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yess well we just try and claim spread-out targets
how about hypoclaiming cop only?
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i wouldn't use the word pocket but im liberal with TRs (and SRs) as town, so it can be perceived as pocketing.
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nahhhhh im more confident as town now because my accuracy in reads is actually improvingIn post 278, MiniVirgo wrote:Also how the heck is Johnny confirmed scum in your eyes this early, I've only ever seen you this confident as scum in the large normal just closed. Also wouldn't scum try and justify their unvote if they were trying to feign re-evaluation to protect their sweet hide.
overjustification is a scumtell
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JV is making a wrong push but its not a bad push and im ?????? on how you got hereIn post 432, Elbirn wrote:minivirgo is obvscum for saying basically what I said earlier about Giant Pachyderm being mis-elim bait, and then casing/voting them for.......being mis-elim bait I guess. I asked for an explanation on why we were voting for BE and the closest to a response I got was that and it felt like scummy content/timing"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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its AIIn post 440, MiniVirgo wrote:Would this be AI of sorts, I'm not sure of their meta or if they even have one.
we don't need meta to read people
this is scum!AI
it's discrediting townies"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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- OMGUS = towntell for me, because I am self-aware as scumIn post 444, MiniVirgo wrote:- Acts OMGUS'y as all heck as a scum-tell.
- Thinks their SR is absolute and there's no way they can be wrong, similar to how they feigned confidence in the large normal.
- Continued to copy and pocket the living daylights out of me when I TR'd them.
- Has confidence in their SRs for a good reason and articulating my thoughts
- copied JV as a meme and TR'd JV for good logic
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omgus isn't scum indicative
i might be projecting but this is omgus and NAI"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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yeah it was a memeIn post 449, MiniVirgo wrote:You copied my question first, which was highly likely not a meme. The second time was likely to cover your hide as scum to push for it to be a meme, not sure what that would be as town because that's one messed up meme."I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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what is this buzzword obsession that omgus = scum or anti
also I never admitted to omgussing"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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no it was same headIn post 485, MiniVirgo wrote:I find it hard to believe that both heads of the hydra lulvoted the exact same person."I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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yeah i omgus as scum but I didn't say that, I said it wasn't scum!AIIn post 485, MiniVirgo wrote:Claimed that they OMGUS as town only, never as mafia which is a lie. Then to back up their logic they are forced to say that they don't SR me for OMGUS in the most awkward way possible and then lied saying they never admitted to OMGUSing
mini all your points are basically indicating that im am really bad at playing town"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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i think of fun things that happen as scum because i hate playing townIn post 485, MiniVirgo wrote:Town shouldn't be thinking fun things that happen as scum. I'm thinking that's a possible perspective slip from scum!shelly."I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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johnny TR'd me before and now sheeps JV's read opportunistically, johnny just went up another notch on my scumdar
im still SRing Professor Mafia rather hard
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if you say that you clearly don't know my towngameIn post 510, Almost50 wrote:
shellyc is NOT bait.In post 488, Elbirn wrote:minivirgo is scum-casing on bait and won't let go of a perceived easy elimination, zzz
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has professor mafia dipped after yessiree's pressure on them
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read the iso
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welcome hecticIn post 634, Nandor the Relentless wrote:Jacko pls, I think shelly is town here being mislaunched day 1 as town!her usually is. I don't understand why you don't also see this.
Her play here is light and day from her scum game in more than a few ways:
- She is more wordy and wishy-washy
- She is less abrasive and blunt
- She is not pushing people for terrible reasons
- She is not doing obviously fake reaction tests
- She has not lied about anything
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its not AI, redados is "busy IRL and has lost the motivation for forum mafia"In post 589, Nandor the Relentless wrote:redados posted some, then he didn't, and then he left.
I'm asking shelly why that's the case.
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nandor is close to locktown imo, this is really proactive questioning and poking
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fine im doing PBPA
random SR on me for TRing JV for being more active and solvy and framing it as a "pocket" and SR for making "reads" LOLIn post 97, Professor Mafia wrote:Big Elephant is sounding increasingly scummy, I think the TR on MiniVirgo is a deep pocket, and they're just generally agreeing with stuff and throwing out forced reads instead of solving.
I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw
VOTE: Big Elephant
second line is treading IIoA
overexplanation it totally a personality tell and furthering the game by making something out of a NAI post is badIn post 107, Professor Mafia wrote:
I think you're the one that's shitpushing here. In my opinion, overexplanation is a scumtell and pointing that out is furthering the game.In post 106, Big Elephant wrote:ftr im scumreading johnny's shitpush in their opening so it'd make my day if N_M were to vote there
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Does anyone else see what I'm seeing here?
shutting down my TR to shade N_M subtlyIn post 108, Professor Mafia wrote:
N_M is playing like a jester, like they usually do. I don't really get why that's a good reason to TR people.In post 105, Big Elephant wrote:N_M's bold style is pretty town!AI. Scum usually don't go against the grain like that imo.
