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In post 272, Pavowski wrote:
Like just trying to slide into the alleged town block rather than being like "hey quit making that town block over there"
is this how u would play it. Cause I don't think ive seen scum do this very much where they try to interject themselves into a townblock or by w/e ur suggesting.
You never saw scum try to get into a town block?
?
??
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post #286 (isolation #7) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:49 pm
Postby Pavowski »
In post 277, Firebringer wrote:
the way i imagine people say infiltrate a townblock is like someone just showing up out of the blue uninvited and going "hello fellow town players" and everyone is cool with that. I think yall are saying something else when u say infiltrate.
The grammar of this is hurting me, but I'll do my best. I do not at all get the sense oblivion is trying to infiltrate the alleged town block anyway, which is why it strikes me as towny
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post #736 (isolation #19) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:15 am
Postby Pavowski »
In post 724, Oblivion wrote:
It had a very hard day yesterday, and it has now fallen ill. It is reading along as the game goes to ensure it remains caught up, so it will not fall behind. To assist it, can players provide it things that they want its take on or ask it questions by quoting this post so it can receive notifications to respond to when it has energy again?
It would be very grateful, friends.
Thing is the game has been 98% shitposting since then
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post #808 (isolation #22) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:10 pm
Postby Pavowski »
In post 802, May wrote:
Pavowski I expect you to afk but I expect you to be like at least a little disappointed with the game trajectory if you share my alignment
Esp since you don't seem to think duck is a boring free red flip which I'm tempted to think right now
v/la
Saturday pm and all of Sunday
I don't think I've posted a single thing about the duck aside from noting it's interesting he voted me but was also willing to vote with me.
But I will cop to being a little disengaged
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
In post 799, Pavowski wrote:
Is anybody solving yet or are we still twiddling our bits?
I just wanna plan my weekend
I'm trying to push forward and get past this unusually long quasi-RVS that we're in.
What do you think of gob's posting?
My impression of gob's posting is that it's a mess
Since post #600 there's exactly one post that has anything to do with the game, which would feel scummier if you couldn't say the same about several other players here
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
In post 802, May wrote:
Pavowski I expect you to afk but I expect you to be like at least a little disappointed with the game trajectory if you share my alignment
Esp since you don't seem to think duck is a boring free red flip which I'm tempted to think right now
v/la
Saturday pm and all of Sunday
I don't think I've posted a single thing about the duck aside from noting it's interesting he voted me but was also willing to vote with me.
But I will cop to being a little disengaged
u still haven't explained why this struck u as interesting honestly I think that's just exactly how my mind works
I mean I think saying "yeah I'll vote you because I think you're scum, but I'm also willing to vote the person you're voting" feels at least a little contradictory
Granted it's d1 and reads can change on a dime, but yeah, I found that interesting
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post #892 (isolation #28) » Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:57 am
Postby Pavowski »
I feel so seen by you guys.
I really do have a tiny post count, don't I? I feel like I've had to spend most of the game catching up rather than posting back and forth with people, which I prefer. I don't do well reading back on pages and pages at a time. I'll try to give y'all some real time interactions this weekend
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
In post 860, Dannflor wrote:
i think the fixation on duck's inconsistency about voting him vs voting with him is the type of focus to come from scum more often than not, like it doesn't actually say anything about duck's alignment it's just poking holes at inconsistencies because that's easy to do. the follow up in 840 just seems to draw out the bit way too far, like town does mildly inconsistent shit like that all the time and i find it hard to believe pavowski has never encountered that before and feels it's worth pressuring like this
i also think 251 is scummy
+1
overjustifying joining a popular wagon is already a bit of an eyebrow raiser but the things he's using as justification aren't actually scumtells. I'm not a consistent person, and am very rarely consistent this early in a game. Pav knows me I don't think he's thought through this much.
To boot, despite this being the main thing of substance that his posts have been focused on he hasn't joined the wagon at any point which is another eyebrow raiser
I'd consider pav someone who's p capable of recognising even my tone and stuff and there's just nothing there to make me think he's tried to sort me so far :p there's some other quirks in his posting I can dig out which make me think he's more invested in the arguments he's making than in, like, observing alignment indicative stuff
This post particularly feels like Duckworth operating in good faith on me, like it seems like he's moreso trying to rattle my cage than actually pushing a scumread, which would be easy to do here.
I probably do need a good cage-rattling, my head is all over the place, but I won't bring too much of my meta into this
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
By this logic, if scum outdraft is we essentially are burning townies and eliminations for fun and profit to avoid hitting potential roles?
Did you miss where I said this was restricted to D1?
No, it did not. It knows any game has a limited number of town eliminations before we lose, and with two possible vigilantes in the game, burning townies is the last thing on its mind. It doesn't know if it agrees that we have a whole Day and Night cycle to give. If both Vigs are in the game and even one is in the hands of scum, the odds that both vigs hit town increase dramatically. It believes, as a result if we hit town day 1 without consideration, and then two vigs eventually remove two more town, we're at what 6-3? That leaves us with 1 elimination before we are in endgame.
