Open 832: Nightless Exploder Pandemonium III - Game Over

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i read through the last pandemonium and i refuse to give n_m the nuanced game that he wants

this is exactly why i inned

i'm washed and ready to squash

Literally flashwagon was how we powered through day 1 you can read the previous game

Scum doesn’t want this to be a real game

Exploding isn’t that fun honestly it’s just losing

let’s win this shit on day 1

this post seems like it was supposed to feel motivating but i can't help but feel


from it
you people have suffered

[cowsloveSushirolls]

VOTE: T3

Hey T3, hey Pavowski, hey CLSR.

chainsaw

VOTE: StrangeMatter

[cowsloveSushirolls]

Granted I haven't played this setup before, so idk what strategies are known to be good if any

Spoiler: strategy for each phase

1) cows
2) moo

also, clemency can explode me any time

[cowsloveSushirolls]

flattery will afford you no mercy
probably

>: i'll just find a different person to do it to

IV!! i heard you love rolling scum

[cowsloveSushirolls]

what is that i see? the lack of a momentum on an incredibly enticing counterwagon??????????
VOTE: T3

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i don't want to be town with clemency voters
that's all i can say

[cowsloveSushirolls]

schadd can be town yes eyes y wayes

[cowsloveSushirolls]

ok here's a super awesome readslist that i may or may not elaborate on later
not ordered. assume people not mentioned are null

schadd
iv
strange
null:
pooky
t3
evil:
almost50 and number1 are tvs

pocketed by: (???)
clemency

[cowsloveSushirolls]

imagine using a readslist in a meme game

you're lucky i can't blow you up yet

does flattery work on pookythemagicalbear I'm fearing for my life

also numberq* rofl

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i love flattery ngl

you get your own tier

Spoiler: pookythemagicalbear tier

pookythemagicalbear

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i was completely unaware pavowski had posted and i suddenly have much better feelings for t3


UNVOTE: t3

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i enjoyed it, thank you a50

[cowsloveSushirolls]

im town

BLOWIN DA FUCK UP!!!

don't get the schadd trs can someone explain?

gut-based, this sequence feels awkward but in a towny way. see if i can put it into words
also, schadd is pro-clemen

[cowsloveSushirolls]

serious vote,

not a single post in this game has pinged me more than cow's entire iso

, this post especially is +scum

this sounds like you have problems with the fundamentals of my play, which is actually pretty cool i haven't been dunked on this early

for example, yeah the post you quoted is textbook scum, the context was that it was a chainsaw defense of clemency that i continued because t3 voted someone who i thought was a lurker
when it turned out that they weren't actually lurking i unvoted t3 because their votes weren't as godawful as i thought

do my readlist be bangin tho?

[cowsloveSushirolls]

cows gets beetlejuiced

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cows gets beetlejuiced

You were almost E1’d how do you feel about that and why did u come in right as it happened lol

i don't know what to feel, contempt? i'm bothered that the people off the wagon are some of my top town iir the wagon correctly
i woke up from a nap

[cowsloveSushirolls]

if you see a flaw in my logic i want you to tell me immediately so i can cry about embarassing myself by being too energetic

for the clemen thing i'm just taking it at face value. i think at worst they're scum trying to artificially speed up the game but they have

not

played like that to me + i've already felt fine pinning them as town

[cowsloveSushirolls]

so you guys actually don't know clemen? i figured you guys did but 127 for example pins the whole thing as wifom and doesn't really lean on which one he's more likely to do
think after this i'll drop the topic entirely. bigger fishies to fry

[cowsloveSushirolls]

MINDS
MELD

semantics but neither of them cited gut as their reasoning for voting me so it's just agreement no

but i like the idea of us having entirely separate towncores and fighting each other for it
why is that even the case anyways T3

[cowsloveSushirolls]

how about the opposite scenario where if town grows to be convinced they'll be exploded on, they'll get a potshot at an actual scum?

