Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

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waiting for u to get me to care shirou

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VOTE: Shirou

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i think if shirou actually scumread me he would be much louder about it if so, the fact he isn't and just fucking around is actually concerning me.
so his scumread on me looks like he just made it up to placate my concerns about how he always scumreads me without having to do the effort of actually replicating his town behavior of vigorously going after me.

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ur case on me and titus aligned because I just said that i didn't want to vote titus?
U said i was scum way before i stopped voting titus.

U don't even have events right here buddy

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In fact.

In our last game together where I was town and you were scum, I spent a lot of the game suspecting you but never *quite* going for your head and you ended up endgaming me.

So what are you talking about?

My main scum read right now is clearly Titus and that's who I would want to focus especially now that I know as a fact I'm gonna be around for D3.

yeah and you had reasons you talked about throughout the whole game. Here ur just joking around, and also to add onto this to prove my point, the reason you didn't death tunnel me in those was you had a bigger person to focus on. Yet here, your doing nothing until just now and ur focused on Titus.

Now ur making up reasons why me and titus are aligned because i just now said I don't want to vote Titus. Awfully conveniant.

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VOTE: Snivy

didn't see the post prior

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which part

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I was too drunk to remember our time in Venice

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are those stupposed to be cat whiskers

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im personally never tired of drama

watch me start drama right now

ydrasse ur new shirt is lame

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This game really has already tired me out

I really, really, really want to mostly chill in my next game until D4 or so at least

you realize we win by eliminating scum tomorrow right

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My reading comprehension is low

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im thinking of just sheeping jjh

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fire u never told me this is why my scumgame sucked

I don't want u to improve ur scum game

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i forgot to rate ur avi shirou,
i give it a 0

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jjh isn't even voting. how am i supposed to sheep without a vote to follow!

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i forgot to rate ur avi shirou,
i give it a 0

shockers

I used to think you had good taste

im sorry for giving you this mistaken belief about me

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jjh isn't even voting. how am i supposed to sheep without a vote to follow!

you can always consult who to vote for in the scum PT

say hi to the homies there for me if you do

or you could just tell me here

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wow shirou likes arcanine more than growlithe. what is this

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i have an allergy to reading pts, i told u this before

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can i double vote u

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i think im done for the night. cya all tomorrow

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If you want to eliminate town you can sheep me yes

it's a pretty good method when I'm kinda lost in the game

i disagree ur better at hunting when ur lost imo

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burns the ice around ydrasse

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VOTE: Titus

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everybody gets one

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firebringer writing in his death note:
StD hit by a prius at 8 pm while on a unicycle

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speaking of which, {jjh927, std, andres, imaginality} are in my poe, i could compromise on {T3, Prism} but i dont think we'll get there

Yeah one of T3 and Prism is definitely scum here

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im gonna look into prism and t3 isos later

also lol lazy shirou

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im busy playing archipelogo, ill be back to this in the morning

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speaking of which, {jjh927, std, andres, imaginality} are in my poe, i could compromise on {T3, Prism} but i dont think we'll get there

Yeah one of T3 and Prism is definitely scum here

I am inclined to agree.

i went back and read day 1 and don't think its prism

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I don't think StD reaction to being pushed is scum!StD. Last scum game I played with him when he was pushed he just shut down, here he isn't. By shut down i just meant he went to lurking giving extremely little responses here he seems intent on arguing. I don't think he looks good with his not push on camel but his play outside that seems like his town play to me.

Disagree with this push jjh

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if both imaginality and camel were scum, did they think camel leaving would make people think imaginality was more likely town for being counter to Titus?

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It's time for the people to seize back control. The coastal elites think being loud is enough to erode this country's moral values. It's time for the silent majority to fight back. Tune in tonight on Tucker Carlson as he takes on jjh and Prism.

Prefer alex jones telling me about how jjh and prism are turning the frogs gay

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I can find you a scumgame where he doesn't do that

you can link me but if im being honest i think ive played with StD many more times than u

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who reads in mafia

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I'm curious as to what you think of camel's side of interactions. I think it is very likely there is one scum in gob/Andres, and right now I'm thinking it is Andres.

