Open 801: Trust Fall (Game Over)
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How many patents do you have to your name?In post 10, Hectic wrote:Reasons to Trust Hectic in 2020:
- I do not own a single weapon of mass destruction in my household.
- I have only committed mass murder on oneoccasion, and no more.
- I can not only fall into your arms, but backflip into them.
- I am not an assassin or contract killer, I am retired and that is long behind me.
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So a (modification of an) idea from the previous iteration of this that they didn't actually try:
What if each of us names 2 players other than ourselves, like a pseudo-vote thing.
Then after a certain point, the 2 players named most often have to pair off.
So like the same concept as RVS wagons basically, but we flip 2 people.
For this to be worth anything I think we have to actually talk about stuff and be able to change our pair though, which isn't what was proposed in that game.
And obviously we're town-hunting here, but I think maybe I'd want to push for like 2rd and 3rd towniest town reads or something? So we save the consensus towniest player to still be around after the flips.-
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Yeah, I was not intending those to beIn post 50, Equinox wrote:As a reminder, the notation for trusting is I trust X.TRUSTif that's directed at me.-
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Scum getting a say gives us something to read associatives from though.In post 54, shellyc wrote:i don't think leashing is that good of an idea tbh, scum getting a say through leashing may be dangerous-
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Well you're in the right game for it...In post 55, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I am a Suicidal Jester, who wants to die.-
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You scumread Jake?In post 71, Uncrowned wrote:Hey. I said tie me within a townie player.-
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Towniness Vote Count!
Jake The Wolfie (3):Akarin, Rockhopper, Pooky
Fidget (1):Akarin
Akarin (1):Rockhopper
Uncrowned (1):Pooky
Hectic (0):
Necessary Sneasel (0):
PookyTheMagicalBear (0):
Rainbow Reads (0):
Rockhopper (0):
shellyc (0):
Not Voting (6):Fidget, Hectic, Jake The Wolfie, Necessary Sneasel, Rainbow Reads, shellyc
You're really bad at being a Jester, Jake.-
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Towniness Votes!: Y'all are making this confusing asterisks edition
Uncrowned (3*): Pooky, Fidget*, Hectic*, Shelly
Jake The Wolfie (2.5*):Rockhopper, Pooky, Fidget*
Akarin (2*):Rockhopper, Hectic*, Fidget*
Rockhopper (1*):Hectic*, Fidget*
Hectic (1.5*):Akarin, Fidget*
Fidget (1):Akarin
Necessary Sneasel (0):
PookyTheMagicalBear (0):
Rainbow Reads (0):
shellyc (0):
Not Voting (4): Jake The Wolfie, Necessary Sneasel, Rainbow Reads, Uncrowned
*Fidget is cute so she gets as many votes as she wants.
**Hectic is cute so he gets 1 extra vote but NO MORE
***I interpreted Shelly’s “unc is town” as a towniness vote because why not-
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Because I had liked both of their opening posts.In post 155, Necessary Sneasel wrote:why are you healing these two here akarin?
Later I decided I did like Jake because of his discomfort with being townread, but since then I've flipped on him because I feel like he's playing it up a lot.-
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This one.In post 87, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
Please just let me fall to the groundIn post 81, Uncrowned wrote:But if people ship us, then who am I to deny our fans?-
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She obviously understood about Equinox's disgusting anti-suffrage stance, but chose to RVS vote for Pooky right after me, building momentum. It's a dumb page 1 read but I feel like scum would have been more likely to either not vote or vote elsewhere.In post 184, Necessary Sneasel wrote:what made you like the other person's opener? not jake. i forgot the username of the one i'm asking about.
But post 98, post 171 progression, and post 171 also strike me as pretty towny, so I have grown more confident in my town read there.-
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As a denizen of the great land of cheeseburgers and eagles I've been busy since Thursday and I think probably a lot of other people have been too, weird time to make activity reads.In post 372, Gloria Cleary wrote:
Huh???In post 371, Akarin wrote:Need to catch up, but this is a weird weekend to be making activity reads.-
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Gloria, this is what I saw when I said that.In post 361, Gloria Cleary wrote:Maybe NS is right because Shelley also needed prodding in Hideyoshi. I hate activity alignment reading people though.