think all of d2 should be based around forcing others to explode yeah

on a side note say i were limmed now, i think if that happened scum being able to explode is appealing but there aren't very many 0bvtown candidates
if d1 is brought to deadline it's not as appealing (more posts for town to

ponder

when they flip)

think the bottom is more appealing when thinking about the opposite scenario but i'd /think/ that a separate strategy would be better if i were to be limmed now

but i'm not fond of mechanics talk someone help me on this

[cowsloveSushirolls]

whoops hold on

if d1 is brought to deadline it's not as appealing (more posts for town to ponder when they flip) then there's thread consensus townreads to demonish W

cringe i used "limmed now" twice
not very town novice exploder of me

cow if you self vote and you're town i will let you guide my bomb tommorrow

how long do i have to do it for

[cowsloveSushirolls]

you'd have to like actually be elimmed today and flip green for this offer to apply tommorrow

ok i thought about it

Spoiler:

[cowsloveSushirolls]

do you not even have a suspect

bahaha i do but i have a couple of drafted posts that i need to organize first
i jus don't see how your offer is fun for either of us

[cowsloveSushirolls]

well your goal is to survive d1 in order to blow someone up

i will do that for you.

my goal is to murder you cuz I think you're a bad guy possibly.

I also really love steak and sushi.

but that's stripping you of your free will and i'd only commit if i hated you as a player because it'd be kinda funny
but i do not
why must you be punished for bad reads by following my bad reads

btw you only get one or the other
the sushi's in my first stomach chamber which you can safely extract from me if i like die from lethal injection or something i dont know how they carry eliminations here. the meat gets tainted tho
if i explode then the steak's cooked but the sushi is ruined
youve decided that you're team sushi but mmmmmmmm yummy cooked beef woooow

[cowsloveSushirolls]

uhhh my suspect's probably town but it's a huge ball of wifom let me submit it soon

[cowsloveSushirolls]

ok here i go trying to feed the numberQ flames. you can read whatever work i did but he's probably only scum with like, enchant + ???

Spoiler:

Here, have some nuance

VOTE: Clemency

context: clemen voted enchant, asked for a flashwagon to go against nm's wishes for a nuanced game. normally don't care for funny RVS chainsaws but could be worth mentioning given the additional opportunity for a win

no flashwagons please

I’m finally town lol

What's wrong with flash wagons? I like them.

likes flashwagons, doesn't participate in one right in front of him. feelsbad (and as silly as it is for me to suggest this, gives points to enchant/numberq?)

Granted I haven't played this setup before, so idk what strategies are known to be good if any

performative? there's no doubt that mafia talked about strategy before the game started

Yknow I actually forgot that scum instantly lose if they're eliminated D1.

I'm trying to understand if there's some balance consideration behind that. I guess the chances of a scum victory drastically decrease if one dies D1, to the point that it just makes more sense to end the game? Or maybe it's just a quirk of the ruleset that N_M thought would be fun, no clue lol
[snip] -CLSR

VOTE: cows love sushi rolls

sweet rvs

would also consider performative but sure i'll get with the shtick right now
there's a post i made earlier that i'm combining with this one

sweet rvs

i do not understand the point of this statement other than to ask what the vote was for in a roundabout way
feel like this contrasts the 'thoughts-on-your-sleeve' vibe i got from your iso and i'm wondering if it means anything

and i still think it has some sort of truth, the cold demeanor's out of place given that they have both me and schadd at null

like i think number's kinda scummy but the ball of wifom comes into play when you think about what the average scum pt here would have
like i'd imagine it would dive into mechanics/the scum gameplan right away since the game's supposed to be fast paced

number's oblivious to both of these which if he's mafia i'd imagine would only make sense if neither of his partners bothered to talk about it or he's wifoming it up with whatever scumteam
and i think the former's more likely than the latter because it's super ballsy to fake townslip (for lack of a better phrase) twice and not do anything when nobody bites

so the questions if you want to tinfoil are

- who are we looking for?
- are those people that fall under the above scummy?
i'll find that out tomorrow i guess

so yeah, i actually don't have any suspects LOL
but i did think that while making this post that i'm cutting clemency and strangematter too much slack so i think that i start there
VOTE: StrangeMatter

[cowsloveSushirolls]

I still don’t get the cows scumreads, but I don’t know if I have him as a guttown rn. I think his response to my first post on page 1 felt towny like a real emotional reaction but idk I guess maybe he decided to fake it.

in that situation i'm not sure why a genuine emotion in response to your post makes me gut townier
is it a general thing?

