Open 854 | Eurybia's Curse | Game Over!

[Andante]

Hellloooo friendssss

Maf be scared! Veryyy scared

UNVOTE:

[Andante]

Day 2 Final VC
[7]

Pavowski

: skitter30,

Titus, GuiltyLion, Aristeia

, Meuh,

Isis

, Faker
[2]

The Ugly Fruit:

Pavowski

, marcistar
[2] marcistar:

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] Faker: Coral

Pav was maf
Aristeia, GuiltyLion, Isis, The Ugly Fruit and Titus are confirmed town.

~~~
Gamma = Faker

VOTE COUNT 2.1
[4]

Isis

: Gamma Emerald, skitter30,

Aristeia

, Meuh
[1] Aristeia: Coral
[1] Coral:

Titus

[1] Gamma Emerald:

Pavowski

[5] Not voting: marcistar,

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez,

Isis, GuiltyLion

~~~
VOTE COUNT 2.6
[4]

The Ugly Fruit

: Meuh,

Pavowski

, Gamma Emerald, marcistar
[3]

Pavowski

: skitter30,

Titus, GuiltyLion

[2] marcistar:

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] skitter30:

Isis

[1] Gamma Emerald: Coral
[1] Not voting:

Aristeia

Just looking at VCs alone, I think Faker is gonna be 1 maf

[Andante]

VOTE: Faker

[Andante]

and other maf is gonna be off that final wagon, so it's in marcistar/sircakez/coral and I can't exactly tell off these VCs, but yeah should be Faker(Previously Gamma) for 1

[Andante]

Again, but coral in green!!

Day 2 Final VC
[7]

Pavowski

: skitter30,

Titus, GuiltyLion, Aristeia

, Meuh,

Isis

, Faker
[2]

The Ugly Fruit:

Pavowski

, marcistar
[2] marcistar:

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] Faker:

Coral

Pav was maf
Aristeia, GuiltyLion, Isis, The Ugly Fruit and Titus are confirmed town.

~~~
Gamma = Faker

VOTE COUNT 2.1
[4]

Isis

: Gamma Emerald, skitter30,

Aristeia

, Meuh
[1]

Aristeia: Coral

[1]

Coral

:

Titus

[1] Gamma Emerald:

Pavowski

[5] Not voting: marcistar,

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez,

Isis, GuiltyLion

~~~

VOTE COUNT 2.4
[5]

Pavowski

: Meuh, skitter30,

Aristeia, Titus, GuiltyLion

[3] marcistar:

Isis, The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] Gamma Emerald: Gamma Emerald
[3] Not voting: marcistar,

Coral

,

Pavowski

~~~
VOTE COUNT 2.6
[4]

The Ugly Fruit

: Meuh,

Pavowski

, Gamma Emerald, marcistar
[3]

Pavowski

: skitter30,

Titus, GuiltyLion

[2] marcistar:

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] skitter30:

Isis

[1] Gamma Emerald:

Coral

[1] Not voting:

Aristeia

Just looking at VCs alone, I think Faker is gonna be 1 maf

Ok, so I think Faker still red, and I'm not sure on marci/cakez

but if I pull up some more VCs, like here's day 1
the worst = coral
gamma = Faker

VC Day 1 Final
[7]

Beat

:

Titus

, Meuh,

GuiltyLion

, marcistar, Gamma Emerald,

Aristeia, Isis

[3]

Aristeia

: skitter30,

Beat, the worst

[1]

Titus

: SirCakez
[1] skitter30:

The Ugly Fruit

[1] Not voting:

Pavowski

I think that's Cakez maf?

a RVS wagon, cause why not

VC 1.1
[3]

Beat: the worst

, skitter30, SirCakez
[3]

the worst: Titus, GuiltyLion, Isis

[2]

GuiltyLion

:

Pavowski

, Meuh
[1] marcistar: marcistar
[1] Gamma Emerald:

Beat

[3] Not voting:

Aristeia, The Ugly Fruit

, Gamma Emerald

I know it's RVS, but meuh and Pav, both as maf wouldn't go to the same person right out of the gate? Cakez and gamma/Faker is my best guess...

[Andante]

Omg Andante and in a confirmed town slot to boot! exciting!!! Welcome

Hello fellow conftown!!! these people as conftown are pretty strong lol not gonna lie... hahaha @scum sorry to ruin your day by joining the party

[Andante]

(ignore the commentary inside my quotes, changing name colors was hard enough)

Sure thing skitter!!!

I'll just keep quoting the same thing/adding VCs or whatever, so now, coral is no longer green, and we look at if Meuh is green vs if Meuh is red!

Spoiler: Meuh Green VCs

Day 2 Final VC
[7]

Pavowski

: skitter30,

Titus, GuiltyLion, Aristeia

,

Meuh, Isis

, Faker
[2]

The Ugly Fruit:

Pavowski

, marcistar
[2] marcistar:

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] Faker: Coral

Pav was maf
Aristeia, GuiltyLion, Isis, The Ugly Fruit and Titus are confirmed town.

