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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:41 am

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In post 169, Davsto wrote:I'm like decently sure that alts have to confirm their identity to the mod of a game they join..?


Not really no.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:44 am

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depends on the mod
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:10 am

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In post 175, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 169, Davsto wrote:I'm like decently sure that alts have to confirm their identity to the mod of a game they join..?


Not really no.

if you don't vet the alts, you kinda' deserve whatever havoc they wreak
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:40 pm

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In post 177, Antihero wrote:
In post 175, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 169, Davsto wrote:I'm like decently sure that alts have to confirm their identity to the mod of a game they join..?


Not really no.

if you don't vet the alts, you kinda' deserve whatever havoc they wreak


There's no real way too unless you have experience requirements, and if they meet those requirements... well... Yeah.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:40 pm

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...but there is...

you ask them who they are...
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:42 pm

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In post 179, Antihero wrote:...but there is...

you ask them who they are...


Uhhh, I don't assume anyone signing up for my game is an alt and I don't have the tools to check?

Isn't the idea that they're not meant to be known anyway? (I don't see the point in asking because I don't expect someone to say yeah I'm an alt of x when the entire purpose of their existence is to conceal the identity of their main?)
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:48 pm

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...but you do... it's called "private messaging"

they're supposed to be not known to the other players, not the mod.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:50 pm

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In post 181, Antihero wrote:...but you do... it's called "private messaging"

they're supposed to be not known to the other players, not the mod.


But that defeats the purpose of an alt because I know who they are if I end up in a game with them now...

I guess I don't really understand what the purpose of allowing alts even is if they're somehow required to disclose who they are to a mod who asks.

And I'm supposed to PM everyone to make sure they're not an alt? (I don't care unless I have reason to care, and if I have reason to care I'm not expecting an honest answer when I ask anyway.) I... have better things to do with my time.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:51 pm

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i mean... there's certain markers you look for. like a recent join date and an absence of newbie games. gimmick-y or weird themed usernames is another one to look for.

it really isn't that difficult a task.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:53 pm

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You're not going to weed out all the alts. Do you want to weed out just the honest ones?
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:53 pm

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alts are kinda' a one-time deal thing anyway, not a long-term thing.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:55 pm

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In post 184, Ythan wrote:You're not going to weed out all the alts. Do you want to weed out just the honest ones?

i'm not saying "weed out alts." i'm saying, "try to know who's joining your game."
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:57 pm

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In post 186, Antihero wrote:
In post 184, Ythan wrote:You're not going to weed out all the alts. Do you want to weed out just the honest ones?

i'm not saying "weed out alts." i'm saying, "try to know who's joining your game."

And you're specifically talking about finding out which ones are alts so my comment could not be any more relevant a response.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:57 pm

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In post 186, Antihero wrote:
In post 184, Ythan wrote:You're not going to weed out all the alts. Do you want to weed out just the honest ones?

i'm not saying "weed out alts." i'm saying, "try to know who's joining your game."

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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:06 pm

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In post 186, Antihero wrote:
In post 184, Ythan wrote:You're not going to weed out all the alts. Do you want to weed out just the honest ones?

i'm not saying "weed out alts." i'm saying, "try to know who's joining your game."


If a player is otherwise qualified, I'm not going to doubt their credentials. That's somewhat disrespectful. No amount of work is going to weed out the alts I would be trying to weed out anyway, and weeding out the ones that aren't a problem is unnecessary.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:09 pm

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it's not disrespectful at all. it's part of quality control.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:22 pm

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I don't see how one follows from the other.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:23 pm

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But again there isn't any true quality control because the players I am intending to filter out are not going to be honest to my inquires.

The only situation where they would need to disclose is if the alt has no prior game experience and my game has one. (An experience requirement.) Other than that, I don't see how asking everyone is going to produce the kind of quality control you are talking about.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:25 pm

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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:19 pm

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If a mod sets a rule "no alts" and then alts join that's fucked up and they should probably be penalized? (Again this is why secret alts are dumb and shouldn't be allowed)
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:33 pm

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In post 194, xRECKONERx wrote:(Again this is why secret alts are dumb and shouldn't be allowed)

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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:39 pm

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In post 194, xRECKONERx wrote:(Again this is why secret alts are dumb and shouldn't be allowed)


said the secret alt
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