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clemency is slightly +scum because yes in fact you SHOULD have waited until d2 and not doing so was either a mistake or a calculation, and i think it's slightly +rand to be the latter
but cows is more scum and i will keep my vote there for right now

101 cows response erasure is not okay!!

[cowsloveSushirolls]

contempt

(cows does not actually know what the word contempt means)

if cows flips town i volunteer to be first suicider tomm

o yeah clem wants to do so also, do you have any issues with that?

kk i'm sleeping

[cowsloveSushirolls]

VOTE: cows

The vote on strange makes no sense, and somehow putting Clem and Strange on similar footing here also makes no sense

it does when you're cows

i think strange is good at towntelling when pressured (would think doubly so in the alt. win condition to the point where i can prob mention it out loud and have nothing change) but i put it in the backburner so i could tie the wagons and see what happens
clem has a set plan on d2 but i don't see people bothering to try and read them today when disregarding that
which is hard because the majority of his logs include that but even i'm reading them lazily this way
what was your read on me before i voted strange?

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I agreed with a lot of stuff in 201 so that’s good I guess?

why aren't you unvoting numberq/putting in the work to find partners then?

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Going to put my 10 cents into this but I really don't think its a good idea to put people at L-1 (Isn't it called E-1 though?),

especially since pressure should never be based off only votes, rather if you have a question to ask, you should ask it.

does this mean that you aren't actually suspecting T3 right now? who are your current suspects?

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why aren't you unvoting numberq/

putting in the work to find partners then?

okay i'm giving you an out here because this phase is unique in that mafia surrender if you find and lim just one but i don't see why numberq nets the highest chance of being mafia here

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UNVOTE: cows

lots of fluff but i don't like this wagon anymre

so basically T3 finally read the part that says he loses if he busses on d1

real scum t3 would hardroll traitor novice exploder then fake a cop sided on me

[cowsloveSushirolls]

There was no flash wagon happening when I said that

wording error of mine, i mean that there was an opportunity to help create one and you just voted the person who wanted to

What do you mean that I'm oblivious to the mechanics/scum gameplan? The former, okay sure, I asked about strategies and had forgotten about the insta-lose thing. But at best that's null imo, scum could easily fake lack of knowledge, and even more easily probe for town strats. As for the latter, how would you know whether or not I'm oblivious to the scum gameplan? Not sure what was meant by that statement.

well, i might be projecting a bit when making these awesome logical leaps
as scum i never try to fake townslips because it always feels more fulfilling to get townread for other reasons
in fact i think it's kinda scummy
are you that kind of person, numberq?

i think the use of the word "oblivious" is also wrong, unaware seems better
because oblivious, to me, seems like it would imply that there's a world that you're with XXX scumteam who talked about mechanics and you didn't bother to absorb any of it
but i heavily doubt that one's the case. i may not have answered your question here so get back to me

Felt like you were building a case on me there, is the "townslipping would be too ballsy" logic really strong enough to start probing elsewhere?

yeah it was a case but voting you would mean that i'd have to ignore both slips you did, your earlier logs and assume that the rest of the scumteam is the people that haven't talked about mechanics here
i don't know you, but why wouldn't it be? i think mafia isn't above using really easy ways to get townread (would assume at least one mafia in the mechanics spammers for ex) but townslipping isn't really one i expect to be that reliable, and so i dont imagine scum doing it in the first place

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UNVOTE: cows

lots of fluff

but i don't like this wagon anymre

shunt up pee three

I mean I see where your enchant partner thing is coming from it’s just that one post which I feel is kinda weak but I see it ig

like I can definitely see numberQ partnered with non enchant, one vote is hardly a flashwagon

the chainsaw thing is definitely weak but i'm somewhat proud of everything else

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i like strange's 236 but it's another one of those things that you gotta sleep on

[cowsloveSushirolls]

@cows, what's with the vote and subsequent ignoring of Strange?

if it seems like that then i apologize. 245 is a personal reminder to do more with their posts when i get sleep which is uh, the same excuse as charle my bad

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cows l.s.r.:

did you start to approach the game differently when you got a bunch of people voting you? do you feel like you're in the clear now?

yeah, but i don't exactly have strong feelings over me being put at e-1 in seconds (which you don't have to believe, iunno how to convey that feeling)
i think the only difference between my play before and during the wagon is that i purposefully post at a higher rate/ give actual content to see how those people respond and attempt to justify their votes

i don't see how i could think im in the clear right now

[cowsloveSushirolls]

that said i can't try to do that today because my whole day's kinda busy
just don't get too antsy, smile

why is pooky in the POE again?