~~~
Gamma = Faker

VOTE COUNT 2.1
[4]

Isis

: Gamma Emerald, skitter30,

Aristeia

,

Meuh

[1]

Aristeia

: Coral
[1] Coral:

Titus

[1] Gamma Emerald:

Pavowski

[5] Not voting: marcistar,

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez,

Isis, GuiltyLion

~~~

VOTE COUNT 2.4
[5]

Pavowski

:

Meuh

, skitter30,

Aristeia, Titus, GuiltyLion

[3] marcistar:

Isis, The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] Gamma Emerald: Gamma Emerald
[3] Not voting: marcistar, Coral,

Pavowski

~~~
VOTE COUNT 2.6
[4]

The Ugly Fruit

:

Meuh

,

Pavowski

, Gamma Emerald, marcistar
[3]

Pavowski

: skitter30,

Titus, GuiltyLion

[2] marcistar:

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] skitter30:

Isis

[1] Gamma Emerald: Coral
[1] Not voting:

Aristeia

Just looking at VCs alone, I think Faker is gonna be 1 maf

Ok, so I think Faker still red, and I'm not sure on marci/cakez

but if I pull up some more VCs, like here's day 1
the worst = coral
gamma = Faker

VC Day 1 Final
[7]

Beat

:

Titus

,

Meuh

,

GuiltyLion

, marcistar, Gamma Emerald,

Aristeia, Isis

[3]

Aristeia

: skitter30,

Beat,

the worst
[1]

Titus

: SirCakez
[1] skitter30:

The Ugly Fruit

[1] Not voting:

Pavowski

I think that's Cakez maf?

a RVS wagon, cause why not

VC 1.1
[3]

Beat

: the worst, skitter30, SirCakez
[3] the worst:

Titus, GuiltyLion, Isis

[2]

GuiltyLion

:

Pavowski

,

Meuh

[1] marcistar: marcistar
[1] Gamma Emerald:

Beat

[3] Not voting:

Aristeia, The Ugly Fruit

, Gamma Emerald

I know it's RVS, but meuh and Pav, both as maf wouldn't go to the same person right out of the gate? Cakez and gamma/Faker is my best guess...

VOTE COUNT 1.9
[3] Gamma Emerald: SirCakez, marcistar,

Aristeia

[2] SirCakez:

GuiltyLion

, Gamma Emerald
[2]

Beat: Titus, Meuh

[2]

Aristeia

: skitter30,

Beat

[1]

Meuh

: the worst
[1] skitter30:

The Ugly Fruit

[2] Not voting:

Pavowski

,

Isis

Ok so, thoughts on the Meuh!Town VCs: I want to say with 2.6, scum were on the ugly fruit wagon, cause they did not want Pav going over so FOR SURE at least one of Gamma/marci is maf, the Day 2 final looks like Faker moved to bussing for the towncred, so Faker still maf, and I don't think pav and marci, as maf, end day together as the only 2 on a wagon? so probably just cakez for other maf? Also 1.1 is kinda interesting.. hinting at theworst/coral as maf?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`


Now we make Meuh confirmed maf!!