It's just not certain that there is a good world where we can afford to say "these players are off limits for a day, go searching elsewhere". It understands the logic, infact it gets the entire concept given there are a lot of powerful town roles in the game we do not wish to expose but it really thinks that something like this should be considered the same way that number logic psychology should. A place to begin, but if a player is transparently the most scummy player in the lobby... it's not right to just allow that player to thrive unchecked.
I don't agree with this thought but I don't think it's an untowny one. Is it saying Dave is the most scummy person in the lobby or is that just a blanket "this shouldn't happen" statement?
Math is bad, too. 14 players -1 townie today gives 13, even if scum go ham tonight with a vig and a factional kill that's 11, with 8 town and 3 scum. I think the first day we could potentially be in the MELO situation above is Day 3, and that's if scum hold all the vigs, which I'm just gonna press F to doubt.
This post reminded me to consider mech, which I honestly haven't thought about at all yet, and maybe it's a better way for me to engage with this game
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post #1371 (isolation #34) » Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:59 am
Postby Pavowski »
Here is my
Very Useful List of People I Do Not Want to Vote Today:
Penguin, Fire, Oblivion, Dave, May, June, July
I could be sold on pretty much anybody else.
I'm over here speculating on mech (mechulating?) right now and willing to have that conversation if anybody is interested, but I'm not gonna spew it in the thread just yet. For one thing this is my first PYP so I'm probably talking entirely out of my ass, for another I'm not even sure how useful it will be for d1
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post #1376 (isolation #38) » Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:19 am
Postby Pavowski »
Worstie I feel like you have expectations of me that I might not be able to live up to right now. It's a weird time in my life and I am always garbage at early game anyway.
NGL I feel a little like I stumbled into a high-stakes poker game with $20 in my pocket.
For what it's worth, you continue to convince me you're town. I can only think of like one scum-motivated reason for you to get so frustrated with me
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post #1378 (isolation #39) » Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:48 am
Postby Pavowski »
In post 1377, the worst wrote:
I hate cops but I also hate violence so now I'm sad but that was spicy ty
It's a weird time in my life too. I don't think I'm nearly as convincing or insightful as I am in a random game. You do feel like the nth extreme of that, I don't think I've observed any original thoughts from u yet
What's your strongest or most surprising half cooked read? Throw me some words about it?
Ive said already I find Oblivion towny. Tonally I think it's town and I don't see a scum agenda in anything it's doing. The mistake (I think it's a mistake) in the post I quoted recently points to town. I'd almost townlock it.
Of the drafters above me I think PP is the most likely scum flip but I am not going there today.
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post #1667 (isolation #52) » Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:27 am
Postby Pavowski »
In post 1666, May wrote:
I want to townread Brian for getting angry at me but it was one of those things scum could get angry about. :/
Mafia is a cursed game I wish everyone was town
Maybe I wish I was always scum and everyone else played town and I could believe there's good in everybody's heart like Felicia Day in Dr Horrible Sing-along blog
I have never vibed with a post as much as I vibe with this one, if I weren't already in May's pocket I'd be jumping in with both feet
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
I think that this post sounds towny, but feels like it's scummy.
I'd like to think that this is just Fire mocking Gob, but it could be an underhanded attempt at cutting off a push early for various reasons.
I know you're working on sorting fire over there (ostensibly) but this post seems like such a strange one to focus in on, when you have the breadth of Fire's (massive, and there's still plenty of d1 ahead) iso to choose from.
"Sounds towny but feels scummy" - is such weird shade, too, I mean what does that even mean?
This post is setting off alarm bells
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
I think that this post sounds towny, but feels like it's scummy.
I'd like to think that this is just Fire mocking Gob, but it could be an underhanded attempt at cutting off a push early for various reasons.
I know you're working on sorting fire over there (ostensibly) but this post seems like such a strange one to focus in on, when you have the breadth of Fire's (massive, and there's still plenty of d1 ahead) iso to choose from.
"Sounds towny but feels scummy" - is such weird shade, too, I mean what does that even mean?
This post is setting off alarm bells
I know you're working on sorting jake over there (ostensibly) but this post seems like such a strange one to focus in on, when you have the breadth of Jake's (massive, and there's still plenty of d1 ahead) iso to choose from.
"ostensihly" - is such weird shade, too, I mean what does that even mean? like really it's a big word
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Post #2024 (isolation #57) » Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:31 am
Postby Pavowski »
In post 2002, PenguinPower wrote:
i mean - yeah. NAS wasn't playing well (at all) and was a liability tbh. hammering and then being like "well well well, let's find those scums off the wagon" isn't a super good look.
This, and the quickhammer wasn't my favorite
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post #2070 (isolation #59) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:23 am
Postby Pavowski »
In post 2050, Firebringer wrote:
also don't want to hear anything about the speed of gob wagon is indicative that gob isn't scum here. There is only one other scum assuming gob is scum as well. Scum barely have ability to influence wagons here.