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if you guys don't actually care for the d1 WC please tell me so i can self vote and enjoy some boom in spec chat

[cowsloveSushirolls]

a t eeeeee

why does Steve Jobs think that "face time" video calling with be great.. nobody video calls!! iphone 4 fail..

if you guys don't actually care for the d1 WC please tell me so i can self vote and enjoy some boom in spec chat

would you be willing to be the first to press boom if we didn't elim you here

would it just be a race to see whoever explodes first bet. me/you/clem/a50
think that sounds like a terrible idea but i'd probably default to yes. log it in the books

[cowsloveSushirolls]

ok so who would you press boom on

i like {t3, pavow, strange} for a pool but i haven't looked at strange's posts deeper yet

[cowsloveSushirolls]

no wim

ur mum is no wim

Do you think there's scum voting me right now?

gonna butt in and say that there's no reason there should be a voting stalemate right now unless we were both town (or even both scum)
i think scum leaves looking better by finishing a lim on me than you

To provide some content, I actually like cows a little more over the last few posts, and self-voting is something scum won't do here as it's directly against wincon.

But claiming "I'll self-vote" isn't self-voting.

but i'm not gonna self-vote until the poll finalizes

[cowsloveSushirolls]

You hit it exactly, I feel better about the people voting cows than the people voting you, independent of my personal reads on you both

feels kinda funny since i remember like 1 scummy thing from a50 that you can't pinpoint into an agenda he has
or _schadd
IV is ehhhhhhhh i'm starting to hedge a lot on that one but i've gotten the impression that they have a polarized town/scum meta, which is why nobody is touching them?

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Speaking of, since you are here CLSR, can you give your thoughts on my slot which you've been ignoring for way too long?

Multiple people have asked you for your thoughts on my slot and you've said that you scumread me in #329, but not explicitly explained.

you are Null because i think you haven't really towntold and also because i think charle's case is Bad
but you know in that same post it says that i have mafia work to do involving you

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i imagine the idea is that a low post count shows a lack of need to present towny

THIS IS TRUE

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i'd bomb enchant yes

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i feel adequately pressured let me put in the work today
dont tell my family but i want it more

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damn do i apologize or be mighty proud about this record breaking accomplishment

[cowsloveSushirolls]

the case on cows is:

he's not dead yet

and every other time we played this meme setup we randomly wagoned a townie d1

they died

been marinating this in my head for a little while
doesn't this mean that scum's more likely to be in the later show-ers who just adjusted to the more nuanced atmosphere that IV forced into the game
OR MAYBE IT IS IV
legitimately would flip a coin

[cowsloveSushirolls]

lulw i wanted to do so much more but it's 1 in the morning
i'm not tired though so i'll churn something out

[cowsloveSushirolls]

you are Null because i think you haven't really towntold and

also because i think charle's case is Bad

i'm changing my mind on this one but charle's treatment of my slot has soured my opinion of them this game
only by a little bit though
i was reading the large normal that he played in and i kinda forgot how hard he got dunked
and it could be hindsight bias but there's a lot of things in their iso that pinged me HARD
do i see any of those signs here? no. i'll pretend that it's not because of the wildly different circumstances between those two games

[cowsloveSushirolls]

yeeeeah ok here's my top 5 (ordered)
numberq [conditional, refer to my other numberq posts]
iv
charlemagne
pooky
clemency
here's my bottom 6 (also ordered)
_schadd
pavowski
a50
SM
T3
enchant?
this won't be too important in the grand scheme of things because of the plan set in place for a50 to explode which will change a lot but
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i think my b6 suffers from "fits in too many scumteams" bias or whatever i can call the phrase
which is like when my scumreads err towards people who don't have that many anti-pairings. oftentimes it catches random lurkers but i don't know what else to do with them y'know
but i believe that even with that in mind they have a slight correlation (there's a push to make your relationships ambiguous as mafia, spew is terrifying)
looking forward to IMPROVE these reads

[cowsloveSushirolls]

have a wonderful night everyone
sorry about travis
t3 start towntelling it's great to play with town!you

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god damn!

