting at. It's a technicality and I'm fully aware of that.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:28 am

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Try calling a Taiwanese person Chinese and see if they get offended or not.

The US still technically recognizes Taiwan as the actual China under their One-China Policy.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:48 am

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Does Taiwan recognize Taiwan as part of China though?
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:48 am

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incorrect. The US recognizes Bejing as the actual China. It does not technically have an embassy in Taiwan.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:12 pm

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In post 22, Egg wrote:
In post 21, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 18, Majiffy wrote:
In post 14, saulres wrote:
In post 13, Kublai Khan wrote:By that logic Hawaiians aren't American.


And all Mexicans, Cubans, Brazilians, Nicaraguins, Panamanians, Peruvians, etc. are.

I fail to see the problem with referring to inhabitants of a geological landmass as inhabitants of a geological landmass.

Because if you're not from the US, it's a horrible thing to be called.

Fuck you. Seriously. Some of us actually have pride in our country.

Dude. I'm Canadian with English and (deep) French Canadian roots. I was moved to the US when I was still a minor. I've never considered myself American.

I don't really hate the US, but the nationalism level creeps me out. I mean, no other country in the world forces kids to say a pledge to the flag every morning. Not even Russia. It's super creepy.

And apparently Texas has an extra state flag pledge. Creepier.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:23 pm

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I grew up in Texas and never said another state flag pledge, whether or not one exists.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:26 pm

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The only reason I said the pledge was out of fear for what would happen if I didn't.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:29 pm

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In post 36, Egg wrote:Working in a jail, I've gotten this more times than I can count and it pisses me off every time. It seems a lot of people were raised in homes where they were taught "all white people are racist" which is a racist statement itself. Most recently, I wrote up four inmates. Three for being out of place and one for not going directly to his cell. Two of the four happened to be hispanic and claimed I wrote them up because I "don't like spanish people" which is absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah, I get that with middle school kids. It's really obnoxious.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:06 pm

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In post 36, Egg wrote:Zoraster, the continent thing was originally stated as just being a technicality. Nobody is saying that it is generally used. It was then pointed out as being wrong which simply isn't true. It's really not a big deal to me personally, but it's not wrong to say anyone in North America or South America is technically American which is all I'm getting at. It's a technicality and I'm fully aware of that.

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In post 37, Katsuki wrote:Try calling a Taiwanese person Chinese and see if they get offended or not.

This only matters in the scope of the argument if China is designated as a greater landmass than the country itself by Taiwan.

Which it isn't.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:17 pm

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Khan, I apologize. I wrongfully lumped you in with a mentality I've gotten sick of encountering. You are entitled to your opinion and while we may not agree, I can respect it.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:43 am

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In post 41, zoraster wrote:I grew up in Texas and never said another state flag pledge, whether or not one exists.

Texas does, in fact, have a state pledge. Have since I was in high school.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:48 am

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That doesn't really address my point (thus "whether or not it exists"). Did you actually say it? Because I haven't ever heard it said before, whether in school, at the state legislature, etc. And apparently it's been around since 1933, so unless adoption has changed...
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:51 am

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In post 1, saulres wrote:that requirement should be changed to be days not months.

Before a newbie can mod a game?

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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:52 am

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wth... the conversation is not even about modding anymore...?
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