In post 16, hayatoBL wrote:2. I can think of several lies that might be town-beneficial. It depends on the situation really. I won't lynch lurkers unless it's MyLo/LyLo.
Care to explain the logic behind this? I see a multitude of issues with not killing lurkers as a policy and without being able to see your logic, it's hard to tell how you would address those issues. Also what kind of lies might be town-beneficial? I wouldn't policy lynch liars, but I would be hard-pressed to see lying as town-beneficial at all outside of very short-term reaction testing.
In post 14, notscience wrote:Pretend you couldn't hide it and you made a statement like "man i love drawing cop" and you are overzealous throughout the game. What do you think scum will do?
Speculating on who they'd nightkill is more or less a waste; just giving my read on the question, if I were scum, I wouldn't put any stock into what people state their preferred roles are, or at least not enough to let it sway my nightkill choice. Moot point regardless though.
Let's do one better and get some preliminary reads.
notscience
: no read yet. Normally I'd read the excessive, showy displays of helpfulness to newer players as scum buddying, but your "role" in this game (of sorts) as an IC requires it. You seem like the type that would struggle to lurk if he had to, so I trust that as the day moves on I'll get a better read. Asked a good sequence of questions throughout -- the initial questions seem standard fare in these games regardless of alignment, but calling attention to hayate's comment on when to lynch lurkers ostensibly is pro-town.
Eden
: hundred thousand hundred trillion percent town #TYBG
DizzyDotRocks
: slightly suspicious. The posting style rubs me the wrong way a little bit, seems more like someone who wants everyone to get along instead of someone hunting down scum, but it's early and I know people who play town much less combatively than I do. It's slightly weird that she said she preferred not to RVS, but then put a vote down anyway; especially after I said the same and pointedly didn't vote, why the eagerness to conform? I like the initiative in asking hayate about what kind of lies are okay in his book though, I had the same question.
HighShroomish
: no read yet. Concerning how many games he has going all at once, but that might be standard here for all I know. Took a hard stance against killing lurkers on principle, and everything else is really soft stuff; nothing steering me one way or another.
hayatoBL
: slightly suspicious. Why so eager to tell us all that his vote isn't serious? He might as well be holding a neon sign saying "I'm trying to do something without actually having an impact on the game." Only answer of note is the one I called out earlier; answer to that will tell me where I want to go to start this game.
Android122
: no read yet. I definitely disagree with his take on liars; they might momentarily make the game more interesting, but the implication that this is apparently okay or a reason not to kill them is plain wrong. "Interesting" play at the expense of sound play is a losing bet nine times out of 10, and the 10th time is a fluke. There's plenty of other ways to make a game interesting. All other answers were safe.
jaye
: no read yet. Nothing jumped out at me worth commenting on; everything said was essentially what someone else said before, but that's not indicative of anything yet.
asdfhillary, TCold
: have not posted yet.
two real suspects right now are DDR and hayato, but no one else has really established themselves as clearly town yet, and I don't necessarily think DDR and hayato are mafia together if one of them actually does flip mafia; that's just where I would go right now based on what we've seen thus far.