I just went back into camel iso and the way he treated andres is a bit strange, when he thought andres getting replaced he just put a vote there and let it hang and then when came back unvoted and then put in highest townreads. It could have been a soft buss early when others were not having andres townie or something. There is no reason given for the reads (like most reads snivy gives).

Ill look into andres half and gob later.
I owe gob a relook because ive just been assuming he and i will not see eye to eye this game and that means he is town. Kind of like how defcon played out

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i was in that game and said StD was looking weird

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@jjh pushed there he reacts by just restating opinion and that he is town, here he is actually more engaged in talking to the person pushing him. I think its pretty different the way he talks about how he is town in that game and just restates opinions then how he reacts to u and prism here.

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just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean i haven't answered the question

like this is post i don't think scum std makes

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VOTE: STD

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Firebringer- who made a meta argument that he would retreat more as scum and that he'd engage more, in a way I don't think holds up to scrutiny because A. STD's responses that he liked were more the result of having the same questions relentlessly asked and he is probably bitter with me regardless of his alignment, and B. He has literally retreated again after he was done defending himself.

i mean std could be gone because of you know personal/activity that isn't alignment indicative but i see ur point

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camels interactions aren't very useful from what i looked at but his voting and who voted him probably tells u the most about associations.

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mod i am very busy with work stuff consider me v/la till friday night

@StD i think my townread of you has been superficial and I think town you would put me in your scum pool at this point. I also didn't like your interactions with camel when i went back to it.

I also told the scum team we are definitely killing shirou here to save him from himself.
So your welcome shirou

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hello i am very tired and mapping out my thoughts = many words is not happening right now, how are you doing?

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Can you vote Andres while you're gone?

Whats in it for old firebringer

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VOTE: firebringer

do you want my attention or something

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why is T3 town for those of us who had to retake math three times in college

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i don't see how that can't be soft distancing given he literally changed his vote within the next page

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go back and read prism v camel day 1. Now that is spicy if its scum theatre

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why is T3 town for those of us who had to retake math three times in college

Some of us are worse. One of my proudest achievements in college was failing one math class 5 different times. On the fifth try, I got a professor who didn't know how to put an F in the system. He put in a D- instead: a passing grade.

Persistence pays off, kids.

Sounds like ur professor needed to retake Computer Science.

Well done tho

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speaking of gob, i need to reread his iso at some point. Someone remind me to do that

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Shirou TV is my favorite news program

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someone should probably save imaginality from the pool

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Shirou TV is my favorite news program

How do you feel about this game right now?

Not that great. I feel a bit dismotivated from sorting and efforting in general right now.
I think if scum is in imaginality/StD/Andres and we mislim one of those will be leaving and I do think there is probably a scum in my stronger townreads.

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Idk I still feel its T3 and possibly StD? I am really not positive on STD - I don't like his push on camel it felt like a weak a buss

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Idk I still feel its T3 and possibly StD? I am really not positive on STD - I don't like his push on camel it felt like a weak a buss

Why are you voting StD rather than T3 with me then?

nothing good happens when i sheep u tho

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jokes aside i do agree with alot of what u said on T3. I came to similar conclusions

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ehhh lets do it
VOTE: T3

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i do admire ur paranoia on me shirou, pls never change.
I consider it a big honor to be blessed with the shirou suspicions.

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only if you promise to scumread me

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not the biggest stretch even of this game. Still can't believe Titus was dead set on Ydrasse was scum for a slip that wasn't a slip

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I mean to pretend like ur doing something? U have yet to even explain the vote

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So everyone voting T3 is scummy now?

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I want to eliminate T3.

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whoever goes next via lim or escape probably helps us read Fire better. If I really am wrong about Andres then Fire could be a potential partner I think?

are u saying if andres leaves u think im scum? who do u think leaving here would help sort me.

scum me always leaves last

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sorry was busy hiding out in the scum pt

whats the reason im scum again gob. vote count analysis or something?

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towniest thing ive seen t3 do this game is just decide to move away from andres. I guess they could be aligned and doesn't want to bus

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You are not unique in that regard. I do not defer to other players' skill, purported or actual, period.

u should defter to my skill. I am super bad at this game

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yeah there is nothing for me to engage with u on this "read" gob. This is why i say vca can be construed to mean anything.

