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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:01 am

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Me first!!

VOTE: Not_mafia
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Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:02 am

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Can someone simply the setup for me. I am slightly confused as it mixes both math and english.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:54 am

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In post 7, MegAzumarill wrote:VOTE: Zyla

Each day (after d1) we get 2 names and alignments. 1 of them is correct, the other is random.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #3) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:56 am

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In post 11, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 7, MegAzumarill wrote:VOTE: Zyla

Each day (after d1) we get 2 names and alignments. 1 of them is correct, the other is random.
No clue what happened to my post earlier.

So I guess that we wouldn't know which one is true and which one is false. :roll:
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Post Post #15 (isolation #4) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:29 am

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In post 14, HockeyFan wrote:Correct which is why we shouldnt hold too much stock into the tell.
Yes and no. because if one is dead the other gets confirmed.
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Post Post #17 (isolation #5) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:44 am

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In post 16, HockeyFan wrote:no? If we get Player X and Player Y. and Player x's role is innocent, and they get a true result, they will be annouced as town. However, lets say we roll a 6 on the 1VX(number of mafia), Players Y's role will be announced as town even if they are mafia so we do we really have confirms? I could just be stupid
Wont X elimination confirms that Y result was untrue.

Elimination does reveal their rule faction isn't it?
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Post Post #50 (isolation #6) » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:36 am

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In post 20, Zyla wrote:
In post 17, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 16, HockeyFan wrote:no? If we get Player X and Player Y. and Player x's role is innocent, and they get a true result, they will be annouced as town. However, lets say we roll a 6 on the 1VX(number of mafia), Players Y's role will be announced as town even if they are mafia so we do we really have confirms? I could just be stupid
Wont X elimination confirms that Y result was untrue.

Elimination does reveal their rule faction isn't it?
If X gets eliminated, it confirms that X's result was true, it does *not* confirm that Y's result was false.
Since "X is innocent" is true, that means that "X is innocent or ..." is true regardless of what comes after the or

My only question is what happens if both results are false
We are complicating it. It is simple

D1 reveals the identity of two players - One of it is True and the other is false. Eliminate one and the other gets confirmed.
In post 30, HockeyFan wrote:N_M is town
Too soon to say!
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
Way too soon to speculate!
In post 32, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
I was going to say this but he has to roll town in at least one game right? :^). or idk he could be scum for voting N_M the locktowned
The possibility of a rolling town is more than rolling scum.
In post 37, goats wrote:my rat died the other week.
What? Is there context to this?
In post 48, goats wrote:maybe shouldn't spam submit, no wonder it was lagging
Okay.

VOTE: goals

We got a cow for this, no need of a goat.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #7) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:07 am

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In post 52, cyrus62 wrote:so i think arc and t3 are scum together.
I have a better theory. I think you and hockey are scum together!

In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php? p=12940279#p12940279]post 59[/url], Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
So what part of what i said was scummy?
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12940490#p12940490]post 62[/url], Zyla wrote:Oh yeah. I don't think I've ever actually managed to hit scum first time so I forgot it was possible xD
Happens but rarely!
In post 63, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 59, Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
I think that's called a mind meld.do you also feel t3 is bad?
Having mid meld together!! More reasons to believe that i might be right about both of your scum partnership!
In post 65, cyrus62 wrote:Truth is when scum hunting I try to look for who isn't helping advanced the game and is just posting to post. Or is trying to seem townier then every one else.
This is a wrong tell.. there are plenty of town players who just lurk and play lousy. And i have seen more competent active players who outplay town players.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #8) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:55 am

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Prod received.

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For the record. Please mark permanent V/NA during weekends

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Post Post #205 (isolation #9) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:47 am

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In post 78, cyrus62 wrote:now i know t3 is scum trying to shade me early knowing im always a easy elimination.
That's what scum would say!
In post 83, T3 wrote:own cyrus does not give scumreads, scumleans, null, leantown, etc. Scum cyrus does. Scum cyrus is much more logical but town cyrus does wack stuff
I approve this....

