Hey everyone! I have work in an hour but did look at VCs. This one stood out to me. I am town and the entire wagon on me was town + jester. So I need to look at why the wagon dissolved.In post 1424, Kerset wrote:
Has anyone fake voted yet?
Hey everyone! I have work in an hour but did look at VCs. This one stood out to me. I am town and the entire wagon on me was town + jester. So I need to look at why the wagon dissolved.In post 1424, Kerset wrote:
This is interesting for Blood Puppet’s last post.In post 1555, Blood Puppets wrote:I don't thinkM&M/Toogare Mafia.
Not going to pretend to have great reasons for my vote but I do like this flip.
I townread the people on this wagon more than I do anyone else so.
M&M, I don't know if 5 hr is enough to shift atp
~taly
Considering mc ester was right on M&M being joker and they flipped the next day scum probably are on the M&M wagon. So lemme grab that.In post 2654, mc esther wrote:obviously i dont believe we get anything out of eliminating jester!mocha. town!mocha, eh, it's a deadline elimination, it's not ideal but frankly i dont even think rh9 is ideal.In post 2648, MegAzumarill wrote:What do we gain from a potential town or jester M + M lim here?
So Dwlee, myself (town), numberQ, three (town), Enchant (town) , M&M JesterIn post 2830, Kerset wrote:
Three really wanted Voyc. Need to give them a look over laterIn post 2600, Three wrote:VOTE: RH9
Don't think Voyc is happening no matter how many times we beetlejuice them.
It’s fire lol.In post 2883, Enchant wrote:... Anyone can make up reason town fakeclaims IC?
I lied both can be scum.In post 2948, Voyc wrote:this.. hasnt been helpful tbhIn post 2945, numberQ wrote:The replacements actually have me pretty lost in this game though. I think to make a real reads list I'll have to skim a few ISOs. And idk if I can do that tonight, so
Can confirm Galron also went V/LA in a game I was scum with them in but it was for valid reasons. Not sure how that matters as I don’t see Galron in the active player list or replacement list?In post 2950, Looker wrote:Based off tone and relaxed posts (also votes within the game), I feel it's Harley, Voyc and Dwlee (could replace Dwlee with MegaZoom, but I feel more toward Dwlee). Galron went v/la as scum last game, so I'm kind of suspicious of that as well (I know, it's an insult, but I'm being honest). Only person to vote Harley was marcistar, whoreplaced out and thendied. Harley's the only one to votepark Dwlee. Only person to vote Voyc was Andante, who replaced out and then died, despite Dwlee and Harley saying they want Voyc out. Kinda skimming, so let me know what I've missed or am missing.
It’s Firebringer.In post 2978, Dwlee99 wrote:Although why does town firebringer fake ic revealing...?
Why is my scumread of you ridiculous?In post 2977, Dwlee99 wrote:Actually your scumread on me is so ridiculous you're probably town, carry on
I don’t think so and it’s why I think you’re scum.In post 2981, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm on an incompetent streak and spent the whole game tunneled on the jester. That's why I'm not dead
What weird vibes? Elaborate please?In post 2983, MegAzumarill wrote:Math is giving off weird vibes and I honestly don't know what to make of it
What’s weird about them?
Both? It’s more just spitballing what game to mind. I don’t have a team formulation yetIn post 2986, MegAzumarill wrote:In post 2962, MathBlade wrote:Gun to my head initial impression is Dwlee Quinn Meg probably has at least one scum.
Dwlee because not dead yet
Quinn because they like Dwlee’s posts but based on what’s on this page didn’t consider why Dwlee isn’t dead
Meg because tbeir tone doesn’t match the last game I was with them on
If we could fake vote to determine who should vote that would be great.
Is there a reason you are saying these slots are linked or is your scumreads independent
Too many scumreads in the brief skim I had.In post 2990, MegAzumarill wrote:Why do you read voyc as lhf over scum?
@Dwlee I already explained why. It’s because of the jester wagon.In post 2966, MathBlade wrote:So Dwlee, myself (town), numberQ, three (town), Enchant (town) , M&M JesterIn post 2830, Kerset wrote:
So Dwlee and NumberQ look sus as hell.
I don’t doubt the fact you have recently lost games. Everyone has occasional slumps. I just think you’re better than what’s here and you’re good scum. I don’t think you’re making an honest effort to see my point.In post 2993, Dwlee99 wrote:You don't think so? You disagree with the easily verifiable fact I 1.) Have lost town games recently by sucking and 2.) That I tunneled the jester?In post 2982, MathBlade wrote:I don’t think so and it’s why I think you’re scum.I forget what you said. I think looker is town cause it's Alyssa's slot. I'm looking for two more town. I think at some point I looked at different teams and thought voyc would make sense in a lot. I'd fake vote voycWhat do you agree with what I have pointed out so far? What do you disagree with (besides the conclusion you’re scum)?