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on this day i am a butterfly

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the explaining of each vote being scummy would be a great start

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VOTE: gob

the fact gob just keeps ignoring me pushing snivy and not just arguing that i was scum bussing is like so bad faith.

all these vote count arguments are obfuscating actual analysis.
gob could be town. Idc right now. This is boring

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theres a scummy vote for u to analyze gob

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If it's something dumb like Fire/JJH or Fire/Ydra I just give up on this shit tbh

jjh should you tell him or should i

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I'll pretend to jump off a bridge if there's no scum in [StD/Imaginality/Andres/T3]

and @Gob, I agree with you that Firebringer could be scum but I just think he can also be town and the above pool is like, ?guaranteed? to have his partner.

If it's something dumb like Fire/JJH or Fire/Ydra I just give up on this shit tbh

At this point StD is not in the pool. What I said + what other people said about how StD would've left before camel, i think that's true.

I think if Andres is mafia then FIrebringer is town and vice versa. I think i actually prefer the Andres wagon to an imaginality one.

i have to again ask how you come with these assumptions/reasons.
Because i frankly don't see how me and andres couldn't be a team from your perspective if we just go on vca since i don't think ive voted andres at all in this game. What basis is there that you got to one of us is town and other has to be mafia.

Explain it like im 5

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VOTE: Shirou
bring it lets 1v1

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I would have an existential crisis if T3 is town and Gob for some reason decided it was an amazing idea to start casing Firebringer out of nowhere like that as scum

That confidence in his methods and out-of-nowhere approach, It just...looks like obvtown

This is a terrible reason to townread gob

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VOTE: Shirou
bring it lets 1v1

after i'm done with u people are gonna post our fight in r-rated websites

u don't know shit about me kid

i reported you for having a terrible avatar

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okay not goofing off since Prism doesn't enjoy these shit posts

VOTE: Gob

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naah u already won the 1v1, its not fun for others and i don't actually scumread you here. I thought us mock fighting would liven up the game with a shit post fest but prism isn't feeling it

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I still don't see how your theory can't make it so that both me and andres are town or both are scum. Like whats the line in breaking that.

But im done asking I don't think your going to make sense here and trying to pry you to give me context/understanding of how you see certain votes/actions is not getting me anywhere

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Firebringer I hope you've taken notes this game on how to troll me, gob has put on a masterclass

Might have to retake the class

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did u guys know that before pikachu, they were considering making jigglypuff the series mascot?

I don't believe this

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whats the vote count at.
ill consider andres if it helps the gamestate but i don't really think its andres

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gob ur the master of the vote counts,
what is the vca as i am to lazy to check right now

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i think u and his back and forth was a tvt

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wait if i wanted to troll u i should have dodged the question. fucking missed opportunities

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You should get more sleep

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im scum

vote: andres

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no one has a rule that u can vote without tags lol

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i just don't feel the andres wagon
and i don't even know what jjh is doing with this ydrasse push.

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that rule states it must be in bold or with a vote tag. so u counting it i would consider poor modding tbh

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ofc if dann counted it and andres flipped scum, i would rescind any complaints

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you should tell me about anime instead

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Well, we've kinda done seasonals to death

Have you seen ranking of kings

season 1, i haven't seen season 2...which i think come out awhile tbh

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if u read light novels at all. I do recommend eminence in shadow volume 6.
Cid becomes jack the ripper and dresses like the joker and goes around being a serial killer. Very fun volume to read, can't wait to see that one adapted.

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I thought about mentioning it earlier but Rankings of Kings was also a very disappointing show, started off so strong and then dipped down to a 5, where it stayed the rest of the way through.

i felt the opposite. the show started weak and got really good imo. Especially some of the characters feeling bland and one dimmensional early but were given a lot more later that made me actually care about some.

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Firebringer doesn’t think I’m Scum but refuses to push any of the slots that have been pushing me the most. What do you want me to do? I can’t be driving the game from this position. You all have to do it.

its not that im refusing but i lack the motivation/inspiration to make a good case to get everyone who thinks gob is town to actually vote gob. I am not entirely convinced of my own thinking that gob is scum. I think gob makes sense as scum and way approaching these conclusions seems like a scum move but its hard to just argue when everyone throws hands up air and like nope this is gob town.