In post 365, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
activity reads are for nerds, shelly probably had a busy weekend or somethingIn post 361, Gloria Cleary wrote:Maybe NS is right because Shelley also needed prodding in Hideyoshi. I hate activity alignment reading people though.
check her iso, a personality like hers always reads assertive but i think she clearly has no idea what's going on in this game-
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Yes, but if Pooky is scum I'll consider throwing because family is what's most important, especially at this time of year.In post 382, Gloria Cleary wrote:@Akarin, are you town here?-
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We're clearly miscommunicating here because I have no idea what you're talking about, but I think you're thinking I'm saying something I'm not.In post 386, Gloria Cleary wrote:
And why would the mod’s decision to prod anyone be even remotely influenced by “activity reads”?In post 382, Gloria Cleary wrote:@Akarin, are you town here?
Cuz I bet money that has never actually happened in any game ever.-
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I mean thatIwould be prodded. But I said a thing that wasn't "prodge" while I was catching up because I was over the timer.
I don't understand how anyone can evenhavea read on Rainbow Reads right now, guess I need to look at some of their games or something but just seems like nothing to go on at all.
I actually don't want to see Uncrowned paired off yet though, because I'd like some of the towniest voices to survive until late game.-
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I've looked again, I can't find it. You go from one scumread (Pooky) to me on the same page where all I did was post my Thanksgiving prod-dodge. Explain please?In post 403, Necessary Sneasel wrote:see it you can find it-
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Like there's a significant chance Rainbow-Jake is T-T, and in that case we remove the... noise about their lack of noise from the game. And if one is scum we'll have just done the POE paranoia elim a bit earlier than doing it at endgame. If both are scum the pairing will fail and then game solved! (No way is it gonna be that easy.)-
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Of course they could be wrong. I'm despairing of ever having a good read on either of them though. I was liking Jake at first, that kind of faded, but I still think she's no worse than neutral.
I'm just not seeing at what point in the game we'll have any confident reads on either that don't seem reachy. But I can easily see both being less scummy than Pooky or whoever the group consensus ends up with in late game.
I think I'm like 0.01% more likely town than random on Jake and absolute coinflip on Rainbow, but I'm not sure I see it getting much better than that, and I see some value in removing them from the equation, because statistically everyone is a bit more likely town than scum anyway.
If we pair consensus town reads first we have no one trustworthy around to give opinions.-
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I actually almost proposed to Sneasel earlier today, not that I think he'd accept, but I'm having some paranoia there. I think he's probably more likely town than not but I don't know, something about the "I'm gonna pair with Akarin, somebody stop me" thing. Plus, if he is town, I wouldn't want him to actually accept anyway.
There's 4 hours after Sneasel proposed to Uncrowned where Uncrowned was admittedly not that active butdidhave a couple posts on site elsewhere and there's not enough scum for it to be Sneasel + Uncrowned + Pooky. So scum!Uncrowned should have paired with whichever was town, or either if they both were.
I don't see what the gambit does for Uncrowned here if scum, and it's possible that it's Pooky + Uncrowned and Uncrowned missed the Sneasel thing but I think that'smuchless likely than Sneasel seems to think it is.-
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Yeah that was a prod dodge.In post 438, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
akarin is scum because the four pages between this & her last post are filled with actual content and this is a really peculiar moment to pop in with a mech comment - go back and reread from her last post to this one and tell me you think an akarin who is reading and trying to solve the game makes this post without commenting on anything elseIn post 304, Akarin wrote:When we do start pairing up, instead of pairing top townreads first, I kind of think we should pair from the middle pairs until we hit scum, then reevaluate for the last few.
unconscious guilt over me saying I was going to trust her is showing
bet on it.-
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They obviously have different playstyles, but yeah I think they're basically going to amount to the same in terms of difficulty reading. Neither strikes me as the scummiest player, for reasons I mentioned before, and your previous point on Rainbow, but at the same time I'd be super-hesitant to bet the game on both of them being town near endgame.In post 443, Necessary Sneasel wrote:you think Jake and rainbow are that similar? can you try rainbow again?
