Bussing: When is it Logical to Consider?

[Dwlee99]

If you're criticizing my scum play, I have yet to lose a game as scum on site or even be lynched in one.

If you're criticizing my town play, I note that you as town couldn't catch me as scum... but I caught you as scum when I was town.

This statement is a lie

[RadiantCowbells]

shh

[Dwlee99]

shh

shshshshhhshshhhh

[kuribo]

Here's how I used to do it, it's a two step process

1. Is my partner alive?

2. If yes, tunnel him

[RadiantCowbells]

used to?

pfft heathen.

[kuribo]

used to?

pfft heathen.

well i mean


i quit playing


so i don't really bus anymore

[Alchemist21]

TIL RC isn't crazy, he's just ahead of the curve.

Also, just to parrot what others said, weigh the pros and cons beforehand, and always be mindful of the long-term effects of your actions. Doing something dumb D1 can screw you and/or your partner for the rest of the game.

[Dwlee99]

I feel like no one looked at the game I posted whee yuriko bussed me super hard and won.

[Radiant Moonlight]

You should see my EPM bus in NY184.

We lost a member D1 and I decided to hard bus him D2 to the point of saying that I was going to prod dodge and refuse to post until he got lynched.

I won autoloss

[SilverWolf]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=63646

Here's a newbie where bussing worked. D1 OceanWind bussed GM and the reason it worked was because he started pushing her early and was early on her wagon and even went so far as to ask me to stay on this wagon when I was wavering.

Like usually D1 lynch on your partner is a bad idea, but this made me pretty confident at the end it wasn't OceanWind so at lylo I didn't vote him and he won.

I still don't think I'd bus my buddy D1 in a newbie like that unless he/she was going down anyway just for the fact you have to get through so many mislynches after that to win but he got himself a ton of towncred for that.

[kuribo]

Graveyard shift

Me and DGB bussed Jordan so hard that he was able to coast to endgame while literally taking weeks between posts

I bussed him so hard people legit thought I was just being a dick to pick on him, so when I flipped scum, they all cleared him by virtue of me tunneling him

[kuribo]

I mean it's situational, you shouldn't bus if you're in a good position or too early

But you gotta make up your mind early on, otherwise good town players can tell when you're changing your read to follow the wind

[BROseidon]

Graveyard shift

Me and DGB bussed Jordan so hard that he was able to coast to endgame while literally taking weeks between posts

I bussed him so hard people legit thought I was just being a dick to pick on him, so when I flipped scum, they all cleared him by virtue of me tunneling him

In all fairness, everyone that game was being an absolute moron.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also how the hell my slot got lynched that game.

Ya ya, mastin was being scummy but she really wasn't.

[BROseidon]

Graveyard shift

Me and DGB bussed Jordan so hard that he was able to coast to endgame while literally taking weeks between posts

I bussed him so hard people legit thought I was just being a dick to pick on him, so when I flipped scum, they all cleared him by virtue of me tunneling him

In all fairness, everyone that game was being an absolute moron.

[kuribo]

Also how the hell my slot got lynched that game.

Ya ya, mastin was being scummy but she really wasn't.

your slot's lynch was mainly a combination of my personality and game mechanics. people on the other shift were barely paying attention

I also assumed part of it was just to test my claim and put together concrete evidence against me because I'm nearly impossible to lynch


plus people being morons. mastin wasn't scummy, not really.

[BROseidon]

I mean, I was confirmed town and kept saying to lynch you and not AP.

It didn't work because people are stupid.

[Untrod Tripod]

Maybe playing like a crazy person is an incredibly smart way to play the game?

I endorse this product or service

[Untrod Tripod]

Graveyard shift

Me and DGB bussed Jordan so hard that he was able to coast to endgame while literally taking weeks between posts

I bussed him so hard people legit thought I was just being a dick to pick on him, so when I flipped scum, they all cleared him by virtue of me tunneling him

In all fairness, everyone that game was being an absolute moron.

man. I loved writing the flavor for that game

[hiplop]

Graveyard shift

Me and DGB bussed Jordan so hard that he was able to coast to endgame while literally taking weeks between posts

I bussed him so hard people legit thought I was just being a dick to pick on him, so when I flipped scum, they all cleared him by virtue of me tunneling him

hey I was there too!!!

[callforjudgement]

Something I've done in the past as scum that's been effective is, after a scumbuddy receives suspicion early and defends themself well enough to cause people to change their mind, to tunnel them even though most of the town incorrectly think they're town. If I get lynched/vigged at that point, there's basically going to be no chance of the buddy in question being suspected from then on and they can coast to endgame on it. This is different from bussing in that I don't expect the lynch on my buddy to go through; effectively, I'm bussing

myself

so that another scum will gain credibility.

I suspect this strategy doesn't work so well nowadays (especially because it may becomes visible as a tell that seems to work quite consistently for me and should be better-known: if someone is ignoring simple explanations for what is happening in the game and focusing on complex ones instead, they are probably correct and probably scum).

[Psyche]

It's so much easier to win as mafia when you rule out bussing as a strategy.

[Psyche]

Graveyard shift

Me and DGB bussed Jordan so hard that he was able to coast to endgame while literally taking weeks between posts

I bussed him so hard people legit thought I was just being a dick to pick on him, so when I flipped scum, they all cleared him by virtue of me tunneling him

goodness i hated you in that game

[Venmar]

I would always bus Psyche

[Psyche]

you'd die before me like the others