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i mean yes they're bad but i still have a hard time seeing them be scummyIn post 1120, Dwlee99 wrote:I feel like this is more of a playstyle thing than an alignment indicative one. Kerset's returning posts were bad.
i mean i can tell that scum are doing something without necessarily knowing exactly who the scum invovled areIn post 1120, Dwlee99 wrote:This reasoning doesn't make sense unless you can point to scum that are hopping on kerset to avoid cakez. This kind of wagon speed tell is kinda short-sighted imo because if a lot of townies agree on a scumread the wagon will go fast. The game is mostly town, remember.
like just because i can't point out the source rn doesn't mean it isn't happening
and doesn't mean i shouldn't read into ithydra of skitter30 (she/her) and borkjerfkin (he/him)-
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probably because you're a leading wagon and as such you're high on our priority list?In post 1123, SirCakez wrote:Why have you spent so much time talking about me this game if you're not even sure I'm town?
Frankly I think your tantrum earlier looked pretty town
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you're taking my reasoning of 'maybe the stalled cakez wagon means cakez is town'In post 1122, SirCakez wrote:
I don't understand what this meansIn post 1117, Tigerente wrote:i'm not sure most poeple are saying this and i kinda dislike that you're sort of piggybacking off of my reasoning to lump both yourself and kerset in the same pool and call yourselves town
Obv not everyone is pooling us but I feel like it's a more common team suggestion than anything else
and applying it to both yourself and kerset (when i only said it about you)
and are using it to call yourself both town
and the way you're going about it feels kinda ~to me
and i was thinking tht gamma is a viable you-partner
and i'm talking abt you cuz you're the leading wagon? not sure why i need to think you're town to talk abt u
pedit i do think dwlee is townie ya
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Cakez can you go into this a little more? Why is the game "stalling on kerset" (i'm even not super sure that's really what happened here) make them more likely to be town and why are they necessarily limbait instead of just ineffective scum?In post 848, SirCakez wrote:I'm not interested in Kerset. Feels like limbait and also the game has stalled around the two wagons on him and I which makes me think he's also town and scum are just happy with this gamestate.
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I think it's important to separate this from whether or not cakez believes what he is sayingIn post 1137, Infinity 324 wrote:Also I think a50 and gamma are both very towny
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cakez did you really read the pages that happened in your absence?In post 1132, SirCakez wrote:Ok but I was using that logic before you even brought it up Tig
ok if the answer is no i'm trying to understand something
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ok can you just summarize in your own words how you think the kerset wagoned happenedIn post 1148, SirCakez wrote:Yes and I don't understand why that seems to be a point of confusion? I literally said I was catching up and responded to posts from over those 10 pages
i promise i'm going somewhere with this and this isn't pointless i'm just trying to understand something
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Infinity what are you thinking right now? I need some grounding and you're both a fresh set of eyes and a town fresh set of eyes
outside of these two (cakez/kerset) are you looking anywhere?
(I know you mentioned us earlier but please give me a goddamn fairer shake than dwlee "but so defensive!")
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ok thanks cakez, i appreciate it
i'm kinda settling on cakez is town because he doesn't really know how the kerset wagoned unfolded or why the leading wagon isn't him anymore
i'm p sure that if he were scum and were in a scum pt he would have been getting posts from teammates about him being the leading wagon, and about how he no longer wasn't (i.e. about how i made the kerset wagon a thing last night) but he's kinda unaware about all fo these happenings that i feel like he would know about as scum here given that he *was* the leading wagon
like he thinks kerset's wagon was just humdrumming along and also stalled and got a couple of more votes cuz kerset came in and psoted badly but that's not what happened, and i think scum-him would probably know the game events better given that they sort of directly concern him
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what else? at this point this is less about you and more about kerset; what are you seeing?In post 1158, SirCakez wrote:I mean if they both flipped town I'd probably reconsider but it's not solely based on them
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yesterday i decided to vote kerset and a couple of votes joinedIn post 1162, SirCakez wrote:I can't reread 50 pages how did it happen then?
and then last night i was like: man this cakez wagon has stalled since like p2, why is that, and why is the game dead. let's see what happens if we try to vote soemeone else and cajoled a bunch of people into voting kerset and it got to e1 overnight, and so i'm now trying to puzzle over what that means
like the whole wagon happened in less than an irl day if iirc
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Gamma i feep like you're avoiding answering the question: why were you townreading cakezIn post 1215, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay scratch that you were on dwlee before
But I also think the way you asked me about my vote reeks of being partnered with kerset
And can u explain in ur own words why that makes us partners with kerset?
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I'm worried that you have a ton of hedges on your vote here and a ton of scumspects in that list and aren't trying to figure out what's what in (us/cakez/umlaut/gamma/kerset) outside of vague suspicionIn post 1238, Datisi wrote:so i still prefer gamma and i'm not a huge fan of cakez's ~salt posts~ and cakez/skitt paranoia is not doing good things to my mental health and gamma/umlaut being on this wagon is not giving me good feels either
but all that said, with 3 days to deadline, it's probably time to see something happen (and i'm still not a fan of his posts either so)
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I don't think it's that AI. I've seen it from both alignments on people who flip both alignmentsIn post 1266, xHeavenx wrote:If Kerset is scum then my read on Cakez is unjustified, because I don't think Cakez tries to be all shock and awe at my hammer?
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I think the right play here is to claim:
I can 100% confirm the existence of an SK - we're a vig and we did NOT shoot a50 (we shot cakez)
it's possible we were roleblocked as one has just flipped, but it lends potential credence for cakez SK too and I think i just shoot him tonight again?
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the fuck?In post 1286, Dwlee99 wrote:Wait the vig claim has to be fake right? Role pm confirms one 2 person mafia.
VOTE: Tigerente [/post]
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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... domization
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
we're in one of those two
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In post 1281, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay so sorry to Cake and Tiger. I was going to push Tiger today for associatives but the other mafia is dead. Now this is basically a mountainous game given the roles we know are available and I almost want to random elim but meh
Pedit: Datisi there is no third mafia.
honestly i think because of this progression (the first post happened before i claimed) I'm all but certain dwlee is not groupscumIn post 1286, Dwlee99 wrote:Wait the vig claim has to be fake right? Role pm confirms one 2 person mafia.
VOTE: Tigerente [/post]
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it's possible it's the scum role but it's very possible that it's my role (my hypothesis is that we were supposed to be 1x), and if that's true i think massclaim is considerably weaker because i am contributing what would normally be misinformation about the setupIn post 1410, Dwlee99 wrote:Oh I was thinking the scum realized they should've been a godfather if Umlaut is roleblocker and Tiger is vigilante, and so one of those two or the scum got the wrong pm
anyway the umlaut block takes away some (not all) of my reasoning to dunk cakez today so i'm in agreement that we should just let stuff play out normally for now and reread based on the two red flips we have
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honestly i think your night action ended up being moderately pro-town if cakez is scum and very protown if he's town just because it corroborates across our slots and we literally can't be scum togetherIn post 1393, Umlaut wrote:I want Cakez to be scum because last night's actions are way funnier if he is.
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Jealous btw we just got the fuckin sprinklerIn post 1417, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:chilled at the beach all day and missed all the dramahydra of skitter30 (she/her) and borkjerfkin (he/him)-
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i need reasoning basically for any read list at this point because we are looking for two different scum who are scum for very different reasons and a spectrum readlist only works in very specific circumstancesIn post 1381, xHeavenx wrote:I'm at
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Penguin
Cakez
Scum
Then.
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