Open 832: Nightless Exploder Pandemonium III - Game Over

Clemency · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:40 am

everyone hear me out

Clemency · Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:41 am

VOTE: enchant before he gets to post again

Clemency · Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:42 am

i read through the last pandemonium and i refuse to give n_m the nuanced game that he wants

Clemency · Post Post #8 (isolation #3) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:46 am

if this game goes past 200 posts i will be disappointed beyond belief

Clemency · Post Post #9 (isolation #4) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:47 am

In post 7, numberQ wrote:Here, have some nuance

VOTE: Clemency

explode:numberQ

Clemency · Post Post #13 (isolation #5) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:53 am

but i wanna blow up

Clemency · Post Post #14 (isolation #6) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:53 am

and act like i dont know nobody

Clemency · Post Post #18 (isolation #7) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:57 am

but none of them are quite like me

Clemency · Post Post #24 (isolation #8) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:02 am

numberQ wrote:Granted I haven't played this setup before, so idk what strategies are known to be good if any

kill town so we get to explode, proceed to explode on the first person that slights you

Clemency · Post Post #27 (isolation #9) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:07 am

ah, ive missed the monky so

Clemency · Post Post #31 (isolation #10) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:12 am

In post 29, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 21, numberQ wrote:Granted I haven't played this setup before, so idk what strategies are known to be good if any

Spoiler: strategy for each phase
1) cows
2) moo

also, clemency can explode me any time

flattery will afford you no mercy
probably

Clemency · Post Post #35 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:32 am

In post 32, T3 wrote:VOTE: clemency
let's get to the cool mech stuff
also your avatar is weird

thats rich coming from you

Clemency · Post Post #36 (isolation #12) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:33 am

pls dont vote me off while im sleeping thanks

Clemency · Post Post #82 (isolation #13) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:35 pm

rise and grind gamers

Clemency · Post Post #84 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:18 am

counterpoint: scum will usually attempt to seem townish in order to not be voted out
therefore, enchant is exhibiting scum behaviour by being townish
do the right thing people

Clemency · Post Post #103 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:25 am

i will play seriously because im terrified of upsetting people but i will be upset myself if i dont get to

explode:

Clemency · Post Post #106 (isolation #16) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:22 am

idc what anyone reads me as i just want you to know that i will be your bomb d2 if i live till then
think of me as an elim and vote

Clemency · Post Post #108 (isolation #17) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:01 am

yeah im giving away the autonomy of my explode and turning it into an orthodox vote process
right now it doesnt mean much but what i'm thinking is if i continue with the same idea d2 it'll locktown me because scum would not and should not ever do this
obviously dont take it into consideration yet because day 1 i can say that just to prevent dying as scum and losing the game
correct me if my logic is wrong

Clemency · Post Post #109 (isolation #18) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:12 am

i came up with most of this logic just now and i posted it too early (d1), so i'm sorry about that part, but just to elaborate;
the idea is that making this post and committing to it day2 onwards makes me fully locktown, literally IC
if i'm town and i do it, all goes as planned
if im scum and i do it, it would be stupid because i'd never wanna go 1 for 1
if im scum and i back out, i get exploded on instantly
if im town and i back out, im an idiot and should be banned for gamethrowing

Clemency · Post Post #110 (isolation #19) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:13 am

if you see a flaw in my logic i want you to tell me immediately so i can cry about embarassing myself by being too energetic

Clemency · Post Post #111 (isolation #20) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:22 am

im sorry i got really excited

Clemency · Post Post #116 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:45 am

In post 112, Almost50 wrote:
In post 108, Clemency wrote:yeah im giving away the autonomy of my explode and turning it into an orthodox vote process
right now it doesnt mean much but what i'm thinking is if i continue with the same idea d2 it'll locktown me because scum would not and should not ever do this
obviously dont take it into consideration yet because day 1 i can say that just to prevent dying as scum and losing the game
correct me if my logic is wrong
Mate, Scum won't explode against Townies. You're either GOOD Town who will keep your word, BAD Town who will still explode in whomever you want, or SCUM who won't explode willingly at all.