Spoiler: Meuh RedVCs

Day 2 Final VC
[7]

Pavowski

: skitter30,

Titus, GuiltyLion, Aristeia

,

Meuh

,

Isis

, Faker
[2]

The Ugly Fruit:

Pavowski

, marcistar
[2] marcistar:

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] Faker: Coral

Pav was maf
Aristeia, GuiltyLion, Isis, The Ugly Fruit and Titus are confirmed town.

~~~
Gamma = Faker

VOTE COUNT 2.1
[4]

Isis

: Gamma Emerald, skitter30,

Aristeia

,

Meuh

[1]

Aristeia

: Coral
[1] Coral:

Titus

[1] Gamma Emerald:

Pavowski

[5] Not voting: marcistar,

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez,

Isis, GuiltyLion

~~~

VOTE COUNT 2.4
[5]

Pavowski

:

Meuh

, skitter30,

Aristeia, Titus, GuiltyLion

[3] marcistar:

Isis, The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] Gamma Emerald: Gamma Emerald
[3] Not voting: marcistar, Coral,

Pavowski

~~~
VOTE COUNT 2.6
[4]

The Ugly Fruit

:

Meuh

,

Pavowski

, Gamma Emerald, marcistar
[3]

Pavowski

: skitter30,

Titus, GuiltyLion

[2] marcistar:

The Ugly Fruit

, SirCakez
[1] skitter30:

Isis

[1] Gamma Emerald: Coral
[1] Not voting:

Aristeia

Just looking at VCs alone, I think Faker is gonna be 1 maf

Ok, so I think Faker still red, and I'm not sure on marci/cakez

but if I pull up some more VCs, like here's day 1
the worst = coral
gamma = Faker

VC Day 1 Final
[7]

Beat

:

Titus

,

Meuh

,

GuiltyLion

, marcistar, Gamma Emerald,

Aristeia, Isis

[3]

Aristeia

: skitter30,

Beat

, the worst
[1]

Titus

: SirCakez
[1] skitter30:

The Ugly Fruit

[1] Not voting:

Pavowski

I think that's Cakez maf?

a RVS wagon, cause why not

VC 1.1
[3]

Beat

: the worst, skitter30, SirCakez
[3] the worst:

Titus, GuiltyLion, Isis

[2]

GuiltyLion

:

Pavowski

,

Meuh

[1] marcistar: marcistar
[1] Gamma Emerald:

Beat

[3] Not voting:

Aristeia, The Ugly Fruit

, Gamma Emerald

I know it's RVS, but meuh and Pav, both as maf wouldn't go to the same person right out of the gate? Cakez and gamma/Faker is my best guess...

I have no clue how to interpret these meuh maf VCs, it could be like anyone if meuh is maf... ahhh this one hurts my brain lol have fun with this VC if you want... 0/10 recommend using the red VC

[Andante]

I don't think we'll get too much from Pav tbh, like pav's vote was on no one a whole day... like, it almost has me thinking it's just skitter who voted for the towncred... I haven't read why skitter was voting or any of that, but just a thought after seeing VCs, cause the only reason a maf wouldn't even vote... they know they're going down.. don't wanna give anything away, so yeah, initially I was like, of skitter was first there!! but like, ehhh probably need to read into that...

[Andante]

skitter... is it you? it should be Faker regardless of anything else, but yeah..

[Andante]

I, again, could have just *not* started a pav wagon and then *not* hop off despite having ample oppurtunity to do so

it's ok... for now, I'm more set on Faker, but there's only like 4 options for 2 maf??

[Andante]

uhh I think I read it, but then there was all this unrelated talk and yeah.. what about Faker? that's like the 1 person I'm like super set on

[Andante]

is Meuh french?

I mean i guess i'd vote her if it was between faker and me, but i'm not convinced she's scum, and i didnt find your vc compelling

If anything, i think vca points to meuh

hahahaha umm I never do VCA so uhh that was my first attempt ._.

[Andante]

Here's what I'm thinking rn. Marci doesn't read like scum. Personally the TW/Ari interactions don't look particularly town indicative but considering the rest of her gameplay is like, fine, and several people are pretty confident on it I'm willing to just accept that. Then from there, Skitter and Faker have just not been acting in a way that seems partnered imo. Maybe I'm just blind to it.
If that's all correct, Cakez is just scum.

TLDR: If Marci and Coral are town, we get {Skitter, Faker, Cakez}. Skitter and Faker aren't paired, so Cakez would be scum either way.

VOTE: SirCakez

and marci/cakez don't read as paired to me! that's like the 1 thing I really got from my VC stuff...

[Andante]

Welcome Faker, I SR your slot sorry

