Newbie 1547 - Mafia of Philosophical Extremes: GAME OVER!

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Newbie 1547 - Mafia of Philosophical Extremes: GAME OVER!

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:10 am

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Newbie 1547: Mafia of Philosophical Extremes

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There are four classic philosoophical extremes: Monism, Dualism, Eternalism, and Nihilism. This contest is based upon the final two, in extreme manifestations Necessitarianism and Absurdism. To Necessitarian Town, there is but one way the universe can exist. This one. All else is empty thought experiment. To absurdist Mafia, the quest for meaning and order is doomed to fail because the sheer amount of information is beyond human ability to process, and the vast and limitless depths of the Unknown dwarf what could be known were we able to grasp it.

Two schools of philosophy enter. One will leave.


Welcome to Newbie 1547!

Player List (9)


Whomping Willow
Honest

VysePresident
ToddBellington

davesaz
Kerma

Prohawk
krylea 1

Hannibal6
BRantz
theslimer3 (SE)
Hostile Intent
temphdq
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Evil Regals 1 (IC)


Spoiler: Alive
Whomping Willow
VysePresident
davesaz
ProHawk
BRantz
Hostile Intent


Spoiler: Dead

Hannibal6,
Vanilla Townie
, was
theslimer3,
Vanilla Townie
, was
Evil Regls
Mafia Goon
, was



Spoiler: Modkilled
None..ever


Spoiler: Vote Counter Settings
Living PlayersWhomping Willow (replaces Honest)
VysePresident (replaces ToddBellington)
davesaz (replaces Kerma)
ProHawk (replaces krylea)
BRantz
Hostile Intent (replaces temphdq)


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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:12 am

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Voting and Deadlines:



1. Voting must be bolded in the form
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VOTE: Player vote tags

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[vote]Player[/vote]


or else they will not be counted. Unvotes are not required to change your vote, but they are helpful. Please note: I'm using an automated vote counter. If you don't use the vote tags, be sure to add a colon after the word "Vote".

2. I don't mind if you use nicknames/abbreviations when you vote someone. But if I have no idea who you're voting for, then the vote won't be counted. Please note: the vote counting application may be more finicky about nicknames than I am. If you notice that your vote hasn't been recorded, please let me know.

3. Lynches require a majority of votes: (number of living players/2) +1, rounded down.

4. If there's no majority at deadline, there's no lynch.

5. When the hammer vote is cast, all players, including the lynched may talk freely until the final vote count and lynched player's cardflip have been posted. I will lock the game thread at that time.

6. When you are hammered, on the following day, you may make a "bah" post with no game-relevant information. Nothing more.

7. Deadlines are set at two weeks and extensions will only be given in the most extreme of circumstances.


Prods and Replacements:



1. Prods will be given if you do not post in
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. Weekends count as a single full day in determining if a prod is due.

2. You will be replaced if you either do not respond to a prod, or need to be prodded more than 3 times total. You may request for a player to be prodded at any time, but the less you request, the happier your mod is. Prods requested when a player has been absent for less than 48 hours do not count for replacement purposes.

3. If you're V/LA, make sure I know. If you are V/LA for more than a week, I'd suggest requesting replacement, but that's not required. If a lengthy V/LA is adversely affecting the game (e.g., if you are not able to post minimally during that time), then your mod may replace you.without penalty.


Misc.



1. Dark Blue (#004080) is the color I will use for mod posts. Please don’t use this color or otherwise try to make your posts look like mod posts..

2. You can talk about the game in the private threads given to you via PM. Otherwise, please refrain from talking about this game outside of this thread, and don't talk about other games inside of this game. This is a sitewide rule. See announcement here.

3. No editing, deleting, using invisible texts, write in code, etc...

4. Don't quote or talk about any mod-recieved PMs. Your flavor is for you to enjoy and you only until the end of the game.