but that's the thing right? i have no motivation to go back on my word as town
and if i refuse to explode i'll immediately be exploded on

Clemency · Post Post #117 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:46 am

i'd become a living elim and the "night kill" of the nightless game

Clemency · Post Post #118 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:48 am

anyways my melatonin's kicking in and there's still 12 days to try and sus out a scum on day 1

Clemency · Post Post #123 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:54 am

well no the idea is there is absolutely 0 motivation for me to not go through with it if im town
and if im scum and dont commit you have 100% reason to blow me up right then and there
i just find super fascinating the idea that this setup might make for a post that scum would literally never make y'feel

Clemency · Post Post #126 (isolation #25) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:57 am

in all fairness you shouldnt buy a single thing im saying yet because i got too excited and started posting my idea while still thinking about the details
optimally i wouldnt even bring it up till d2

Clemency · Post Post #128 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:59 am

i wanna go boom
it has to be me, part of the strat, or it'd be fallible

Clemency · Post Post #130 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:01 am

In post 127, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 109, Clemency wrote:i came up with most of this logic just now and i posted it too early (d1), so i'm sorry about that part, but just to elaborate;
the idea is that making this post and committing to it day2 onwards makes
me fully locktown, literally IC

if i'm town and i do it, all goes as planned
if im scum and i do it, it would be stupid because i'd never wanna go 1 for 1
if im scum and i back out, i get exploded on instantly
if im town and i back out, im an idiot and should be banned for gamethrowing
like you realize how much wifom there is in this plan right? I feel like

If you’re scum, you’re trying to incept the idea into our heads that you are super towny for proposing this and that we should have a scummier player sacrifice themselves for the bomb instead of you, and simultaneously you get to avoid the D1 elim making it better odds to survive if you don’t feel like trying

Like why do you want to us to do this to you, anyway, if you’re town

@mod
on D2, does twilight phase start immediately when someone explodes? So no other explodes after that first one mean anything? (Until the next day)

as for why i'd want you to do this to me
town will have to explode in order to win this game if it goes past d1 no matter what
i consider myself, well, bad
im not really good with the words, words, words side of mafia and i exist more so as a content generation machine than an analysist
i'd argue im the best townie to have go boom in this whole list

Clemency · Post Post #132 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:02 am

In post 129, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 123, Clemency wrote:well no the idea is there is absolutely 0 motivation for me to not go through with it if im town
and if im scum and dont commit you have 100% reason to blow me up right then and there
i just find super fascinating the idea that this setup might make for a post that scum would literally never make y'feel
well scum!you can say this to to towncred, bc in order for it to really be antiwincon we have to both accept your plan and decide to go through with it together, and if we fail either step, you get the towncred for saying your post

And if we go through with both steps and you do blow up, you’re town but it’s too late and doesn’t matter

then commit
no matter what some townie has to go
what reason would you have to not commiting to using me as a targeted boom dictated by the majority

Clemency · Post Post #133 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:03 am

In post 131, T3 wrote:i like the clemency iv interaction

i like you

Clemency · Post Post #134 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:03 am

im tryin to think big here
im trying to crack n_m's big game wide open

Clemency · Post Post #136 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:09 am

by content generation i usually mean i try to push early wagons to cause pressure and create interaction, whether comical or not to keep the game alive and moving
i do end up coming off somewhat spammy though

Clemency · Post Post #139 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:14 am

honestly i dont know too much, i kinda came into this game memes blazing so i havent started focusing too much yet
how many votes is cows at im sleepy

Clemency · Post Post #143 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:17 am

yeah i can live with that
VOTE: cows

Clemency · Post Post #147 (isolation #34) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:20 am

ah
UNVOTE:

Clemency · Post Post #158 (isolation #35) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:26 am

In post 154, Almost50 wrote:@IV: A little paranoia is good. Too much is bad though. If X is Scum we win. If not, you have Clemency as your first bomb and I volunteer to be 2nd.