hmmm

[Andante]

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say the majority of these 4 THOUSAND posts... are not game related... and probably just sheep the conf towns on what we wanna do

[Andante]

Andante do you think im scum

nope! you're one of my top TRs!!

yeah I love ydra's flavor!! trying to skim an ISO... like yeah no

[Andante]

I wanted to give faker more time to catch up and skitter is on vacation

are you town pavo?

I hate this question every time it gets asked

My answer won't help my case and it's the only answer I can give

Anyway, yes

Faker I see you were looking for a little more from me ... sorry it's not going to happen tonight, I'm spent and was just checking to see Ari's decision. I don't see how anything I can say changes things at this point with two of you ready to hammer me

If I'm still alive in the morning I can maybe effort a little

so this has me thinking it wouldn't be Faker and Pav. but then that would mean skitter bussed?? ok actually just looking into that real quick. cause anyone else I'd automatically go "Faker town" but here? this could be pav distancing? so then.. I think cakez is just maf here, and other is.... that's a good one

[Andante]

ok wait, why are ALL the early pav voters the conf town... except skitter?

Ahhhh ok lets try it
VOTE: pavowski

i will sheep you wherever you want to go

VOTE: pavo

We know how well that turns out lol >.>

i think we try our best and if we lose it's not a big deal let's not stress about it

Idk if those are my top scumreads, i said before that i scumread like 2/3 of the game so a lot of things are a big muddle

So i'm trying to look at things from different angles to see if they make more sense that way

I dont have a cohesive explanation for everything that's going on

Ahhhh ok lets try it
VOTE: pavowski

VOTE: pavo

Consider my vote here too.

@ Ydra I think me/skitter are voting for Pavo not Gamma

VOTE: Pav

I've read up but I am too tired atm to really brain correctly and play mafia

It's weird that there's a universal (edit: meuh liked it didn't she) consensus that Marci's reaction to her wagon was poor yet several vote switches away from her?(and a nonvote on skitter's part)

I didn't have a strong read on her reaction to the wagon personally, and Pavowski is a strong elim fmpov but it feels like I have sand in my tights

this is a mood

I might vote Pav tomorrow after sleeping on it but no promises

[Andante]

and like skitter's whole attitue about the wagon is just kinda like "meh who cares" I don't really see like conviction. it's just "votes!" but then, Ari, Titus, GL are all... conf town

[Andante]

and like skitter's whole attitue about the wagon is just kinda like "meh who cares" I don't really see like conviction. it's just "votes!" but then, Ari, Titus, GL are all... conf town

isn't that just how skitter plays?

she likes to vote people and see what happens?

I rarely see her vote someone and start pounding the table with conviction.

ok, but then why did all of the next people saying "I'd vote pav" become conf towns? like, why not include skitter with those?

[Andante]

ok actually just looking into that real quick. cause anyone else I'd automatically go "Faker town" but here? this could be pav distancing?

I can't tell if "anyone else" is referring to me or referring to Pav, no offense to Pav but I think he'd agree his scumgame atm is still weak. I don't even think you've seen mine, lmao

lol ok shhh like, "anyone else" is like, name I don't recognize.. like, Pav? definitely could be distancing? but like, LOL how you're like "you haven't seen scum!me" has me thinking you're definitely town, it's not distancing.

What do you think of skitter being scum here?

Cause like, ALL of the first people to vote Pav are the ones who became conf town... but not skitter...

[Andante]

ah you're thinking worst/coral....

I was thinking it's skitter and cakez

[Andante]

VOTE: skitter

[Andante]

and like skitter's whole attitue about the wagon is just kinda like "meh who cares" I don't really see like conviction. it's just "votes!" but then, Ari, Titus, GL are all... conf town