Feels like you're randomly throwing out reads like candies here. Your trajectories to get to a TR are cheap.
im also foreign to N_M meta and making reads is again, not scummy
no reasoning, TRing those who make similar reads to them = lazy readsIn post 200, Professor Mafia wrote:
+1 to thisIn post 190, ManWithNoName wrote:Something about Elephant's reads just ping me the wrong way, I guess the best way to describe it is that it seems pocket.
MWNN's probably town
why are MWNN/A50 town???In post 373, Professor Mafia wrote:big elephant is hardcore omgussing. MWNN/A50 are probably both town
hot take: I have a mild SR on MiniVirgo. Trying to defend A50 sounds a bit like a buddy attempt imo.
i think a lot of scum are inactive
why is the defense buddying not everything that TRs people = pocketing
why would you assume scum are active, this is prob TMI
why does big elephant (me) and MV contain scumIn post 374, Professor Mafia wrote:at least 1 inactive is prob!scum, big elephant and MiniVirgo contain scum
this game is nearly solved
shitpushing without explaining the SR on my slot AT ALL and sheeping JVIn post 452, Professor Mafia wrote:MiniVirgo/Big Elephant contains scum, idk why people call BE "low charisma wagon" that slot is just obtuse and scummy
Derp is rather town imo, tone has been good, A50's playing to their town meta
get Elephant today this will solve the game
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in conclusion, a lot of what profmaf is doing is pointing out things and making statements instead of having a real actively scumhunting mindset, a lot of this is pointing fingers vs. trying to solve
a lot of these reads aren't followed up on, and when there's scrutiny on profmafs play, they basically went MIA, and are few hours away from prod"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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also i think scum doesn't come out all guns blazing like that?In post 655, shellyc wrote:nandor is close to locktown imo, this is really proactive questioning and poking
nandor/mini/yessireee are almost locktown tier
im like town-ish on A50 now for reasons I will not discuss"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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how does it make no sense when prof maf is basically deflecting from derp onto meIn post 664, derp wrote:
hold up shelly u were the chosen one, u called me town earlier for my sexy and pleasant tone and now u came up with a terrible day 1 solve that makes no logical senseIn post 655, shellyc wrote:nandor is close to locktown imo, this is really proactive questioning and poking
johnny/prof maf/derp?
yeah but PoE is a wonderful thing and MWNN townier than your slot by a huge margin, your tone is good but your iso is complete filler"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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so you SR everyone that SRs youIn post 665, derp wrote:dear derp still believes this is likely to be scum hectic but dear derp is now also good with yeeting shelly for betraying my trust
this, my friend, is truly omgus."I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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do you think i am forced to retaliatorily TR you when you WK meIn post 669, derp wrote:hectics push was likely coming from scum!hectic and ure 180 for no reasoning trying to put up a 3 man team is certainly opportunistic and a betrayal of the highest degree as i defended the oversized elephant earlier when people wanted to put it down
no. i am not. and I've got the freedom to re-evaluate as I please. You're expecting me to TR you vs. trying to solve my alignment, which is indicative of TMI"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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this just makes nandor +town and derp +scumIn post 684, Nandor the Relentless wrote:
shelly did not 180 on you, derp. This was from a while ago^In post 372, Big Elephant wrote:there is scum in {prof mafia, johnny, derp}
there is scum. in {MWNN, A50}
these are my conclusions atm
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You're also shading her for putting out a team solve on day 1, but she's been putting out team solves for the entire day, and that hasn't bothered you before. It does now that you're in it though.
This OMGUS looks systematic.
VOTE: derp
this isn't menal, I did a similar progression in one of my towngames that got me misexe'd (town!menal pushed the wagon) and menal is aware not to make a mistake a second time"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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why was it initially towny and now scummy tho?In post 689, derp wrote:shellys progression is bad which initially came across as town but seems to come from an opportunistic perspective
im SR on you BEFORE I started using this account, I TR'd you earlier for good tone, I re-evaluated by reading your ISO and it has virtually no game advancing content tbh"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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HURT: derpIn post 692, derp wrote:if i would just scumread people for voting on me then that would be omgus indeed but i am not and shelly is not voting on me (yet at least)
HURT: JohnnyFarrar
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redados is busy IRLIn post 706, Nandor the Relentless wrote:Mind answering these, shelly?