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i promised to explode immediately on day start

rood, i'm not townreading you for that

clemency scum claimed

also cows is also scum

if i was scum with clem i'd force them to interact with me in thread because i dont like feeling sad and ignored

[cowsloveSushirolls]

ok who r u scum with

idk i looked at the plist again and i don't really see a scumteam that i'd have fun with

cows/numberq/a50 locking this in

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oh shit did i get myself modkilled LOL

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actually its way too ambiguous for that to be the case
cows lives
brb

[cowsloveSushirolls]

strangematter, can you give me your opinions on the current major wagons?

[cowsloveSushirolls]

could see enchant town of one of schadd/clem flip scum: 407 and 419 are both overly aggressive reactions to their play this game
i mean there's a world where it's wack distancing but does scum even wanna do that this dayphase

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i cant believe y'all are seeing scum literally go "no no i wanna do this thing that's extremely detrimental to town for memes" and you're all just cool with that

yeah
hell he's going to do in d2 as mafia
or are you saying that because he's deliberately giving himself a free d1 pass thatll be accepted from the majority of the players here
which if so is def plausible but walk me through why that possibility outweighs the other ones

[cowsloveSushirolls]

hey sorry for not being here in a little while and for the lack of content/ constant question asking, was busy today
i think i have enough information to start a re-eval, expect some sort of post in dead hours

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Honestly I'm getting tempted to push for cows just because he's the biggest wagon and it seems like half the player list just wants the day to pass so we can all blow up. Which is kind of a weird part of this setup if you think about it. The fun part is ostensibly the blowy up part, but the blowy up part never happens if scum gets elimmed. So we're kind of incentivized to play against win con. Bizarre.

could you rehash your read of why i'm town again?

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im unsure about the assertations of being a stronger player lategame when you vowed to explode early and are now self-voting now
but can i glean any AI information about that? probably not. you town bro?

[cowsloveSushirolls]

Because this game sucks rocks and I won't have another round of debates. If my lim gets the game to the "knock-outs stage" so be it.

cow sigh
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scum!Strange is playing the role of being very vocal against the whole scum trying to rush D1 but hasn't been proactively doing anything which i find kind of incongruent. i think that pings me because it feels like his adamance against players like pooky who are memeing is theatre either with a scumbuddy or just to look town. if cows goes through i think this play is like some sort of hedge about being scum being spread out among the gamestate or whatever.

i think strange hedge is scummy
185, 236, 270
the newbie where they replaced in as soloscum i saw it a fair bit
i'm lazy so here's the copy-and-paste for ur taskbar

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=87429&user_select[]=35821

#1691 is the hugest offender. #1681 #1616 also wack

i'm looking at an iso of a town game they played with me and there's a lot of early conclusions, personal anecdotes and emotions that are shown, not said (if that's an actual towntell?)
not very much hedge

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=87240&user_select[]=35821

in fact the differences between this town game and the (hypothetical) two scum games is a lot, and are relatively recent (all of these are in a 5 month period)

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think charle is worth doing meta homework on also

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im no longer opposed to pookwagon but i wanna get some of my work done b4 I quickhammer

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the plan is to run everyone up until someone doesnt use ATE or show apathy smile

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when was the last time u've been mislimmed pook

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TRUE

cow

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can i choose the person that gets to explode on me

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can i choose the person that gets to explode on me

this is a scum mindset

town would volunteer to blow up first

sorry im just feel all submissive becasue im guilty of hurting ur feelings on this game

[cowsloveSushirolls]

feel

ing

[cowsloveSushirolls]

why would you want a town player to explode on you rather than exploding yourself on someone else?

why does it have to be a town player
who am i voting

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• the way pooky is playing here is pretty frustrating and my kneejerk reaction to anyone doing a sort of preemptive blaming of everyone-else-but-me is generally going to be "ok " and vote them and ignore postgame (this includes a world where cows is a wolf)
  
• 556 is literally wolfy but also comfortably within the realm of something a towny would say just being catty and not thinking about it
  
• gonna keep hanging out on my vanity wagon for now

if you guys don't actually care for the d1 WC please tell me so i can self vote and enjoy some boom in spec chat

would you be willing to be the first to press boom if we didn't elim you here

would it just be a race to see whoever explodes first bet. me/you/clem/a50
think that sounds like a terrible idea but i'd probably default to yes. log it in the books

i'm still operating under this, yeah
am aware of the thread's perception of me

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why would you want a town player to explode on you rather than exploding yourself on someone else?

why does it have to be a town player
who am i voting

rofl why would a scum player explode on you?