Who would you fake vote for?
Why sheep the jester over dead town?In post 2994, Dwlee99 wrote:Tempted to sheep Pooky on other two but really we just need one to get to tomorrowIn [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=13208255#p13208255]post 2802[/url], Milk & Mocha wrote:Here's a real "readlist"
do your own work gl!
Milk & Mocha (0): Jester
Alyssa The Lamb (0): Probly Town
Three (0): Town
Voyc (0): Mafia
Enchant (0): Very Town
Firebringer (0): ??? I'm confused about this person but if I missed someone it's my buddy FB
numberQ (0): Town?
Dwlee99 (0): Town
Harley Quinn (0): Mafia
MegAzumarill (0): Probably Mafia? I dunno really
That’s a lot of words to excuse not having an opinion on anything despite having 4 complete days to get one.In post 2996, numberQ wrote:Actually fuck the T/S thing. I looked back and I don't think those thoughts I mentioned in my last post are going to coalesce into anything. Plus I woke up way too early this morning for a meeting with people in a time zone 6 hours ahead of mine so maybe I just need to simmer on it for a bit more. Probably gonna take a nap after work then try and settle into my review of the game tonight.
Maybe this is just how she talks but the emotion at the start of this post feels manufactured to me. I glanced through Voyc's ISO she does seem to be pressing people and following up in a towny sort of way, but just something about this post is weird to me. Plus I looked through her predecessor's ISO too and datsi strikes me as much scummier.In post 2946, Voyc wrote:GOSH MISELIM IS STRESSING
i dont want to make the wrong choice
tbh i dont have time tonight to dedicate to this and giving out a readslist, will hopefully be able to tomorrow
I don't think your theory holds up really well Meg, I couldn't even check in during that phase, it was so short
Anyway that's about all the brain I can muster right now.
@Meg:In post 2044, Dwlee99 wrote:I think I'll live into tomorrow just cause pooky wants to fuck with me
Like it’s even more sus they don’t want to elim NumberQ.In post 2063, numberQ wrote:I don't think we should lim M&M anymore, not yet anyway
Where’s your fake vote at?In post 3013, Harley Quinn wrote:Catching up, I’m once again reacessing my reads. I’m starting to rethink my Fire sr, since Math doesn’t feel scummy to me, which makes me now feel a bit better about Meg and has me once again doubting everything. It’s extremely important we get it right and don’t miselim.
It’s very concerning to me that Math is the only one who has bothered to read my posts. Looker has misrepped my play and Dwlee is not reacessing for some reason. I honestly don’t understand why everyone but me is tr that slot. I just have to hope I’m wrong and everyone else is right on them but I don’t think so.
Then what are you doing to solve the game?In post 3015, Dwlee99 wrote:Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating stillIn post 3012, MathBlade wrote:Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”
Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.
You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend
In post 3015, Dwlee99 wrote:Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating stillIn post 3012, MathBlade wrote:Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”
Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.
You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend
In post 3016, MathBlade wrote:Then what are you doing to solve the game?In post 3015, Dwlee99 wrote:Cause I don't have an amazing case on voyc. I'm evaluating stillIn post 3012, MathBlade wrote:Why are you so focused on defense rather than offense?
If my theory is wrong everyone will laugh and go “ha ha it’s math”
Why not push Voyc or whoever you scumread? If you are town then I’d follow.
You can be town and wrong so yea I'm gonna defend
Damn the contradiction is strong with this enby.In post 3017, Dwlee99 wrote:Absolutely nothing
I am saying that if you want to fake vote outside of Dwlee/Q you need a damn good case because to me it’s at worst a 50/50 and at best we get a scum either way.In post 3030, Harley Quinn wrote:Are you saying my fake vote should be on Dwlee or Q?In post 3025, MathBlade wrote:Whoops I meant @HarleyQuinn on the question I was reading Looker’s posts and said the wrong name
Again you prove my point you’re not reading.In post 3036, Dwlee99 wrote:All scum could certainly be off wagon and I'm thinking mathblade might be scum for forcing this dichotomy
Just realized this isn’t clear.In post 3039, MathBlade wrote:Again you prove my point you’re not reading.In post 3036, Dwlee99 wrote:All scum could certainly be off wagon and I'm thinking mathblade might be scum for forcing this dichotomy
Toog was also on the jester wagon.
If you want to argue I am idiot town and all scum are off wagon then feel free. It’s possible just not probable.
But if you want to argue that I am scum then you need to argue why I suggest this as scum when it narrows the PoE.
Based on responses if Dwlee is scum then Meg or Q are. I don’t see a Dwlee/Meg/Q with that response.
