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But what if she isn't?In post 210, Elements wrote: Daisy is probably just town
Repping in for Ranger I literally was going to fonher reads list thingIn post 156, Cee Mirage wrote: Rangerreportingin. Apologies for the absence, everyone. I've unexpectedly found myself quite busy the last few days, however I now have a brief while in which I shall catch up on what's occurred thus far.
{Black, awesomeming327}
{OopsieDaisy, Elements}
{Cee Mirage}
P1.
Hello?In post 216, experience wrote: hi drew!!!
{Drew}In post 218, OopsieDaisy wrote:can we still get doctor drew reads?In post 214, Doctor Drew wrote:Repping in for Ranger I literally was going to fonher reads list thingIn post 156, Cee Mirage wrote: Rangerreportingin. Apologies for the absence, everyone. I've unexpectedly found myself quite busy the last few days, however I now have a brief while in which I shall catch up on what's occurred thus far.
{Black, awesomeming327}
{OopsieDaisy, Elements}
{Cee Mirage}
P1.
You took away the joy I would have this game
This won't go unpunished
In post 219, OopsieDaisy wrote:oh yea what changed with your read on me?In post 210, Elements wrote: Daisy is probably just town
Why didn't you ask that initially?In post 211, OopsieDaisy wrote:there we goIn post 210, Elements wrote: Daisy is probably just town![]()
It is never the time to stop jokingIn post 269, awesomeming327 wrote: i was not aware that it's time for me to stop joking okayge
In post 279, awesomeming327 wrote: i mean looking back i literally expressed disagreement with daisyright after my voteso idk what you're on about here
Haha, greatest two posts back to back everIn post 280, Black wrote:In post 206, awesomeming327 wrote:yesIn post 197, Black wrote:Do you agree with Daisy?In post 194, awesomeming327 wrote:VOTE: TitusIn post 187, Titus wrote: Hi. I have no clue what I am doing.
Like, I build my reads/srz bizness gameplay into my shit postingIn post 276, Cee Mirage wrote:what makes you say Drew's memeing, seems like he's done some questioning as wellIn post 239, OopsieDaisy wrote: drew is memeing but i have a feeling i prolly shouldn't take that too seriously. i forgot about light too she said one of my comments pinged her but never got back to it(tho she's said she's tired so taking that at face value it's NAI)
and what would Drew memeing mean to you about his alignment, idk what conclusion you'd come to if you did "take that too seriously"
How are you not even certain if you were joking or not?In post 288, awesomeming327 wrote:I just read my ISO and I honestly believe that I was just joking about everythingIn post 286, Black wrote: Like just read ming's ISO pre-269 and tell me you honestly believe he was just joking about everything![]()
I was the first real wagon in a game awhile back(I was town), and I was getting some suss because I basically didn't care about it since an early D1 wagon is rarely a thing that gains steam.In post 294, Cee Mirage wrote:i can see the reaction possibly being like that yeahIn post 251, light_ganski wrote:counterpoint it doesn't
performatively not caring about a threat is sus
i can also see it being other things, like not actually believing that Elements was actually making a real threat
what vig calls their shot on like page 5 after all, lol?
Can you elaborate on why?In post 295, Moros wrote: i believe awesomeming
It took you isoing yourself to figure out you MIGHT have been joking?In post 299, awesomeming327 wrote:are you frIn post 290, Doctor Drew wrote:How are you not even certain if you were joking or not?In post 288, awesomeming327 wrote:I just read my ISO and I honestly believe that I was just joking about everythingIn post 286, Black wrote: Like just read ming's ISO pre-269 and tell me you honestly believe he was just joking about everything![]()
I am a real ass dude right nowIn post 302, awesomeming327 wrote: ok good you are not fr
{Cee}In post 305, Cee Mirage wrote:not really, especially after the first pageIn post 256, light_ganski wrote:cee mirage ik you are imitating ranger but is there any actual thought behind your lists beyond that because they seem pretty random
i literally copy pasted stuff and moved a few things around with a pb&j in my other hand![]()
This isn't a shtick, it is my duty as the Ranger Repp to uphold her reads listIn post 310, Cee Mirage wrote:you're too late, i already stole Ranger's shtick, you don't get to use it
also you really shouldn't announce that we're masons in your readlist like that, scary people might notice
If you tell me it was funny, you go up in my reads listIn post 313, Black Ranger wrote:could be both
In post 326, Moros wrote: i think it feels like people are reaching to make a case on ming.
Do you always white knight another player?In post 331, Moros wrote:i think this is splitting hairs to try to maintain justification on a case. i don't think it feels like town trying to find scum.Re. the agreeing or not agreeing with Daisy I don't see why the disagreeing Moros quoted (where ming disagreed that town can't get anywhere if scum hide in the 'I'm so confused' group since town can still do poe by townreading other players) means ming's "yes" is clearly a joke, when the 'do you agree with Daisy' post in context was asking if ming was voting Titus because of Daisy's theory scum would hide in the 'I'm so confused' group.