im confident because i recently deathtunnelled scum"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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why does it suck tho, i wanna know the whyIn post 722, Bingle wrote:The ProfMaf cases both suck."I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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isn't your vote on me aornIn post 733, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I would vote either one
can you put your vote to a better use or something. k thanks."I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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derp if you're town can you provide a readslist with 1-2 line explanations with everyoneIn post 737, derp wrote:people should really learn to read the gamestate if they believe poor derp is going to flip red, but innocent derp understands that he is probably going to be yeeted today which is very rude"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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I'm gonna say professor/johnny 2 scum in those four names, professor mafia is scum for the CW, johnny has virtually no logical progression with the 180 on meIn post 738, piisirrational wrote:shellyc [4]: Professor Mafia, Almost50, ManWithNoName, JohnnyFarrar"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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if these were t/t CWs I would expect competent and active scumteam but considering the lurkers and how firm my TRs are on the rather active players, professor is just prob!scum by VCA"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
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what is your trajectory on PM
don't you scumread me? so you think I hardbussed that slot?"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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this also sounds rather lamisty imo.In post 780, Elbirn wrote:I fucking SAID
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read the iso and tell me what you think thereIn post 787, JohnnyFarrar wrote:also also I'm in less games now so I'm here to pay attention and catch scum. What's got you so convinced he's scum, shellz?
what makes you not like their start
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yeah. ok challenge 1 sort these names from town -> scumIn post 790, Elbirn wrote:as for johnnyfarrar they are a player in this game that much I can say for certain. do you have a more direct question perhaps? prod me into a good direction
Professor Mafia
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In post 658, shellyc wrote:fine im doing PBPA
random SR on me for TRing JV for being more active and solvy and framing it as a "pocket" and SR for making "reads" LOLIn post 97, Professor Mafia wrote:Big Elephant is sounding increasingly scummy, I think the TR on MiniVirgo is a deep pocket, and they're just generally agreeing with stuff and throwing out forced reads instead of solving.
I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw
VOTE: Big Elephant
second line is treading IIoA
overexplanation it totally a personality tell and furthering the game by making something out of a NAI post is badIn post 107, Professor Mafia wrote:
I think you're the one that's shitpushing here. In my opinion, overexplanation is a scumtell and pointing that out is furthering the game.In post 106, Big Elephant wrote:ftr im scumreading johnny's shitpush in their opening so it'd make my day if N_M were to vote there
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Does anyone else see what I'm seeing here?
shutting down my TR to shade N_M subtlyIn post 108, Professor Mafia wrote:
N_M is playing like a jester, like they usually do. I don't really get why that's a good reason to TR people.In post 105, Big Elephant wrote:N_M's bold style is pretty town!AI. Scum usually don't go against the grain like that imo.
Feels like you're randomly throwing out reads like candies here. Your trajectories to get to a TR are cheap.
im also foreign to N_M meta and making reads is again, not scummy
no reasoning, TRing those who make similar reads to them = lazy readsIn post 200, Professor Mafia wrote:
+1 to thisIn post 190, ManWithNoName wrote:Something about Elephant's reads just ping me the wrong way, I guess the best way to describe it is that it seems pocket.
MWNN's probably town
why are MWNN/A50 town???In post 373, Professor Mafia wrote:big elephant is hardcore omgussing. MWNN/A50 are probably both town
hot take: I have a mild SR on MiniVirgo. Trying to defend A50 sounds a bit like a buddy attempt imo.
i think a lot of scum are inactive
why is the defense buddying not everything that TRs people = pocketing
why would you assume scum are active, this is prob TMI
why does big elephant (me) and MV contain scumIn post 374, Professor Mafia wrote:at least 1 inactive is prob!scum, big elephant and MiniVirgo contain scum
this game is nearly solved
shitpushing without explaining the SR on my slot AT ALL and sheeping JVIn post 452, Professor Mafia wrote:MiniVirgo/Big Elephant contains scum, idk why people call BE "low charisma wagon" that slot is just obtuse and scummy
Derp is rather town imo, tone has been good, A50's playing to their town meta
get Elephant today this will solve the game
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Instead of engaging me they're saying SHELLY IS OMGUSSING THEY ARE SCUM which indicates no interest in solving my slot and only binning my slot away, indicating that they might already know my alignment"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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what we didIn post 804, JohnnyFarrar wrote:So you'll forgive me I'm new to this, are we claiming what we did/ would have done as driver/cop last night or what we will be doing tonight"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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johnny is like. my second strongest SR after profmafia. i didn't really like the vote as it was pretty lamisty + they themselves didn't really have a solid take on profmafia in 789 albeit voting profmafiaIn post 818, MiniVirgo wrote:Shelly, Faraar can you please give me a read on the other? In detail please if that's alright
I explained how they were trying to make something out of nothing with their MWNN thing, and their iso isn't really spicy at all and lacks firm takes"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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do you townread N_MIn post 817, MiniVirgo wrote:Also I think it's just them, my vote on them is out of policy because we cannot allow anti-town behaviour and I've generally come to realise that anti-town behavior, even if town, has to go bye bye."I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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[1] yesIn post 825, MiniVirgo wrote:[1] Are you referring to their ProfMafia vote today?