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Fidget is still cute. Has been generally towny.In post 451, Hectic wrote:I am BACK
I've fallen behind in like all of my games, so I'm just going to play from page 19 and look to new horizons. Give me some important pointers if I missed them.
Gloria Cleary replaced Rockhopper and will surely post enough that you'll be able to read her soon.
Jake The Wolfie has been prodded. Flirted with Pooky a bit but didn't propose. Has had no real content.
Necessary Sneasel has rabies but is pretty likely town. Thinks I'm scum because of the post I quoted just above this one. Also was doubting that Uncrowned was town for a while even after previously trusting Uncrowned, but has since decided that was paranoia and is trusting Uncrowned again.
PookyTheMagicalBear is my father.
Rainbow Reads??????
shellyc is someone I have no faith in my ability to read and hasn't done anything really notable but has been questioning Sneasel a bit
Uncrowned is probably* conftown.-
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What makes you say that?In post 457, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
This does not appear to be the popular choice.In post 456, Akarin wrote:Oh, and I suggested we pair Rainbow+Jake first.
Read my ISO for me explaining it over and over to Gloria, I think I eventually explained why well enough.-
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In post 461, Hectic wrote:As for other candidates, I think Akarin is still solid off the top of my head. I should probably look back and see why Sneasel thinks she's sus thoughIn post 453, Akarin wrote:
Yeah that was a prod dodge.In post 438, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
akarin is scum because the four pages between this & her last post are filled with actual content and this is a really peculiar moment to pop in with a mech comment - go back and reread from her last post to this one and tell me you think an akarin who is reading and trying to solve the game makes this post without commenting on anything elseIn post 304, Akarin wrote:When we do start pairing up, instead of pairing top townreads first, I kind of think we should pair from the middle pairs until we hit scum, then reevaluate for the last few.
unconscious guilt over me saying I was going to trust her is showing
bet on it.-
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Fidget, did you still have questions about my Rainbow-Jake thought or did that pretty much answer itself as the day went on.
I'm less hot on that right now by the way, but I was kind of hoping Jake or Rainbow would actually react to it more. Or other people.
I don't really think all the scum can be in people making a point of not trying though.-
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In post 511, shellyc wrote:what makes you think that two lurker/quiet scum are implausible?
Because the two least-towny townies and the two scum can be left at the end and town will win. Scum really don't want to both be in the bottom 4.In post 512, Gloria Cleary wrote:Why not? Everyone else seems townier.
I caneasilyimagine one of them being scum, but I think on a Pooky-Jake, Pooky-Rainbow, or Rainbow-Jake scumteam, at leastoneof them would try to play up the towniness to the best of their abilities. Iabsolutelybuy that Pooky could play this way as scum, but if scum is Pooky-Rainbow? Wouldn't Pooky try to actually act more town in that pairing?
And if it's Rainbow-Jake, well a) that's a reason to want to pair them up, but b) Jake wouldn't try harder than this? And quickly glancing at a few other games, it seems like sometimes Rainbow does give more content than just the readslists.
The thing about Jake is wanting to pair with Pooky. That gives me some serious hesitation because maybe that's Jake trying to actually get out of the game with Town!Pooky banking on Pooky making a whimsical choice like that.
So I guess now I want Rainbow to be my new step-rainbow.-
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I literally had not read the intervening posts.In post 543, Necessary Sneasel wrote:she posted elsewhere onsite between the post before the one that struck me as guilty & her post before it so I kinda assumed she wasn't literally inactive the whole time
I'm still surprised she didn't feel compelled to engage with anything else
I had a limited amount of time and prioritized a game with an impending deadline. Not sure if it's the one I can talk about yet or not.
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