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Post Post #1950  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:05 am

First off there's a difference between disagreeing and calling a case scummy. You can't call me missing one interaction you had forgivable one minute and then now say that I was misrepping you on purpose.... especially since that back and forth only added to my confidence.

How do you get 'trying to end the day early' out of that either?

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Post Post #1951  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:38 am

You're calling on titus to hammer me or cheesy.

As to your other point, why can't my opinions change? I felt like you were misrepping me from the start, but I was willing to let it go because of gamma/cheesy's actions that day (it's not just that one point in your case I disagree with either btw). If I'm starting to doubt my cheesy read now, I'm going to reevaluate your case, especially when both you and cheesy are scumreading me for different things.

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Post Post #1952  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:32 am

Yea but I don't expect people to make decisions before they're ready to. : 3

I've no issue with opinions changing if there's either stuff that happened that makes the change make sense. You being unimpressed with cheesy's case wouldn't make you suddenly doubt mine was genuine. Without doing some hefty reevaluating at least.

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Post Post #1953  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:39 am

In post 1929, aronagrundy wrote:Ok well why did you claim scum in the first place?

I mean really?

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Post Post #1954  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:45 am

In post 1907, aronagrundy wrote:Cheesy is definitely scum but on the off chance he's lying about gamma as a hail mary gambit or whatever I want him alive tomorrow so aren't stuck debating a mislynch in 3 person lylo

VOTE: gamma

I still think they're both scum btw so I don't really care who goes

This post is 'what' personified.

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Post Post #1955  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:59 am

In post 1877, aronagrundy wrote:I mean assuming culted and I are town, lynching us is scum's only path to a win. I think it makes sense for scum to try to go after culted, especially if they flip town after vocally scumreading me. And culted is who cheesy (and gamma) went after at the beginning of the day

Bit of an iffy thought process here.

I can kinda see town!arona thinking this if their townread on me strong enough but I don't think it was?

This is the path of least resistance for scum arona considering the conftowns reads + gamma and cheesy were both low hanging fruit making a bad push it's easier to just treat them both the same and keep me at arms length until necessary and get towncred for sring gamma regardless.

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Post Post #1956  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:09 am

The funniest part is that I could make a case for cheesy as scum too.
He's got a scumread on tb but never votes him.
Wasn't around to react for the claim.
Barely interacts with him at all.
ISO all in all is barren at least day 1 -- he has come alive a bit since then.

But is that scum, though? Does scum not care about getting more towncreds? Wouldn't they wanna be on that TB lynch? Especially with a declared scumread?

Of course. Gamma bussed the shite out of TB and the other one wanted the cred too.

arona is scum.

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Post Post #1957  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:35 am

Vote Count 4.2Cheesy: aronagrundy, tojam2 (L-1)
aronagrundy: Cheesy, culted (L-1)

Not voting: Titus

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Night will fall in (expired on 2017-01-19 07:56:00).
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Post Post #1958  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:36 am

Activity is nai, especially in my case cause my time really is scarce. I can bring up an entire town game I had to lurk through this past month cause of lack of time + broken phone combo but I don't think it's necessary. And as you pointed out, there was nothing to gain in me sitting quiet when TB was getting F'd in the A.

I'm gonna iso culted but I'm pretty sure I won't find anything even close to being as incriminating as what arona's done.
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Post Post #1959  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:16 am

Meh there's nothing wrong with culted.

In post 165, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm. Thinking TB and culted are not both scum-aligned. This looks a bit too out of sync to be scum theater.


^I concur

In post 1747, culted wrote:VOTE: nn30

If this flips town it's arona/gamma.


Do you remember what made you say that, culted?
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Post Post #1960  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:54 pm

So culted, your more convinced that arona is scum, i'd say of the non-confs more people think its arona, so VOTE: arona after cheesy's explanation and arona's deflect to culted seal it for me too.

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Post Post #1961  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:54 pm

Lynch btw.

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Post Post #1962  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:06 pm

Vote Count 4.3aronagrundy: Cheesy, culted, tojam2 (L)
Cheesy: aronagrundy (L-2)

Not voting: Titus

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
“Of course it's my fault. There's no one else here who could be responsible for anything.”

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Post Post #1963  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:08 pm

aronagrundy was lynched. He was a
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Vanilla Townie


Night 4 has fallen!

The sun will rise in (expired on 2017-01-10 14:09:00), or once all living players have PMed me their approval to end the night.
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Post Post #1964  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:09 pm

Titus was shot dead in the night. She was a
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Town 1-Shot Cop


Day 5 has dawned!

Vote Count 5.0Not voting: tojam2, Cheesy, culted

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Night will fall in 5 days, 0 hours, 58 minutes.
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Post Post #1965  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:39 pm

Arona looked 100% obvscum...
VOTE: culted
Tojam, if you still have any doubts about me, don't vote until I've answered every single question you have.
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Post Post #1966  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:55 am

I'll let culted defend first.

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Post Post #1967  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:58 am

I'm complete trash.
VOTE: Cheesy

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Post Post #1968  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:59 am

In post 1966, tojam2 wrote:I'll let culted defend first.

If there's anything I've done this game that you don't understand just let me know

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Post Post #1969  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:42 am

Can you each give me 5 reasons, with a quote why I shouldn't lynch you, with a quote, not doing so is a scumclaim. Yes I am abusing conftown status but its the easiest way to find scum in my opinion.
I don't want to be biased when its 50/50 either way.

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Post Post #1970  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:43 am

Ignore the double speech.

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Post Post #1971  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:04 am

Not doing that, sorry. This won't solve anything. It's not a problem for either of us to take few actions out of context and show them in a biased spotlight. It also won't prolly help if I go through culted's iso again and point out possible scumslips, although I may do that if you fail to do so.
What you need to understand is culted knows my alignment. Now I know his. We will be extremely biased and it's your job to go through our activity and point out what you want explained. You being conftown doesn't mean you can abuse it. On the contrary- now is the crucial time for you to put extra effort to try to solve the game. I suggest you do that, doesn't matter whether you like it or not.
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Post Post #1972  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:30 pm

Cheesy, to get someone else Lynched seems a poor reason to scumclaim as town, justify.

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Post Post #1973  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:30 pm

Especially as you can't count on arena to make the suggestion she did.

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Post Post #1974  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:54 pm

I've just justified, please read it twice. Seriously, all you have to do is ISO us at this point, everything we say from now on will be bullshit aimed at distorting your views of the other. All I'm asking of you is to read this game from the very beginning, page by page. I know it'll be time consuming but it is necessary. After you do that and you still have no idea who to vote, I'll play your stupid little game of self-whiteknighting.
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