I'm the strongest player here. The most valuable player on this forum. The most knowledgeable player on this forum. The most well-rounded player on this forum. The smartest player on this forum. The most well-rounded, well-read, well-analyzed player on this forum. The best communicator. The best player. The best player. The best player here. The best player in Open 832: Nightless Exploder Pandemonium III.

If you disagree, you're wrong. I'll prove it to you.
Watch as I use the power of authority to force a scum player to explode on me.

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if theres a way that 556 isn't contradictory to that i'm missing it

i thought you already mentioned it

556 is literally wolfy but also comfortably within the realm of something a towny would say just being catty and not thinking about it

assuming catty - not serious and intending to poke at pooky only?

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ok well then you like doubled down on it as though it was a serious comment. i'm not here to tell you what you meant when you said that . . .

im not saying that what i did right now was some very elaborate scheme to slap someone with a sick copypasta and that everyone should've seen it coming but like
558 should've emphasized that my aura(?) isn't serious idk

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VOTE: cows love sushi rolls a lot of these things i've heard from you have been like you're almost explicitly speculating on possible motivations behind your posts from a sort of external perspective

yeah i tend to do that when there's someone who is taking a group of my posts the wrong way
which has like, happened multiple times this game, ur correct about that
why does it make me scum again

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i keep rereading the post and all i can think about is the fact that i've never thought about doing this as mafia in chat
and therefore wouldn't use in forum even with the massively increased deadlines which'd allow me to do whatever

and i feel like in forum i'd much rather do the opposite of what you've said as scum, if i have it understood correctly
i think the average townies (or at the very least, me? i haven't taken notes) reward consistent and clear solving a lot and if they can glean one or two descriptors from a skim of my entire ISO or recent posting then i'd make it those

and that's exactly how i play as town too
you could make a case that the failure to keep up with that sort of thing is scum-leaning as i'm trying to mimic my previous towngames and failing

but this whole game has been sort of a failure for me LOL that likely transcends alignment

if this was too off topic then lmk i think i mightve missed your point

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i keep rereading the post and all i can think about is the fact that i've never thought about doing this as mafia in chat

which is "the post" and what is "doing this" referring to

p#578 and the idea of playing "pinned" vs "unpinned"

[cowsloveSushirolls]

just looked at the most recent finished game of yours i happened on & found the first moment you seemed to be staging a defense of yourself. the second line of yours here seems like its almost exactly what i'm talking about: somebody is shading a certain thing you did in a post and you are simply and declaratively stating your reason for having done it. moreover i think its just like comfortable and townie in a way that i dont feel like you've been in this game

you're right that i've been uncomfortable in this gamestate this entire time
i can't really name someone who wouldn't
it's why i'm not consolidating despite people's wishes for the phase to be done during the weekend
i look at pooky and i'm like "he just like me fr"
terrible way to townhunt because both alignments are going to feel that way but ramble ramble
there's a diff between

This is a bad post though. Self meta doesn't work, because if you know your meta, you can manipulate it. Maybe if it's to refute a specific claim, but unprompted like this? Just reads real fishy. Especially the bit about getting killed for being a dick.

this sort of pressure for an entire game

i was completely unaware pavowski had posted and i suddenly have much better feelings for t3


UNVOTE: t3

VOTE: cow

serious vote, not a single post in this game has pinged me more than cow's entire iso, this post especially is +scum

and this sort of pressure for an entire game
and i mean for an entire game
i'd categorize the NQ wagon and the current pookywagon as those kinda wagons also (despite being jumpstarted by clemency)
like i'm happy that you're right here pushing, actively interacting with me and continuing to justify your vote
better treatment than the rest of this plist

[cowsloveSushirolls]

my vote very likely doesn't end on pavow today but i think there's a lot of people that "out-town" him so he's still in my b6 by poe
if that makes sense

[cowsloveSushirolls]

Spoiler:

This is totally off the topic and indicative of nothing but you've chosen the weirdest shortening of my name I can imagine

I miss palling around with you in the thread like we did in that newbie game, next game I promise to TR you on d1

Spoiler:

same!