In other words, ming could have been agreeing with Daisy on how scum would behave and disagreeing that it would stop town progressing. That's how I read it at the time. So I find ming's backtracking about the Titus vote and 'yes' and 'yes there is' posts dubious and think Black could be right about ming being scum.
Ok, do you always protect a buddy like this?In post 335, Moros wrote: i don't know what i always do. so far i seem to be doing that, so maybe. do you know them to be town? if they aren't town, it isn't a white knight.
Are you trying to roleplay as halfasleep?In post 384, light_ganski wrote: also think it's interesting that moros just came straight out and said it believed ming wasn't joking
but now i must sleep
Just playing, ahem.....devil's advocate hereIn post 385, Black wrote: I encourage all to sheep me
Even if I'm wrong ming isn't exactly bringing anything to the table here
Moros seems pretty easy to read right now, as scumIn post 388, Black wrote:Moros will probably be easier to read over time. Ming is just trolling or something I'm not really sure what he's doing if he's actually townIn post 387, Doctor Drew wrote:Just playing, ahem.....devil's advocate hereIn post 385, Black wrote: I encourage all to sheep me
Even if I'm wrong ming isn't exactly bringing anything to the table here
Why not Moros over Awesome?
Normally I would say 'obvtown Cee'In post 440, Black wrote:This kinda feels like a townie thoughtIn post 439, Cee Mirage wrote: is Elements trying to act like she doesn't have anything to say to wifom us into thinking that scum wouldn't dare act like they have nothing to say after people are talking about voting for people who have nothing to say
How often do wagons contain no scum??In post 443, awesomeming327 wrote: i agree with cee, the threadstate sucks
particularly the way town seems to just, as a whole, wagon on people for shitass reasons
it's too coordinated for all of the people on the wagons to be town
Oh God, she is gonna kill me....In post 451, Black wrote:What is her main? I'm guessing it's public if you're saying thisIn post 449, Doctor Drew wrote: But after The Von Payne Show, not sure how much I trust my own read of her town game haha
I have been in your exact same situation trying to keep an alt secret hahaIn post 453, Cee Mirage wrote: hey i already said that wasn't allowed
Heh, I kinda agree hereIn post 455, Cee Mirage wrote: is Black trying to dumbtell
like really there's missing hints and then there's MISSING HINTS
Who did I say I can always figure out when she is town?In post 462, Black wrote:now i'm starting to get annoyedIn post 459, Doctor Drew wrote:Heh, I kinda agree hereIn post 455, Cee Mirage wrote: is Black trying to dumbtell
like really there's missing hints and then there's MISSING HINTS
I think it is naiIn post 469, experience wrote: i think black is prob town here, who genuinely didn't realise that checking cee's iso would reveal cee's main.
or it's nai at best.
In post 472, Cee Mirage wrote: which reaction would that be
In post 467, Black wrote: it seems like cee was trying to shade me there and i don't like it
This certainly is a take from someone who has done fuck allIn post 474, Black Ranger wrote: The compulsive need you people have to be well liked and to influence the game is pathetic
I feel like she is more reactionary as townIn post 476, Cee Mirage wrote:why do you think that's town for BlackIn post 473, Doctor Drew wrote:In post 472, Cee Mirage wrote: which reaction would that beIn post 467, Black wrote: it seems like cee was trying to shade me there and i don't like it
Lol, I kinda like your styleIn post 479, Black Ranger wrote:ExactlyIn post 477, Doctor Drew wrote:This certainly is a take from someone who has done fuck allIn post 474, Black Ranger wrote: The compulsive need you people have to be well liked and to influence the game is pathetic
Ha, I thought you were the kill, was gonna yell at you to stop posting.In post 599, Black wrote: So we vote CSF and we have a backup vote planned just in case
I'll try to do proper analysis when I'm not busy
That's a bad backup vote nglIn post 601, Black wrote: Drew is my backup vote
I voted Black because I didn't like the move from Awesome to BR, but I am also was a bit conflicted and was maybe gonna switch to Awesome......but also didn't seem like that was gonna happenIn post 613, light_ganski wrote:ofc the alternative explanation would be that black always intended to move off of ming if possible, and black ranger was the easiest target when she couldn't get enough traction on moroseIn post 611, awesomeming327 wrote:it would've taken no effort to get rid of me at all and in my opinion she would've been one of the least suspicious on the wagon, so there wasn't really any reason for her to get off if she's not genuinely solvingIn post 609, OopsieDaisy wrote:why doesn't it make sense?In post 608, awesomeming327 wrote: i do not think it makes sense for scum!Black to switch up her opinion on me so suddenly
I need to think about this
You seemed so dead set on Awesome as scum, and then basically wanted to lim a lurkerIn post 627, Black wrote:Why didn't you like me moving to BR?In post 615, Doctor Drew wrote:I voted Black because I didn't like the move from Awesome to BR, but I am also was a bit conflicted and was maybe gonna switch to Awesome......but also didn't seem like that was gonna happenIn post 613, light_ganski wrote:ofc the alternative explanation would be that black always intended to move off of ming if possible, and black ranger was the easiest target when she couldn't get enough traction on moroseIn post 611, awesomeming327 wrote:it would've taken no effort to get rid of me at all and in my opinion she would've been one of the least suspicious on the wagon, so there wasn't really any reason for her to get off if she's not genuinely solvingIn post 609, OopsieDaisy wrote:why doesn't it make sense?In post 608, awesomeming327 wrote: i do not think it makes sense for scum!Black to switch up her opinion on me so suddenly
I need to think about this
I think I am actually talking myself back to Black here heh
What do you mean by this?In post 636, OopsieDaisy wrote: If Ming is town I prolly look at slots like drew or experience who didn't rly take the chance to change anything night 0.