VOTE: Cyrus
In post 199, Zyla wrote:
In post 184, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 183, Zyla wrote:
In post 182, cyrus62 wrote:discrediting everyone here aka chainsawing.and whiteknighting.
I don't know what chainsawing is, but WKing is defending people, and "too early to call them scum" is way to weak a defense to call it that.
Angel's post was scummy to me, but that's because she was dismissing Hockey and your (Cyrus) reads rather than trying to
discuss
them, not because she was 'whiteknighting'
so you think arc is scum too?
I find her post to be suspicious, yes
But atm I'm interested in what your definitions of those terms are
Can you tell which part of that you found suspscious?
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Post Post #206 (isolation #10) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:47 am

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btw Cyrus is at E-1

Cow >> Shoot!
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Post Post #208 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:48 am

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Goodjob! i am sure we got scum!
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Post Post #258 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:48 pm

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In post 229, Marashu wrote:
Day 2 begins.

OR
Not_Mafia is
TOWN
| ArcAngel9 is
TOWN


Official Vote Count 2.00
EliminationWith 8 alive, 5 votes are required for elimination.

Not Voting
(8): goats, T3 Megazumarill, imaginality, Zyla, Not_Mafia, HockeyFan, ArcAngel9

Deadline:
(expired on 2021-08-25 18:12:18).


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Day 2 begins
I know the truth... I am town!

I know how my push on cyrus would look like but i still blame him for being scummy!!

If there is truth in the result, it's my faction that makes NM is scum.

Those who trust me, come and vote the cow!!!

VOTE: Not_Mafia
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Post Post #266 (isolation #13) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:53 am

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the scum team is NM and hockeyfan
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Post Post #280 (isolation #14) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:24 pm

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In post 269, T3 wrote:lol arc
VOTE: arc
Either you and nm are both town or both scum, you do realize that.
In post 271, goats wrote:That's literally not possible T3

See, people are still contradicting. I am town and I know it. I thought the setup reveals one true result and one false result after D1.
Hence, Town claim on me is Truth (As i know my faction), Town claim on NM is fasle (makes him scum)

where am I confused on this?
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Post Post #282 (isolation #15) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:25 pm

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In post 281, imaginality wrote:This set-up reveals one true and one random result each day. The random result has the same chance of returning a guilty as picking any player at random would (37.5% last night since there were 3 scum alive from 8 players total).

So from your "I know I'm town" pov, NM could be either town or scum - the NM result gives no information to you. For the rest of us, we know you and NM definitely aren't scum-buddies but it's still possible for either of you to be scum.
now that's how you explain this shit. Good work

So NM may be town or scum.

Then we should eliminate the opportunist scum Hockey!

VOTE: Hockey
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Post Post #285 (isolation #16) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:52 pm

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 284, imaginality wrote:
In post 282, ArcAngel9 wrote: Then we should eliminate the opportunist scum Hockey!
What's your reason for calling Hockey opportunist?
because of these!!

Spoiler:
In post 53, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 50, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 20, Zyla wrote:
In post 17, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 16, HockeyFan wrote:no? If we get Player X and Player Y. and Player x's role is innocent, and they get a true result, they will be annouced as town. However, lets say we roll a 6 on the 1VX(number of mafia), Players Y's role will be announced as town even if they are mafia so we do we really have confirms? I could just be stupid
Wont X elimination confirms that Y result was untrue.

Elimination does reveal their rule faction isn't it?
If X gets eliminated, it confirms that X's result was true, it does *not* confirm that Y's result was false.
Since "X is innocent" is true, that means that "X is innocent or ..." is true regardless of what comes after the or

My only question is what happens if both results are false
We are complicating it. It is simple

D1 reveals the identity of two players - One of it is True and the other is false. Eliminate one and the other gets confirmed.
In post 30, HockeyFan wrote:N_M is town
Too soon to say!
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
Way too soon to speculate!
In post 32, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
I was going to say this but he has to roll town in at least one game right? :^). or idk he could be scum for voting N_M the locktowned
The possibility of a rolling town is more than rolling scum.
In post 37, goats wrote:my rat died the other week.
What? Is there context to this?
In post 48, goats wrote:maybe shouldn't spam submit, no wonder it was lagging
Okay.

VOTE: goals

We got a cow for this, no need of a goat.
This whole post is ew imo. Its a bunch of discrediting of reads because "iTs tOO eArLy"
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
In post 56, T3 wrote:VOTE: goates
T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes
In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 59, Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
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Post Post #286 (isolation #17) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:53 pm

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 284, imaginality wrote:
In post 282, ArcAngel9 wrote: Then we should eliminate the opportunist scum Hockey!
What's your reason for calling Hockey opportunist?
because of these!!