[cowsloveSushirolls]

that marks the 4th town on pooky
feeling good

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i can not brainpower today, unsure why
but i unironically think that pookywagon is full of people that deserve to be called town (with the exception of i think t3 but they're not someone who i have looked at in a long time
and disregarding pooky who is not in my wagon schadd doesn't strike me as particularly scummy as their way of treating my slot doesn't feel malicious
which offers me the non-zero chance that pooky's lolcatting because of a scumteam that isn't helping
which is well, really specific and seemingly improbable as it's a 3 person pool but it quite literally can't be anyone else because of Mechanics idk
but also i feel like that's a shortcut i'm taking to stop solving today and bet on the game being scuffed so i will ignore that for a few days if you guys don't mind

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i'm doing stuf

i am stuff

[cowsloveSushirolls]

I mean, one of the vanity voters is voting their scum buddy for distancing, so yeah .. cows looks bad too.

im voting my scumbuddy for BUSSING'S SAKE, sire

i don't like falling for conspiracy if there's alternatives
i know sometimes there's gamestates where you have to take leaps like that but i sincerely think this isn't one
"what if numberq placed 21 and 93 in our heads to explicitly show us that they aren't part of a scumteam" is one that i would bet the game on not being true. to the point where i'd call the read conditional with just that
(which, idk why that statement pings schadd unless that was the only thing i used to read NQ with there was no intention of reading them further which right now is *not* the case)
so like

Spoiler:

i was gonna compare it w pookywagon but i am genuinely terrible at reading emotions. they just sorta blend together in my head
which brings me to

playing frustrated town is i think significantly harder than most people think and i feel that this would be more obvious

why do you feel that this would be more obvious?

[cowsloveSushirolls]

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87720&user_select[]=36165

here's a repped scum game of theirs. i've called back to it i think just once and i've skimmed through the last iteration of NEP and somehow there's large differences between all 3 games
384 was before i read NEP II but i think i'm still holding on to that idea that if charle were to be scum here their play would not deviate THAT much from the large normal
even if it's likely a very small sample size of what they can do as maf

[cowsloveSushirolls]

this is a certified cows godread dw pooky

[cowsloveSushirolls]

cows what did you mean here? Pooky has to be scum mechanically - why?

are you asserting that or is that what you got from that post?
i thought at the time that those were the only reasonable pooky partners

[cowsloveSushirolls]

Pooky why are you okay with voting someone cows is voting for

you just want to kill cows and don’t care how right

pooky answered both of these p sure
anyways....
it is time to feel the consequences of my actions

[cowsloveSushirolls]

COWS WASHED?????????

[cowsloveSushirolls]

help

[cowsloveSushirolls]

mother fuccer
goddamn troll
cow
why is it actually 0/3
im so out of touch

[cowsloveSushirolls]

thus means scum were dancing around all of the like the entire day. with no preference for any im shaking and crying

[cowsloveSushirolls]

yeeeeah ok here's my top 5 (ordered)
numberq [conditional, refer to my other numberq posts]
iv
charlemagne
pooky
clemency
here's my bottom 6 (also ordered)
_schadd
pavowski
a50
SM
T3
enchant?

since it's held i still beliece in this btw
i NEEd to evaluate iv critically and schadd could maybe go up somewhere what else
i wont hace the time to do this until 6 hours though (cool wailing)

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i thought i sent a post here but i think i
went to bed and didnt send it
i'm still town

[cowsloveSushirolls]

yeah here it was

Well! Don't worry much. You got one scum!
I think it's pretty achivement here.

i'm finally here
first it's time to break out the wifom
i don't think enchant says this if their scumpartner was a majority wagon for about half of the game

then i blacked out lol
extremely ballsy but since i'm p sure this is a hit can i ask charle to explode on T3 in f3 or otherwise

[cowsloveSushirolls]

playstyle wise both games that charle played were the exact same

wut this isn't true both iv and i chimed in abt this one
whatchu looking at

[cowsloveSushirolls]

[cowsloveSushirolls]

gg. sorry about the loltunnel :3

u are loved

[cowsloveSushirolls]

mmmm i shouldve seen the explosion coming
first time i've been mislimmed in this site so lots to learn
i'm sorry strange!!