i repeat all of this is meaningless on day1 because you can say it for towncred
it was my mistake to say it too early in the first place
the idea is i'd be locktown when i commit to it on d2 and it'd award me no benefit

Clemency · Post Post #165 (isolation #36) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:36 am

the entire idea is that right now it doesnt matter yet, yes, thats what ive been trying to say
im just saying that committing fully to being the town bomb locktowns me d2 onwards
i was writing the idea as i was coming up with it and i realised too late that it'll only confuse things to bring it up now
the best time i think would have been just before we vote someone out/twilight

Clemency · Post Post #166 (isolation #37) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:36 am

a50's just a pedant :^)

Clemency · Post Post #167 (isolation #38) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:37 am

my eyes hurt resisting sleeping pills is painful

Clemency · Post Post #170 (isolation #39) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:40 am

waaaa

Clemency · Post Post #268 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:36 am

In post 264, innocentvillager wrote:Clem fell off the face of the earth after taking sleeping pills too

How many scum are in this game

didnt feel like playing yesterday sorry just reading this today
feeling a bit demotivated because people are misreading my idea/im not good at communicating it

im ok with a cows vote how many is it to elim

Clemency · Post Post #269 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:37 am

In post 265, Almost50 wrote:@IV:

I would rather we got over the "we hope to get Scum on D1" plan and started planning for the explosion phase. Here's what I think:

I would assign YOU (because you ARE my only confident TR) to list 3 ordered pairs, as in:

A to explode on B
C to explode on D
E to explode on F

I would also recommend that you take into account that Clemency, A50 & Pooky have volunteered to be the 3 suicide bombers, so your task would be to assign each a target and order the pairs.

Should one of the suicide bombers refuse to fulfil their duty the "target" should then nuke them (ex: A refuses to explode on B, B should explode on A). You should also probably assign a vice-leader in case Scum went out of their way and tried to nuke you before the 3 explosions were done with. That vice-leader does NOT have the right to edit your original pairs, but can decide what's next. (Of course if the Scum who exploded on you is on your original 6 that means assigning the "now free suicidal bomber" a new target)

Think about it and let me know what you think

i suppose this is a good evolution of what i had in mind

Clemency · Post Post #296 (isolation #42) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:42 am

VOTE: cows
this is by far the most comfortable elim on the list for me so im down

Clemency · Post Post #303 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:04 am

i'd argue that chaotic shooting puts us at a ridiculous statistical disadvantage
there's no reason to not think and coordinate our actions

Clemency · Post Post #341 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:38 am

i did not expect this game to be this slow when i signed up ngl

Clemency · Post Post #346 (isolation #45) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:05 am

just realised i dont have the highest postcount
day ruined

Clemency · Post Post #349 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:12 am

In post 347, Pavowski wrote:
In post 346, Clemency wrote:just realised i dont have the highest postcount
day ruined
You can fix that anytime and apparently it will raise your stock with schadd

im working on it champ
this quality humour doesnt just write itself you know
i gotta work the noggin

Clemency · Post Post #351 (isolation #47) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:16 am

i imagine the idea is that a low post count shows a lack of need to present towny

Clemency · Post Post #355 (isolation #48) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:31 am

yeah im not saying i agree

Clemency · Post Post #358 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:44 am

In post 356, Almost50 wrote:
In post 355, Clemency wrote:yeah im not saying i agree
You didn't say you disagree either

i did, in #355

Clemency · Post Post #388 (isolation #50) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:40 pm

i'm not feeling so hot on the cows wagon anymore ngl
something about the attitude around it irks me
we managed to "survive" the meme phase of the game and we're in real mafia now and i feel it's in scum's best interest to try and end d1 fast and spin more chaos

Clemency · Post Post #389 (isolation #51) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:40 pm

yeah i think im gonna UNVOTE:

Clemency · Post Post #399 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:59 am

the type of meme that is orchestrated by a moderator as infamous as n_m

Clemency · Post Post #406 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:55 am

In post 403, charlemagne wrote:for the record i unironically agree with pooky: the fact that cows is not dead yet is moderate-strength evidence that they're scum