5. I make mistakes. If you notice I make one, please let me know.

6. Questions are vastly preferable to Modkills. If you're thinking about to do something that you're unsure is within the letter or spirit of these rules and the game of mafia, then tell me about it.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:13 am

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Newbie Setup


Matrix6 (as designed by Cogito Ergo Sum):


ABC
1Town JailkeeperVanilla TownieMafia Goon
2Mafia RoleblockerTown CopTown Doctor
3Town 1-shot

Bulletproof
Mafia GoonTown Tracker


Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates either one row or one column. The remaining six roles will be filled in by mafia goons and vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup. For example Row 1 (1 jailkeeper, 1 vanilla townie, 1 mafia goon) would add an additional 5 vanilla townies and 1 mafia goon, for a total setup of 1 jailkeeper, 6 vanilla townies, and 2 mafia goons.


*Roleblocker will take precedence over jailkeeper when resolving night actions should that apply.



Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
Vanilla TownieWelcome!


You are a
Vanilla Townie
.


You have no special abilities.


You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.



The game thread is here.


Town JailkeeperWelcome!


You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.


You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.


You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.



The game thread is here.


Town CopWelcome!


You are a
Town Cop
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You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.


You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.



The game thread is here.


Town DoctorWelcome!


You are a
Town Doctor
.


You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.


You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.



The game thread is here.


1-shot Bulletproof TownieWelcome!


You are a
1-shot Bulletproof Townie.



You will survive 1 kill attempt during the game. This does not include lynches.


You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.



The game thread is here.


Town TrackerWelcome!


You are a
Town Tracker
.


You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player they targeted with their action, if any.


You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.



The game thread is here.


Mafia GoonWelcome!


You are a
Mafia Goon
.


Your partner is PLAYER, who is a
Mafia Goon/Roleblocker
.


You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional private thread, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.


You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.



The game thread is here.


Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!


You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.


Your partner is PLAYER, who is a
Mafia Goon
.


You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.


You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional private thread, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.


You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.
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The game thread is here.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:08 am

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Role PMs have been sent! This thread will open and the game will start when at least 7 players have confirmed via PM!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:01 am

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I'm short the necessary 7 confirmations. I'll give it a few more hours before seeking some replacements. The game should be started by tonight at the latest.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:59 am

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Vote Count 1.1
Day 1 begins!


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I call him free who is led solely by reason.

Baruch Spinoza


Not voting (9):
Honest, ToddBellington, Kerma, krylea, Hannibal6, BRantz, theslimer3, temphdq, Evil Regals

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: November 5, Midnight Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2014-11-04 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- ToddBellington and temphdq will be replaced in 24 hours if they don't post in the game thread by then.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:09 am

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First!
Im a black cat anyway.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:11 am

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Second!

VOTE: Honest because anyone with a name like that has gotta be a liar.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:19 am

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I've never started an RQS before so let's have a little fun

1.
Have you ever played any offsite games?

2.
What role did you expect to get?

3.
Which is worse, lying, or being passive about a bad situation?

4.
On a scale of 1-10 how well can you lie?

5.
Do you know any players here?

6.
Games last around 1-2 months. Do you think you'll be here for the rest of the game? It really helps if we could all stay together for at least day one. Could you do that for Slimer? Please? :3
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:25 am

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Ehhhhhh, based on the last game I was in I am reeeeally not sold on RQS.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:28 am

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VOTE: theslimer3 for being a helpful SE.

Question answers:
1. Yes, I used to play a lot on another site, but haven't played in 5 or 6 years.
2. I expected to get vanilla townie because that is the most common role in the game.
3. I think it greatly depends on the purpose of the lie. But in general being passive is probably worse.
4. 7
5. Nope
6. I have no plans to leave this game before conclusion, unless I am dead (lynched/ nk'd)
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:32 am

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Krylea, what do you have against RQS to get discussion started?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:39 am

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In post 9, krylea wrote:Ehhhhhh, based on the last game I was in I am reeeeally not sold on RQS.

