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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:39 am

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so, I'm sure that the people I've played with on mafiascum have gone crazy because of my antics (aka bad play in regards to how mafia is played on mafiascum), and I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. the two sites I currently play mafia on use 72 hour day phases, 24 hour night phases, so everything is very fast paced: craziness is encouraged because it's easier to exploit someone's emotions when they're being attacked with non-stop posts and/or plays that don't fit into a supposed win-con. it's easier to slip up when you're trying to keep up with someone attacking you in a short game than a long game.

but there's an apparent disconnect between my general playstyle and mafiascum's collective playstyle. am I missing something? if you could sum up mafiascum's approach to mafia in a few sentences, how would you do so?

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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:57 am

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Mafiascum's style is slower. In comparison to some sites, much slower. This isn't a good or bad thing, just a difference.

Mafiascum's setup style is
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There are, of course, exceptions on both sides of these generalizations.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:22 am

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In post 1, Magua wrote:Mafiascum's style is slower. In comparison to some sites, much slower. This isn't a good or bad thing, just a difference.

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As a general rule, focus more on analytical gameplay / casebuilding than quick reactions on MS. You'll have more success.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:15 pm

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Fairly confident this is game related btw
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:25 pm

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it's not related to any games in particular but it is related to my gameplay because I feel like I'm really fuckin bad at mafia in the form it's presented on this site
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:57 pm

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In post 0, choof wrote:so, I'm sure that the people I've played with on mafiascum have gone crazy because of my antics (aka bad play in regards to how mafia is played on mafiascum), and I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. the two sites I currently play mafia on use 72 hour day phases, 24 hour night phases, so everything is very fast paced: craziness is encouraged because it's easier to exploit someone's emotions when they're being attacked with non-stop posts and/or plays that don't fit into a supposed win-con. it's easier to slip up when you're trying to keep up with someone attacking you in a short game than a long game.

but there's an apparent disconnect between my general playstyle and mafiascum's collective playstyle. am I missing something? if you could sum up mafiascum's approach to mafia in a few sentences, how would you do so?

and to those that have played with me, or are going to inevitably read my meta due to this thread, godspeed

Mafiascum is has a slower pace to it... more like a slow burn. It makes the games more intellectual.

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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:20 am

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I've come from a site which often operates with a 24/12 set up, and I agree the play is MUCH slower here. I think the hammer system rather than lynch up till deadline makes for a more thoughtful game with less shenanigans too. I hate last minute shenannies in timed games though, so that's my prejudice talking.

I think just see it for what it is, and don't go for the emotional pushes and the like, or certainly not the ones that need instantaneous reactions to work. It's much easier for people to step away and take a breather here versus a timed game, and so that style is IMO less effective anyway.

Personally I find it quite refreshing! :)
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:05 am

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In post 4, choof wrote:it's not related to any games in particular but it is related to my gameplay because I feel like I'm really fuckin bad at mafia in the form it's presented on this site


I have the same issue. Deductions are required very fast on those sites. If you do not say what you think, you lose it.

Yet here the slowest more deliberate people tend to be better.

I tend to rapid think early on or under pressure because its more natural to me. Doubly so if I feel I am in a conversation or get what is going on. Later in the game, you have to slow down. There's not as many players so not as much that needs analysis right then.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:06 pm

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In post 6, Tere wrote:I hate last minute shenannies in timed games though

I think they're entertaining. :twisted:
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:04 pm

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In post 0, choof wrote:but there's an apparent disconnect between my general playstyle and mafiascum's collective playstyle. am I missing something? if you could sum up mafiascum's approach to mafia in a few sentences, how would you do so?


Your quick approach isn't likely to work here because in a given game I might check the thread once every two days or so.

Any zany antics you have planned aren't going to work if I have time to consider all the possibilities with my scumpals.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:33 pm

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The most annoying thing about the shorter day phases I play off-site is that if you get caught viewing the thread and not posting for any length of time, you get called out for "lurking".
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:07 pm

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i wish there were a tradition of midlength games here to complement the long ones and the marathons
i'm sure that the demand is there!
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:09 pm

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thanks for the replies, I'm going to try and fix my play style to reflect a more analytic approach
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:58 pm

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In post 11, Psyche wrote:i wish there were a tradition of midlength games here to complement the long ones and the marathons
i'm sure that the demand is there!

Run one in the micro queue? If my schedule is light I'd play it.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:07 pm

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Yeah micros are relatively quick and I've seen plenty with 7 day dayphases.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:56 am

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oh yeah!
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:26 am

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what sites did you play on, choof?
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:01 pm

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In post 6, Tere wrote:I've come from a site which often operates with a 24/12 set up
Yea, me to. Though mostly 24/24.

I don't particularly prefer long days more than short days or vice versa. It's not like you don't have enough time to post what's needed, but you'll have to be observant about the time and not stay afk for more than a day. On the other side, it makes for a much more "action-packed" experience.

When I hosted my first game on myanimelist.com, I didn't even know forum mafia was even a thing, so I thought I had come up with something unique xD (I had only played mafia IRL)
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:45 am

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In post 16, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:what sites did you play on, choof?

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz ... y.php?f=47

also playing my first game on a second site, 48/24 day/night phases
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:32 pm

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In post 0, choof wrote:so, I'm sure that the people I've played with on mafiascum have gone crazy because of my antics (aka bad play in regards to how mafia is played on mafiascum), and I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. the two sites I currently play mafia on use 72 hour day phases, 24 hour night phases, so everything is very fast paced: craziness is encouraged because it's easier to exploit someone's emotions when they're being attacked with non-stop posts and/or plays that don't fit into a supposed win-con. it's easier to slip up when you're trying to keep up with someone attacking you in a short game than a long game.

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and to those that have played with me, or are going to inevitably read my meta due to this thread, godspeed


the original site I played on had 12 hour days and 12 hour nights so i can relate.

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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:36 am

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In post 18, choof wrote:
In post 16, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:what sites did you play on, choof?

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz ... y.php?f=47

also playing my first game on a second site, 48/24 day/night phases


holy shit, flashflashrevolution has a mafia subforum?

I used to play this a long time ago (just checked, my ffr rating is still above 50k EDIT: 68k out of 1.9m)
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:39 am

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In post 4, choof wrote:it's not related to any games in particular but it is related to my gameplay because I feel like I'm really fuckin bad at mafia in the form it's presented on this site

used to play at 10 minutes days for 3 years. ull get used to it :P
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:37 am

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I think you just gradually get used to it. Where I used to play we had twenty four hour phases for day and night. So it has been quite a jump having two week phases. However, slowly I am beginning to see the beauty in it and the quick games I used to play are now not detailed enough. I worried that there would be nothing to talk about but there is always something. I think it makes you more involved in the game as well, since you are dedicating so much time to the game, you become more invested in the results.
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