Spoiler:
In post 53, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 50, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 20, Zyla wrote:
In post 17, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 16, HockeyFan wrote:no? If we get Player X and Player Y. and Player x's role is innocent, and they get a true result, they will be annouced as town. However, lets say we roll a 6 on the 1VX(number of mafia), Players Y's role will be announced as town even if they are mafia so we do we really have confirms? I could just be stupid
Wont X elimination confirms that Y result was untrue.

Elimination does reveal their rule faction isn't it?
If X gets eliminated, it confirms that X's result was true, it does *not* confirm that Y's result was false.
Since "X is innocent" is true, that means that "X is innocent or ..." is true regardless of what comes after the or

My only question is what happens if both results are false
We are complicating it. It is simple

D1 reveals the identity of two players - One of it is True and the other is false. Eliminate one and the other gets confirmed.
In post 30, HockeyFan wrote:N_M is town
Too soon to say!
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
Way too soon to speculate!
In post 32, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:T3 is scum
I was going to say this but he has to roll town in at least one game right? :^). or idk he could be scum for voting N_M the locktowned
The possibility of a rolling town is more than rolling scum.
In post 37, goats wrote:my rat died the other week.
What? Is there context to this?
In post 48, goats wrote:maybe shouldn't spam submit, no wonder it was lagging
Okay.

VOTE: goals

We got a cow for this, no need of a goat.
This whole post is ew imo. Its a bunch of discrediting of reads because "iTs tOO eArLy"
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
In post 56, T3 wrote:VOTE: goates
T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes
In post 60, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 59, Zyla wrote:
In post 58, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: arcangel
Wait wtf cyrus might be town?
What about this vote makes him towny?
It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with
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Post Post #289 (isolation #18) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:57 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

the posts i quoted were your initial reads which didn't have basis or reasons to suspect at all.

I am calling you an opportunist that you're basing on a basis which had none in it.
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Post Post #350 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:08 am

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Anyone else feels that MegA was replaced because he couldn't handle the scum pressure?
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Post Post #354 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:34 am

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VOTE: HockeyFan

still being opportunist!!! SCUM!!
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Post Post #365 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:45 pm

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So the scum team is - hockey and goats after all..

Imaginality is town btw!
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Post Post #366 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:46 pm

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Actually scratch that... Goats probably being a goat. Hockey is sure scum and maybe Mega is his partner
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Post Post #368 (isolation #23) » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:48 am

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In post 367, goats wrote:explain then. I'm wolf reading you cause all you do is omgus
I already made my case about hockey. ISO and read!
Mega is more based on the vibe and interaction. If i am wrong about Mega and then my next scum read is YOU!
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Post Post #369 (isolation #24) » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:49 am

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In post 367, goats wrote:all you do is omgus
btw OMGUS is the biggest town tell. Scum will be careful with their votes but town votes everyone because they don't know who the scum is.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #25) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:35 am

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Please vote HockeyFan
He is scum!
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Post Post #391 (isolation #26) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:28 am

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In post 389, HockeyFan wrote:sigh is the t3/arc pair actually a thing
Exactly these kinds of things that make you look even more scummy!!!
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Post Post #438 (isolation #27) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:46 am

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VOTE: Kop

Let this game moving, i want some scum flip now!!
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Post Post #446 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:42 am

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What are you saying?

I am the first in order on day 1, that makes me town.

How is Imaginality is clear? Goats is obviously town becuz between goats and Kop, one of them was scum, since kop flipped scum goats is most likely town.
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Post Post #453 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:00 pm

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What is going on.....

Goats is not scum.
I am not clearing NM yet but he is likely town.

T3, hope you're not fooling around.

I am prepared for zyla or imaging to eliminate today.
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Post Post #488 (isolation #30) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:58 pm

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NM - Your thoughts on Goats vs Imaginality ?
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Post Post #513 (isolation #31) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:16 pm

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mod - v/la until Monday
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Post Post #593 (isolation #32) » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:10 pm

Post by ArcAngel9 »

this was a quick eliminate game.

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