In post 388, Clemency wrote:i'm not feeling so hot on the cows wagon anymore ngl
something about the attitude around it irks me
we managed to "survive" the meme phase of the game and we're in real mafia now and i feel it's in scum's best interest to try and end d1 fast and spin more chaos
hmm idk how to feel about this post. idk if the "real mafia" this is just a facade and this entire game is just a meme

would this game be 17 pages in if we havent departed meme territory already

Clemency · Post Post #411 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:16 am

this is literally what i wanted to avoid :c

Clemency · Post Post #412 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:17 am

i've come to realize claiming you're gonna do anything d2 during d1 is null if not +scum

Clemency · Post Post #414 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:29 am

the odds of winning as town d2 onwards are so much drastically lower

Clemency · Post Post #416 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:35 am

at what point does this go from a meme to a scumclaim

Clemency · Post Post #419 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:42 am

enchant + pooky scum 100% locked in i'm not changing my read
are we not doing fucking context anymore
those posts are 400 spots apart
you're literally comparing an rvs post to a completely different post that isn't even talking about the same thing fuck off

Clemency · Post Post #420 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:43 am

VOTE: pooky
i'm not moving my vote fuck this stupid game

Clemency · Post Post #423 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:45 am

not reading this thread until the day is over bye

Clemency · Post Post #447 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:26 pm

i cant believe y'all are seeing scum literally go "no no i wanna do this thing that's extremely detrimental to town for memes" and you're all just cool with that

Clemency · Post Post #453 (isolation #62) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:22 am

In post 448, Pavowski wrote:
In post 441, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 432, Pavowski wrote:Ugh I hate this stuff =\
what do you hate? who is scum and why
Hate when people get genuinely worked up over this dumb game.

i'm sorry i'm just frustrated
i feel like i'm the only person actually seeing pooky's posts rn

Clemency · Post Post #454 (isolation #63) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:31 am

In post 452, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 447, Clemency wrote:i cant believe y'all are seeing scum literally go "no no i wanna do this thing that's extremely detrimental to town for memes" and you're all just cool with that
yeah
hell he's going to do in d2 as mafia
or are you saying that because he's deliberately giving himself a free d1 pass thatll be accepted from the majority of the players here
which if so is def plausible but walk me through why that possibility outweighs the other ones

when i began trying to lay out the things i wanted to have happen day two it was when i was still trying to figure out how to play around the setup and i assumed day would end soon since it happened to in the last two games of this
now that things are more unsure and unclear scum wants two things
-to end day one with a town kill
-to make day two as unorganised as possible
the best move for me would have been to not say anything about day two actions at all, but i didn't realize that until i'd already gone into that
from there, the best possible move is to have as concise a plan as possible, which was that

I

would be the bomb and

I

would commit because

I

was the dumbass that spoke up first and too early
which exactly why scum would want to obfuscate a clear course of action as much as possible
A50 is saying he wants to explode too because A50 is just a not_mafia who talks more but beyond that "memes lol" is the perfect cover for scum to do whatever the hell they want this game

Clemency · Post Post #455 (isolation #64) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:31 am

i dont know if any of that makes sense im rambling and im tired and cold

Clemency · Post Post #490 (isolation #65) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:44 am

VOTE: A50

Clemency · Post Post #511 (isolation #66) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:37 am

VOTE: pooky
pog

Clemency · Post Post #542 (isolation #67) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:30 am

im looking forward to winning d1

Clemency · Post Post #603 (isolation #68) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:28 am

In post 600, innocentvillager wrote:it feels like an uphill battle getting reads when 70% of the plist isn't even trying to play the game but whatever i will still try. i wanted a green role PM after a miserable scum streak and here it is lol. there's always rereading i guess

i just want you to know i think you're a darling

Clemency · Post Post #635 (isolation #69) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:15 am

In post 633, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im not going to let myself get tilted by people not listening to me

i am quite unpleasant when i do that

you're quite unpleasant already
i've never considered actively avoiding a player until now