[2] Lack of spicy and firm takes is generally nai and sometimes can be even town!ai as no town should really be confident in their reads unless it's close to rock-solid if you know what I mean?
[2] One thing that absolutely glows town to me is a read that is confident but isn't TMId if you know what I mean
do you think lack of content (I consider takes to be content) is townie then?
content is town!AI and there's almost none from that slot"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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look JV sometimes we have differing methods but we return to the same takes which is good
I'll pivot to johnny if you join me since they have been my secondary SR for... quite a while"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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I might call them out since they have meta on me, also when I get misguillo'd and flip town, town will look at my reads and point back to johnny/profmaf solveIn post 829, MiniVirgo wrote:This is one post I don't see scum!john and town!shelly as I would imagine scum!johnny just trying to yeet shelly."I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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I'm most interested in poking Johnny, Elbirn and ProfMaf atm.
elbirn has been pretty unremarkable since they repped in, unlike bingles last few posts which I like because they're giving their thoughts and injecting proactiveness into the gamestate"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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elbirns push on JV for apparently posting a lot does not make sense at all
if it's elbirn/professor mafia/johnny I'm gonna sig this after the game"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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I'm +1 to PL of N_M. better to PL now than PL in lylo.In post 870, Elbirn wrote:mini was town reading me yesterday but now they're floating bait like this? nah"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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ok guys this is a scumpost. pretty much null on most people except bingle/A50, which isn't a hot take and uses mech = townIn post 864, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Consider me poked here. I'm getting bored and I'm not satisfied being the de facto lim today like derp was yesterday. So here's my everybody thoughts (with bonus vote probably)
I've talked about ProfMaf and Shelly
Nandor was poking me yesterday until derp showed up and then he just conveniently forgot I existed until right now. Boring. Not necessarily scummy. I don't really have a way to pressure him right now though. I'd look in his direction if I do end up flipping here today.
Man with no name seems to be ok with innocently sheeping Bingle right now, and while I don't love the laziness Bingle is the right guy to sheep right now so meh.
Bingle looks really good. I like his townread on shelly and he's good at explaining things to me setup-wise.
Who even is Froppy?
I really don't like A50 here. Shelly push yesterday, refuting claims that she's bait, and putting the l-1 vote on derp AFTER being warned about NM lolhammers AND acknowledging the potential for one while voting. And then he just forgets his "lolhammers are a scum claim" position today and ignores NM entirely.
VOTE: A50 if NM is scum here, this is his partner.
Elberin is hard to pin down. Voted mini day one which is like, different? I liked that at the time, but hasn't produced a lot of content since. Some pressure here would be nice as well.
MiniV made waves being smart and outspoken early, which isn't really AI, but I like what they've got to say. Call it gut. Except the scumread on me.
Not Mafia.... My question still stands. Does anyone know what N_M scum looks like? I don't wanna policy lim them but I don't want to just ignore them either.
I guess it just feels a little bit like bullying and a little bit like a waste of time to meMiniVirgo wrote:
Why is it whack when they literally acting against towns goals, leaving them alive in lylo is suicide regardless of their alignment because they’ll just speed hammer the first wagonIn post 858, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Hey, policy limming is whack. You knew you were getting a NM game. Has he done anything that shows he's scummy that he doesn't do as town? What does a NM scum game look like?
preflip assoc on N_M to A50 which can be destroyed once N_M flips town (which is basically 8/11 chance from an uninformed pov)
Johnny scumreads me yet scumreads A50 for scumreading me which is hypocritical."I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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VOTE: JohnnyFarrar
just sheep me till im wrong, Johnny is a scumslot, professor mafia is a scumslot, elbirn I'm not 100% on but probably third scum"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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elbirns whole MV push seems like scum underestimating how TR'd that slot was and basically feels really weakly reasons and deflect considering I've been trying to put spotlight on johnny/prof"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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i mean its fine but I wont be the one to push it
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are you afraidIn post 892, Froppy wrote:In post 884, shellyc wrote: I'm +1 to PL of N_M. better to PL now than PL in lylo.In post 886, shellyc wrote:VOTE: JohnnyFarrar
just sheep me till im wrong, Johnny is a scumslot, professor mafia is a scumslot, elbirn I'm not 100% on but probably third scum
I'm hesitant to want to sheep you shelly, if Johnny turns out to be town then we are somewhat forced to vote N_M and if they turn out to be town then we need to hope that cop and mafia bus didn't interact with each other over the three days.In post 891, MiniVirgo wrote:Day 2- 3v8.
Day 3- 3v6
Day 5- 3v4, lylo
If we don't lynch scum, we have literally today or tomorrow to yeet N_M.
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or do you straight out TR them"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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