if i recall correctly 4v8 nightless is actually 33% EV, with an in-practice winrate of 50% or higher. i'll check the wikiIn post 1409, innocentvillager wrote:im not sure what is normally considered balanced for pure normal nightless vanilla (maybe like 4 v 7 would be my guess? 4 v 8 I know is 50% but town outperforms this right?) but the crossfire voting and votes not resetting really hurts town in the late game; as A50 said there were many opportunities for blitz chaindunking (none materialized, but they definitely could've and I probably should've been more explicit about discouraging multivoting in the mid-late game). I think 4 v 9 is probably pretty balanced if I had to make a wild guess, i think 4 v 8 with crossfire starts to get maf sided
chain dunking
is
a real benefit for scum, though. i think that if this setup needed
to be changed, it'd probably be only minus one VT