Actually I can prove you wrong pretty quickly

In post 10, BRantz wrote:VOTE: theslimer3 for being a helpful SE.

Question answers:
1. Yes, I used to play a lot on another site, but haven't played in 5 or 6 years.
2. I expected to get vanilla townie because that is the most common role in the game.
3. I think it greatly depends on the purpose of the lie. But in general being passive is probably worse.
4. 7
5. Nope
6. I have no plans to leave this game before conclusion, unless I am dead (lynched/ nk'd)

2. He said "expected". That could raise quite a few questions already
3. I could ask him why being passive is better and give a scenario where being passive makes things worse.

That could spark all types of questions. And his answers might even surprise you.



Now RVS is something I don't really like and you'll rarely ever see me participating in that
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:41 am

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In post 12, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 9, krylea wrote:Ehhhhhh, based on the last game I was in I am reeeeally not sold on RQS.

Actually I can prove you wrong pretty quickly

In post 10, BRantz wrote:VOTE: theslimer3 for being a helpful SE.

Question answers:
1. Yes, I used to play a lot on another site, but haven't played in 5 or 6 years.
2. I expected to get vanilla townie because that is the most common role in the game.
3. I think it greatly depends on the purpose of the lie. But in general being passive is probably worse.
4. 7
5. Nope
6. I have no plans to leave this game before conclusion, unless I am dead (lynched/ nk'd)

2. He said "expected". That could raise quite a few questions already
3. I could ask him why being passive is better and give a scenario where being passive makes things worse.

That could spark all types of questions. And his answers might even surprise you.



Now RVS is something I don't really like and you'll rarely ever see me participating in that

EBWOP: Lying makes things worse*

EBWOP means Edit by way of post. Which is a way of saying I'm editing what I'm saying because the one I've said before was flawed.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:55 am

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I said expected because you asked what we expected to get.

I think being passive in a bad situation is better than lying to obfuscate information or confuse people in those same situations.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:57 am

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In post 8, theslimer3 wrote:I've never started an RQS before so let's have a little fun

1.
Have you ever played any offsite games?

2.
What role did you expect to get?

3.
Which is worse, lying, or being passive about a bad situation?

4.
On a scale of 1-10 how well can you lie?

5.
Do you know any players here?

6.
Games last around 1-2 months. Do you think you'll be here for the rest of the game? It really helps if we could all stay together for at least day one. Could you do that for Slimer? Please? :3


1. Yes.
2. Not answering this because its a fishing expedition.
3. Both lying and passive. Expession of guilt.
4. Horrible. So a 2~ Once cracked up when asked in F2F mafia to the question what is your role, after being investigated. (I was scum there!)
5. Yes, you & Kyrlea.
6. Yep! Fery is the best mod ever<33!
Have
you
ever considered that, perhaps, maybe,
I am
good?
I was always the Queen, it was
you
who added "Evil" to my name.


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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:59 am

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Also im your friendly IC -- at the moment im mobile and will not be home until late so IC blurb will have to wait unless I can pull up mine on the Mala draft acc~

VOTE: slimer

For the fishing expedition in your RVS.
Have
you
ever considered that, perhaps, maybe,
I am
good?
I was always the Queen, it was
you
who added "Evil" to my name.


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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:00 am

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In post 11, BRantz wrote:Krylea, what do you have against RQS to get discussion started?

I was about to discuss this based on past games and then I realized I can't talk about ongoing games and that game hasn't ended yet so disregard that entirely.

In post 12, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 9, krylea wrote:Ehhhhhh, based on the last game I was in I am reeeeally not sold on RQS.

Actually I can prove you wrong pretty quickly

In post 10, BRantz wrote:VOTE: theslimer3 for being a helpful SE.