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im just scum with everyone

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VOTE: imaginality

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VOTE: andres

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there now i can't be scum with either of them

VOTE: gob

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im making fun of ur analysis, even if i was scum here the idea that just because im not voting someone makes me scum with them is low level

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i think trying to sort for a team isn't useful. we need to get one scum and we should vote the scummiest player. Trying to figure out the whole team does nothing for us, we win if we just get one scum the other scum could deep wolf and it doesn't matter.

scum have to plan for a deep wolf play for one of them at least. Maybe its a simple game like andres/imaginality. I really doubt it on andres right now. I could maybe see imaginality, its weakest null townread ive got right now. The biggest factor of why i don't think its imaginality is the css push on imaginality didn't seem like scum distancing to me.

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VOTE: Imaginality

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I don't get the urgency when we have 3 days but maybe thats just me dealing with work deadlines pushing this game back because i got real life deadlines im way more concerned about at the moment.

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jjh put it best earlier about just voting scummiest player. All of this who will not vote who is only useful if we are wrong today. Its like going in with the thought that we will elim wrong. Which fine you can have those thoughts in back of your mind but when you put it at the forefront your just increasing your own paranoia and not useful in the current moment imo.

i said this earlier to shirou but shirou is stuck in shirou land.

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what if i want u to be

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hawt

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No, i don't believe in petitions

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im actually scum with shirou

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don't i lose if i bus andres and i'm scum with andres

Yes but for you to be scum with andres, andres would have to have rolled scum

i guess that makes 2 of us that thinks andres is town then!

kind of like how voting people u think are town just because it crosses out other people paranoia of teams is silly!!!

Who would imagine that.

Nope can't think of someone.

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It's a mafia game. We're making a lot of progress here.

have we ruled out that u and me aren't a team yet

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im not playing tic tac toe. especially on that big ass board

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ive actually never played connect 4 tbh

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see this game can be fun

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all we need is more shirou in our lives

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u can join the imaginality wagon but then u would have to stop voting me.
i wouldn't recommend it

pedit i would totally buss firebringer here.

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im here for 5 minutes what did i miss

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jjh and gob are mafia terrorists

are you coming around to gob now or is this just a joke

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we already answered that, its you.

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Not defense, per se, but when imaginality was put to E-1 Shirou pushed Andres very hard.

tbh reading Shirou's ISO I did see some towny stuff though.

shirou pushed andres hard because assumes me and andres are a team

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jjh and gob are mafia terrorists

are you coming around to gob now or is this just a joke

I will fly to your house and be your personal footstool for a day if you shoot me tonight or vote Andres

i can only do one of those two things

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he wants u to vote me or andres

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ive figured it out

if i vote andres then shirou will be convinced its not andres
VOTE: andres

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shirou will still think im scum with andres.
anyone want to bet on that

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well ur too late shirou

VOTE: imaginality

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yall too easy

second go-
VOTE: andres

who is faster gonna unvote in a minute

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FUCK

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I take all the credit here if andres is scum even though i didn't actually intend to eliminate andres

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i don't know. i don't keep track

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jjh and gob are mafia terrorists

are you coming around to gob now or is this just a joke

I will fly to your house and be your personal footstool for a day if you shoot me tonight or vote Andres

i can only do one of those two things

my favorite cheeky post i made in this game tbh Prism. Glad you enjoyed it

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jjh you were the one i was most worried about in this game. Was shocked that a wagon formed on you last day but you know paranoia and all that.

Was a fun game to play. Got to mess with shirou alot and open wolf a bit. Fun stuff
sorry to yall who got frustrated, should have had more fun talking about anime with me

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Effort IS alignment indicative to me in dunno 80% of the cases and nothing can convince me otherwise because I'm Shirou and I do not listen to others unless I'm sad

if people effort more, i will effort more. I did enough to get townread. If more pressure applied to me im going to be efforting a bit more to undo that perception that im not doing anything or im not actually sorting.

Also i was purposefully trying to get u to tunnel me so theres that

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thats a good scooby doo movie ngl