How did Black shake the boat?In post 645, OopsieDaisy wrote:If Ming is town then scum knew that it didn't matter where we landed between Moros/Ming/BR. Therefore there's no reason for em to shake up the boat like for example Black did. So I wanna look at the slots who didn't do a whole lot N0 if it turns out Ming is town, because scum are less likely to have been actively engaging and pushing the wagons to and fro imo.In post 643, Doctor Drew wrote:What do you mean by this?In post 636, OopsieDaisy wrote: If Ming is town I prolly look at slots like drew or experience who didn't rly take the chance to change anything night 0.
But you just said if ming is town, then scum knew they could flip between any of the three you mentioned, since they would all be mis lims.In post 647, OopsieDaisy wrote:By flipping the focus away from Ming and onto BR after my vote onto Ming, alongside initially pushing heavily against Ming during the night prior to that.In post 646, Doctor Drew wrote:How did Black shake the boat?In post 645, OopsieDaisy wrote:If Ming is town then scum knew that it didn't matter where we landed between Moros/Ming/BR. Therefore there's no reason for em to shake up the boat like for example Black did. So I wanna look at the slots who didn't do a whole lot N0 if it turns out Ming is town, because scum are less likely to have been actively engaging and pushing the wagons to and fro imo.In post 643, Doctor Drew wrote:What do you mean by this?In post 636, OopsieDaisy wrote: If Ming is town I prolly look at slots like drew or experience who didn't rly take the chance to change anything night 0.
Why would I even make all that up?In post 625, Black wrote:I low-key think he would kill Aureal here and I think his whole thing about thinking I was the NK and feeling bad for voting me feels performativeIn post 610, OopsieDaisy wrote:any reason for this?In post 601, Black wrote: Drew is my backup vote
Ya, but you said it doesn't matter where we landed in the bolded three, because scum knew they would be all three town......if awesome is town.In post 645, OopsieDaisy wrote:If Ming is town then scum knew that it didn't matter where we landed betweenIn post 643, Doctor Drew wrote:What do you mean by this?In post 636, OopsieDaisy wrote: If Ming is town I prolly look at slots like drew or experience who didn't rly take the chance to change anything night 0.Moros/Ming/BR.Therefore there's no reason for em to shake up the boat like for example Black did. So I wanna look at the slots who didn't do a whole lot N0 if it turns out Ming is town, because scum are less likely to have been actively engaging and pushing the wagons to and fro imo.
I am clearly missing some key piece of logic here.In post 657, OopsieDaisy wrote:it doesn't matter where we land in the bolded three, so why change the fact that we were landing on ming if she's scum and ming's town?In post 656, Doctor Drew wrote:Ya, but you said it doesn't matter where we landed in the bolded three, because scum knew they would be all three town......if awesome is town.In post 645, OopsieDaisy wrote:If Ming is town then scum knew that it didn't matter where we landed betweenIn post 643, Doctor Drew wrote:What do you mean by this?In post 636, OopsieDaisy wrote: If Ming is town I prolly look at slots like drew or experience who didn't rly take the chance to change anything night 0.Moros/Ming/BR.Therefore there's no reason for em to shake up the boat like for example Black did. So I wanna look at the slots who didn't do a whole lot N0 if it turns out Ming is town, because scum are less likely to have been actively engaging and pushing the wagons to and fro imo.
Black went from Awesome, to BR.....
So....by your logic, how does this clear Black?
In post 503, OopsieDaisy wrote: and yea no one bit on the black ranger stuff so im VOTE: ming right now.