Question answers:
1. Yes, I used to play a lot on another site, but haven't played in 5 or 6 years.
2. I expected to get vanilla townie because that is the most common role in the game.
3. I think it greatly depends on the purpose of the lie. But in general being passive is probably worse.
4. 7
5. Nope
6. I have no plans to leave this game before conclusion, unless I am dead (lynched/ nk'd)

2. He said "expected". That could raise quite a few questions already
3. I could ask him why being passive is better and give a scenario where being passive makes things worse.

That could spark all types of questions. And his answers might even surprise you.



Now RVS is something I don't really like and you'll rarely ever see me participating in that


I find your distaste for RVS confusing as RVS seems to be one of the single best ways to find scum imo. I suppose you are right though, I can see how some of those questions could be useful, and if everyone else wants RQS then I will accede to the majority.

Answers:
1. No
2. SK obviously
3. Lying for sure, almost all lies hurt town. Passive play also hurts town but can be counteracted by pressuring passive players whereas town lying will either lead to town working off false information or a townie getting lynched for lying.
4. 5
5. No, though I was in another game with ER
6. Yes, I expect to be here for the rest of this game
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:05 am

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About to rage murder my phone. Hold pls.

In post 9, Malakittens wrote:IC Intro~

* I'll be your IC for this game and when I mean IC I'm inexperienced challenge which means I been around the site for a while.

What does this entail for you?


I will teach you everything you need to know. Ask me questions, however many they are and I'll answer them.

I can not and will not lie to you about theory or setup.

Suggest reading for Newbies:


This link will teach you all about the basic roles.

This link will give you some rules about mafia.

This link might help answer some questions about mafia. (feel free to ask me - I don't bite)

Other important things:


Even though it's covered in . I'll go over some friendly coding tags.

To vote use the code:

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[v] <Name> [/v]


To unvote, you may either vote another player or:

Code: Select all

[unvote] <Name> [/unvote]


To Use Spoilers


These are best used for if your post has become too large. It will hide your text.

To code it use:

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[spoiler=<Title>] <text> [/spoiler]

~~This part is important~~


^*^ Do not claim unless there's intent to hammer when you are at L-1. ^*^

^*^ Do not fake claim as town. If you are not a PR do not claim anything other than what's stated in the title of your role PM. This is really anti-town and will get you lynched. ^*^

^*^ State intent to hammer when someone is at L-1 and do not hammer without waiting for a claim. ^*^

^*^ Do not self vote. ^*^

^*^ We always lynch Day 1 on this site. ^*^

Added Code tags for clarity ~JS
Have
you
ever considered that, perhaps, maybe,
I am
good?
I was always the Queen, it was
you
who added "Evil" to my name.


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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:10 am

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Slimer you better answer your own RQS.
Have
you
ever considered that, perhaps, maybe,
I am
good?
I was always the Queen, it was
you
who added "Evil" to my name.


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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:11 am

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In post 19, Evil Regals wrote:Slimer you better answer your own RQS.

Seconding that
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:22 am

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I will I will. And also explain why I didn't follow through on my RQS analysis on Rantz once I get back to my pc
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:56 am

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1. Have you ever played any offsite games?
2. What role did you expect to get?
3. Which is worse, lying, or being passive about a bad situation?
4. On a scale of 1-10 how well can you lie?
5. Do you know any players here?
6. Games last around 1-2 months. Do you think you'll be here for the rest of the game? It really helps if we could all stay together for at least day one. Could you do that for Slimer? Please? :3


1. Couple of times. Then i looked for some tips and found this website.
2. Vanilla town.
3. Being passive about a bad situation.
4. 5
5. No.
6. I'm in for the long haul.

VOTE: ToddBellington because he's trying to win favour using a real name.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:42 am

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In post 22, Honest wrote:
1.
VOTE: ToddBellington because he's trying to win favour using a real name.


That's a really stupid reason to vote for me.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:50 am

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Why so defensive about the vote Todd? Also why ignore the questions that everyone has been answering?

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