Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)

[Hawk]

Nvm I reread your ISO aubrey. Let's vote IV if Kop, Bang or Spade are okay with that we can lynch and there's gotta be 5 town between the 6 of us there right?

[Kop]

VOTE: IV

It would be between him, Mala or a outside shot of Crystaline Dagger.

[Kop]

Whilst many might not scum read CD, I just feel with his general game plan, I am not getting vibes that make me feel confident that he is town, and could just be coasting along because there is very little suspicion thrown his way.

[Kop]

With 4 days remaining, I could open up to a wagon on CD to give him a kick to see where he is at this stage of the game in terms of figuring the game out.

[innocentvillager]

Spade is probably scum honestly

Just does not seem like a real town process to me

VOTE: spade

[Hawk]

Spade is probably scum honestly

Just does not seem like a real town process to me

VOTE: spade

What doesn't? His catchup post?

[innocentvillager]

ye

[Hawk]

Nah I don't think so IV :/ Point to me what parts don't make sense for a townie to make and then explain and maybe I'll consider it.

Also if Aubrey is willing to lynch you Spade put you and Mala has his top two lynches. And honestly I think Spade was setup and pushed as mislynch D1.

[Hawk]

@Kop you were on spade. What do you think of his catchup post?

[bangthemafia]

Sorry guys. I will be V/LA for few days. But will try to be updated by reading as much as possible. But posting may be difficult for me. By the way, I hav read everything till now.

Spade's catchup post was quite fine. However he is an extremely good player as scum. But as of now he looks townie to me. I buy lot of his arguments.

Hawk, thanks for digging out on IV. I just didnt have time to do that. Agree largely to most points. Because of all those points and also because of his OMGUSsing Spade without any solid reads or reasons, I am ready to vote for IV.

However, I just dont know why, maybe for his sudden vote to me on Day 2, and for various reasons other reasons like Hawk and Spade gave, I feel Mala is more suspicious.

So I am voting for Mala but can very well shift to a wagon on IV or even CD- I liked Jin's posts initially but CD is almost a lurker now.

Also, if I am not around when hammer is reached, I think its decent plan to lynch one of Mala or IV and KT vigging the other at night.

@Mod, even if scum nightkills KT, and KT vigges scum, I assume vig kill is siccesful, right?

VOTE: Malakittens

[Malakittens]

VOTE: iv

[Hawk]

UNVOTE: IV

Still want to lynch here just want to consider Mala for a second. Mala can you give me a quick run down why we should town read you? I don't want KT to shoot you if I'm missing something we still have a few days but I think this IV lynch is good.

[Hawk]

Also when I put a vote back on IV here shortly that'll make him L-1 Since Kop put him at L-2.

[Aubrey]

I'll catch up after work tonight. Got some unfortunate news, and just haven't been feeling great.

[The MM]

@Mod, even if scum nightkills KT, and KT vigges scum, I assume vig kill is siccesful, right?

If the vigilante and a scum player shoot at each other, both kills go through.

Vote Count

Not Voting (1):

Hawk

bangthemafia (0):

Crystalline Dagger (1):

Aubrey

Spade_Ace (1):

innocentvillager

Malakittens (3):

Crystalline Dagger, Spade_Ace, bangthemafia

Kop (0):

innocentvillager (3):

KainTepes, Kop, Malakittens

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-21 18:00:00)

[Aubrey]

"

I don't think you're scummy, but I'm going to waste my vote on you

"

"

I'm not doing anything to help the town nor am I saying much, so obviously you shouldn't think I'm scum. How dare you suspect me

"

-IV

this is a misrep

I'm not saying this slot is scum by any means, nor that I'm extremely suspicious of bang, but this is more likely to come from scum mindset than town mindset so I'm fine with this vote for now.

The last clause means that I think it's scummy. If something is more likely to come from scum mindset than town then that is scummy no matter what.

I said I'm not *extremely* suspicious of bang. I said "I'm not saying this slot is scum", which doesn't mean I think they're null or town, it just means I'm not saying the slot is for sure scum. I may have worded it unnecessarily weirdly, but the point should be clear.

Apologies, let me retry.

"

I don't think you're scummy, but I think you're scummy, but by no way am I certain you're scum cause you could possibly flip town, so I'm going to vote you cause you're attacking me for not doing much

" - IV

:/

With any read there should be some doubt no matter what, unless of course a cop has a read or you're scum. I just don't see the point of stressing uncertainty like you did. There's being uncertain, and then there is stressing uncertainty. Then you attack him for pushing you, because

scum attack low activity players

. While I don't disagree with you here, you also can't argue against it being a scum tactic to hang back either like you have done so.

Between that, what I said before, and the "

omg alisea's wagon is shit

" when I found their play to reek of over zealous scum, but were town-read by you for some unknown reason, just puts a bad taste in my mouth.

--

I'm fine with voting IV, but i'm shocked that CD hasn't really been pushed more today even though multiple people have voiced concerns regarding the slot. I assume it is because one head is VLA, but just cause one head goes into a VLA doesn't mean the other shouldn't at least pop in. 4 days.

[Aubrey]

Whilst many might not scum read CD, I just feel with his general game plan, I am not getting vibes that make me feel confident that he is town, and could just be coasting along because there is very little suspicion thrown his way.

^^^^

[Spade_Ace]

Just about 3 days remaining. Mala or Iv appears to be the lynch. You both should speak out now.

[Hawk]

Well I was hoping that Mala might have come back on and responded to me or at least given some thoughts as to why she thinks IV is scum. Sheeping the vote now. Putting him to L-1 without saying anything and then not responding makes me wary of that slot. I really dont like that IV, Mala, and CD's slots are so quiet and not really trying to prove anything. It's one thing to say you don't have to convince people you're town if you're town only that scum is really scum but this inactivity just feels like coasting. At this point I'm gonna vote IV before end of day. KT figure out your shot. I think it should be Mala or CD. JK figure out your jail
I think if we flip red here you don't have to jail since worse case it's 5v1. Only real concern is if we misLynch and miss shoot we go into 4v2 Mylo so let's play it careful guys.

[Aubrey]

VOTE: IV

L1

[Hawk]

Intent to hammer. Anyone got anything final to say? I know some of ya'll aren't awake or will be waking up soon so I'll give it till tomorrow my time.

[Spade_Ace]

@mod please prod CD

@hawk it's been two days since IV last visited MS. I don't think he knows that he is in L-1.

[Hawk]

@mod please prod CD

@hawk it's been two days since IV last visited MS. I don't think he knows that he is in L-1.

This is why I'm waiting... I want a claim too before I lynch...

[Aubrey]

ZZZzzz

[KainTepes]

tepes kain