In post 505, Black wrote: Deadline looming
DaisyIn post 511, awesomeming327 wrote: black ranger's ISO is a bit comical
It's very very detached from the game and I can't say it's towny
ive stuff to do rn but ill look into it in like aqn hour
As I got to the preview, I will say I do think there is still a possibility you are protecting Black.......if that wasn't clear DaisyIn post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:In post 503, OopsieDaisy wrote: and yea no one bit on the black ranger stuff so im VOTE: ming right now.In post 505, Black wrote: Deadline loomingDaisyIn post 511, awesomeming327 wrote: black ranger's ISO is a bit comical
It's very very detached from the game and I can't say it's towny
ive stuff to do rn but ill look into it in like aqn hour
I was starting to feel like you are doing whatever you can to protect Black, but I looked back to when Black switched gears onto BR.
Black wasn't getting 'traction' on the Awesome wagon, Moros was actually the leading wagon, then this happened.
You voted Awesome, to which Black suddenly switched to BR, and mentioned the threat of the deadline like 'we gotta move people'
Thomith then quickly sheeped
And then Awesome with a comical read on BR just when the momentum is starting to turn to them.
I am agreeing with you now that the flip on Awesome does tell us quite a bit actually, but Awesome flipping town does not clear Black imo
I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
You are kinda making my point hereIn post 679, awesomeming327 wrote: It was clear at some point that I was never gonna get votes, why would Black switch to black ranger to protect me, someone who isn’t even a leading wagon
In post 687, awesomeming327 wrote: I still do not see where the motivation lies for scum!Black to switch so suddenly from a townie onto another townie
In post 679, awesomeming327 wrote:It was clear at some point that I was never gonna get votes, why would Black switch to black ranger to protect me, someone who isn’t even a leading wagon
In post 503, OopsieDaisy wrote: and yea no one bit on the black ranger stuff so im VOTE: ming right now.
Awesome, you just want to this to look like you are scum don't you lol
I 100% disagree, for basically the reasons you described about BR, no one can look at that mis lim and wonder if it was driven by town or scum since they basically didn't do anything and wasn't helping town at all.In post 708, OopsieDaisy wrote:Yea I guess my opinion is different cause I thought Black Ranger was just a good lim anyways, super apathetic towards the game and kinda unwilling to contribute so wasn't super sad to see em go. Like I think that lim was still valuable to town, so then Black going for that mislim over a Ming mislim doesn't compute. The incentive of less info doesn't feel worth the push imo.In post 671, Doctor Drew wrote: I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
Ok, why is Daisy really trying hard to clear you if Ming is town then?In post 710, Black wrote:This feels like Drew is trying to position himself to fade me regardless of Ming's alignmentIn post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
Also Mafia 101 is pushing your buddy until they 'appear' to do something townie so you can move off them onto a mislim without much questions from others.In post 714, Black wrote: I think there's a chance Drew just thinks I'm scum and is molding everything to that world view but I don't understand why Drew wouldn't consider the possibility that I changed my ming read after ming did something townie. That's like Mafia 101
I think you are scum with either Ming or Daisy, but I would seriously doubt that Daisy and Ming are scum togetherIn post 715, Black wrote:I'm not sure really. What does this have to do with you thinking I'm scum regardless of Ming's alignment?In post 712, Doctor Drew wrote:Ok, why is Daisy really trying hard to clear you if Ming is town then?In post 710, Black wrote:This feels like Drew is trying to position himself to fade me regardless of Ming's alignmentIn post 671, Doctor Drew wrote:I still believe this was Black trying to protect their buddy in Awesome, and if Awesome is town I could easily see Black going for the mis lim that gives less info
No, it was asked that if CSF is vigged who should be the limIn post 742, Black wrote: Also are you suggesting I'm faded over CSF?
Surface level isn't scummy in and of itself.In post 741, Black wrote:I'm allowed to be surface level as town. Using meta that way is a really bad way to solve me. Things changeIn post 740, Doctor Drew wrote: I know it won't happen, but I went through Blacks ISO, and it definitely is not her town game. She normally pokes and prods people when something seems off, everything here seems so surface level and doesn't seem like she is actually interested in solving the game.
Even her wanting to lim me maybe and now town reading me isn't really explained, but also is very surface level at best.
Oh listen, I bet the farm on us being a secret protective role lol. So don't talk to me about bad reads hahaIn post 747, Black wrote: I already admitted I've been skimming here and there and I have a bunch of people in my blind spot butyou of all people should be familiar with that behavior from me as town. We literally just hydra'd in game where I had bad reads and just kinda did my own thing
Also, to be clear, my vote on you would be most likely vanityIn post 748, Black wrote: Anyway this argument isn't going to do much good. Like I said once I get time I'll work on strengthening my reads