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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:14 am

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In post 49, kuribo wrote:I have two alts, both of which are gimmicks:

kuribo the white- my non-raging alt that didn't last long with that gimmick
Erotic Tales of kuribo- my alt that posts only in the form of erotic stories

I also have a couple of hydras: Serotonin (with GreyICE), Hammer Bros (Quilford), Heaven and Hell (pirate mollie), Serene (DGB and Fate), Serene2 (DGB and Fakegod), and Three-Pronged Trouser God (Untrod Tripod and T-Bone)

And that one hydra that we never got to use.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:16 am

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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:11 pm

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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:42 pm

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BUT but
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:44 am

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In post 39, Oversoul wrote:I have a moral code that when I do play a newbie game on an alt, I only play in a slot that my actual account would be able to play. This often means I have to replace into newbies as an alt if I want to play newbies.

Your moral code is the same as site rules, so well done! :P

(No one reading this should join newbies from scratch when you're not a newbie, unless your alt has played enough games to qualify as an SE/IC.)
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:30 am

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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:13 am

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In post 54, Mina wrote:
In post 39, Oversoul wrote:I have a moral code that when I do play a newbie game on an alt, I only play in a slot that my actual account would be able to play. This often means I have to replace into newbies as an alt if I want to play newbies.

Your moral code is the same as site rules, so well done! :P

(No one reading this should join newbies from scratch when you're not a newbie, unless your alt has played enough games to qualify as an SE/IC.)


It wasn't always like that. :oops:
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:24 am

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my alts are all outlined in my wiki. They exist for hydra-ing, laughter, and neighbors

I got no problem with people that play as alts as long as they are not ban evading
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:29 pm

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Still here to say the fact that mods can look up player alts in games and play with that knowledge over non-mods is really bullshit
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:26 pm

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Has that come up?
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:37 pm

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I can think of one example where a mod and a secret (I think it was secret?) alt were alive in a game together, but I probably can't reveal it because the mod was playing with a secret alt too!
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:44 am

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In post 58, xRECKONERx wrote:Still here to say the fact that mods can look up player alts in games and play with that knowledge over non-mods is really bullshit


Can a game mod do that?

I know if you have game experience requirements you may want to know a main account so that you know an alt is qualified, but that requires the alt to reveal. As far as I know a mod doesn't have any kind of special power to actually look that up.

If a game doesn't have an experience requirement, a mod should not be asking for alt identities period.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:45 am

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game mods can't, but listmods can. It's really confusing they have basically the same name.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:53 am

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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:11 am

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It's one of the reasons why mods shouldn't play with their players.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:17 am

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In post 47, mastin2 wrote:Oh, yeah.
Claiming to be a newbie is borderline unethical. When I make alts, I make sure to play them in a manner where my experience is left ambiguous, and if asked, I come up with a way to say, "I have some."

Claiming to be just an alt or a single person when a hydra IS unethical and borderline illegal.
...Claiming to be a hydra when it's just you as an alt, though, is just being stupid. :P
(Yes, I am guilty of this. :shifty: Not my proudest moment.)


Don't tell me Whiskers is one of your alts.

In post 59, KittyMo wrote:Has that come up?


Yes.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:36 am

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In post 59, KittyMo wrote:Has that come up?
I remember a game where chamber replaced out because he learned of an alt's main accidentally.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:58 am

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No answer?
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:31 pm

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I made an alt for the first time a while back. I enjoyed the fresh start it gave me and may make more over the summer.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:10 pm

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In post 67, Egg wrote:No answer?
Naturally not.

As a guideline, I never respond to questions about what alts may be mine, and vice-versa, don't answer questions about who my main would be. (Guideline, not rule, though.)

To demonstrate, I'm kinda sorta breaking the rule by talking about Mortal Kombat Mafia.
The cursed Palisade hydra was in fact a legitimate hydra. Just one that was eternally cursed to have its members abandon the game and leave a singular head driving. Including Mortal Kombat, where it was me as an alt, but I still FAKED having my partner around.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:56 am

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I have one secret alt, which is still standing (save for I think 3 people who know it). it sucks because I'm fairly sure that to this point I've played better on said alt than my actual main. = =

I found it was a good way to get all my confidence back, bc I had made it after a string of games where I generally played pretty bad and I wound up completely destroying the scum team the first time I used it. other than that, it was useful bc I was able to try out a different kind of playstyle and not have anyone question it.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:10 am

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In post 58, xRECKONERx wrote:Still here to say the fact that mods can look up player alts in games and play with that knowledge over non-mods is really bullshit

Ha! This exact thing came up in game for me once.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5620010
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:52 am

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In post 69, mastin2 wrote:I still FAKED having my partner around.


This right here is terrible. Way to take advantage of a mechanic not available to other, single players. Yet another reason to despise hydras. I'm disappointed in you, mastina.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:17 am

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In post 58, xRECKONERx wrote:Still here to say the fact that mods can look up player alts in games and play with that knowledge over non-mods is really bullshit


IMO thats something you should get force-replaced from a game for doing. Either do it and reveal to the thread or don't do it at all. (or do what chamber did and replace out yourself)
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:26 am

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Game mods cannot do so unless they had that information revealed to them by the player. Listmods can (as well as Discussion Mods). They shouldn't be doing that to specifically gain an advantage in the game and should replace out if they did do that, but checking people's alts is something that is absolutely necessary to performing the duties of those jobs. I know lots of people's alt account identities just from the course of my job as an admin and my past one as a listmod. It's possible in the future I'll end up in a game with an unknown alt. That's potentially unfair, but in an environment with secret alts, that's how it has to be.

Consider that some people know the identities to secret alts while others don't. Let's say in scum chat the secret alt mentions it off-hand. In a future game, the secret alt is in it with the person who knows the secret alt's identity. Should that person be forced to leave the game? Should he or she reveal the information to everyone? It's certainly not a level playing field.
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