And I would find town more likely to be dejected than scum based on this. So I would argue the more active players > rand have a scum.
There’s the wagon if anyone needs it.In post 2830, Kerset wrote:
Lol Enby doesn’t treat themselves as town lolIn post 3047, Dwlee99 wrote:Could be. Not TMI to suggest something that pooky himself suggested (scum avoiding this wagon like the plague)In post 3042, MathBlade wrote:Just realized this isn’t clear.In post 3039, MathBlade wrote:Again you prove my point you’re not reading.In post 3036, Dwlee99 wrote:All scum could certainly be off wagon and I'm thinking mathblade might be scum for forcing this dichotomy
Toog was also on the jester wagon.
If you want to argue I am idiot town and all scum are off wagon then feel free. It’s possible just not probable.
But if you want to argue that I am scum then you need to argue why I suggest this as scum when it narrows the PoE.
Based on responses if Dwlee is scum then Meg or Q are. I don’t see a Dwlee/Meg/Q with that response.
And I would find town more likely to be dejected than scum based on this. So I would argue the more active players > rand have a scum.
Toog (who I and Fire replaced) was on the jester wagon.
You arguing 0 scum on it is kinda TMI.
I bet probably one scum on that wagon at MOST. So this "there has to be scum on wagon" is just dumb. You claim 50/50 if we kill in there, I don't agree. Looking at the actual wagon, me, you, and number are all on there. If one scum that's one in three if there's 1 scum in the wagon, which is worse than random (50/50 cause we won't lim IC cause they reveal if fake voted)
Correct. It’d be 50/50 to you if you’re town.In post 3050, Dwlee99 wrote:you're talking about limming someone on the wagonIn post 3048, MathBlade wrote:You’re not able to put yourself as town in a hypothetical.
I'm one of them
wtf
Because if you’re town you know you’re not scum. So again from your POV it’s 50/50.In post 3054, Dwlee99 wrote:Why wouldn't I include the possibility of limming me?
Lol nice back trackIn post 3057, Dwlee99 wrote:It's only not 50/50 if I assume I'm unlimmable, which is clearly not the case
In post 3061, Dwlee99 wrote:There are 3 people on the wagon my guy
Right
I think max one of them is scum
That means one in three if people agree that only one of them is scum
If we lim off the wagon and my assumption is right, the odds are 2/4 or 3/4.
Which is higher
Your name is mathblade
I mean you’re literally proving my point. Scum didn’t want me elimmed.In post 3071, Dwlee99 wrote:I changed NM but forgot to change toog. That's your slot with five not scum votes on it. What's that about math?
Lol that’s not how this works.In post 3083, Dwlee99 wrote:You said the exact thing I did
I—
I'm not talking to you anymore. Voyc needs to intent to vote someone, and then we give that person one post to confirm ic or not, and then voyc votes them.
(expired on 2022-01-22 14:17:57)
I didn’t. The point applies to Meg as well.In post 3086, Dwlee99 wrote:Idk if you missed it but meg intented to vote voyc
You want Voyc, Numbers wants Voyc, Meg wants Voyc, iirc one of Harley/Looker wants Voyc if not both.In post 2996, numberQ wrote:Actually fuck the T/S thing. I looked back and I don't think those thoughts I mentioned in my last post are going to coalesce into anything. Plus I woke up way too early this morning for a meeting with people in a time zone 6 hours ahead of mine so maybe I just need to simmer on it for a bit more. Probably gonna take a nap after work then try and settle into my review of the game tonight.
Maybe this is just how she talks but the emotion at the start of this post feels manufactured to me. I glanced through Voyc's ISO she does seem to be pressing people and following up in a towny sort of way, but just something about this post is weird to me. Plus I looked through her predecessor's ISO too and datsi strikes me as much scummier.In post 2946, Voyc wrote:GOSH MISELIM IS STRESSING
i dont want to make the wrong choice
tbh i dont have time tonight to dedicate to this and giving out a readslist, will hopefully be able to tomorrow
I don't think your theory holds up really well Meg, I couldn't even check in during that phase, it was so short
Anyway that's about all the brain I can muster right now.
In post 2950, Looker wrote:Based off tone and relaxed posts (also votes within the game), I feel it's Harley, Voyc and Dwlee (could replace Dwlee with MegaZoom, but I feel more toward Dwlee). Galron went v/la as scum last game, so I'm kind of suspicious of that as well (I know, it's an insult, but I'm being honest). Only person to vote Harley was marcistar, whoreplaced out and thendied. Harley's the only one to votepark Dwlee. Only person to vote Voyc was Andante, who replaced out and then died, despite Dwlee and Harley saying they want Voyc out. Kinda skimming, so let me know what I've missed or am missing.