isn't that just how skitter plays?

she likes to vote people and see what happens?

I rarely see her vote someone and start pounding the table with conviction.

ok, but then why did all of the next people saying "I'd vote pav" become conf towns? like, why not include skitter with those?

Well if skitter is mafia because mafia can't become conftown.

and if skitter is town because the mafia decided that she is elimmable.

Ok, but none of yall seem to be thinking about skitter being maf? and for that matter, most of yall seem to be doing almost nothing game related...

[Andante]

I'm pretty sure skitter is town from her interactions with Aristeia, I can't remember the page range off the top of my head but my guess would be in the 40s.

I think leaving her uncleared is fine for scum, there is virtually always doubt on account of who she is. I have 1/2 concerns to revisit but right now I would not vote her and am vaguely frustrated that Isis is shoving her.

hmm ok, so if she's town, Pav went over with 0 maf on that wagon? like, I know it's not beneficial AT ALL for maf to lim one of themselves early.. hmm maybe just voting off wagon would work..

[Andante]

Cakez is my runner-up vote but I still have plenty to work back over, and there is a good chance I just outright have to deal with the entire table refusing to vote a blatantly scum player and find a partner that is magically less obvious but more palatable.

I got you! I believe in you being town! so worst/coral is your number 1 pick here?

[Andante]

No offense but I spent about ~8 hours reading skitter's ISO and her real-time interactions with multiple players, in addition to my own interactions with her.

Isis has probably put in similar if not more. Aristeia has put in similar if not more.

Check yourself on the idea that no one else is trying or thinking about reading her.

ok ok!!! everyone was spamming about whatever video game.. my bad!! I'm trying here!!

[Andante]

actually how about this
VOTE: the ugly fruit
hasn't done much but what he has done, I'm not a big fan of

VOTE: TUF actually this one speaks to my soul a little

Taking advantage of the "easy lim" like, you can't tell me my slot wasn't gonna be an easy push for scum, like, we saw the opportunity, and were like "yeah!" oh wait, yeah, like, to go from SRing gamma, to jumping on this wagon WITH gamma is like, you don't do that... usually if you SR someone you don't trust who their voting, and here Gamma just goes "TUF has done nothing" and worst just follows...
(LMAOOO I DIDN'T SEE YOU QUOTED THE EXACT SAME VOTES)

yo wait... people just ignored all this after Faker said it, this whole thing is really good

What is meuh even doing here
ignores the first like "hey the worst is maf here!!"

3474 meuh does this "if coral town/if coral maf" thing.. but the reasonings aren't really balanced... "if town: stamp of approval" "if scum: (reasoning you haven't ruled out)"
(it sounds like meuh believes coral maf in 3474... but then
3475: I don't wanna vote cakez
3479: coral is town


ok and reading the rest of what Faker pointed me to, I literally agree with all of it.. like, the worst/coral is DEFINITELY maf here, like, yeah... I wanna see the towncase reasons, cause what I'm seeing here isn't towny

[Andante]

I mean, meuh was reading as maf with that weird "shift" with Coral from 3474 to 3479

[Andante]

VOTE: Coral

[Andante]

Honestly, what I'm seeing from The Worst is just, I can't TR it. there's a point the worst said GL/Titus/Beet would be a 3/3, sure that was rvs, but like, really, what are the odds a "random" 3/3 has all town? - that is not that strong of a point, just one of like 50 things

[Andante]

LOL you should be fine for the next hour!!! uhh I think you have this very solid case, like, I didn't really see much with immediate reactions to it, maybe it was in the following pages.. but I was looking to just see someone comment on it... nothing.. wow.. that makes me sad, like all that effort to be ignored... ahhh but no, I'll at least die on this hill with you. I'd love a TheWorst/Coral lim here. like yeah.

HIT ME WITH THE CORAL TOWNCASES!!! LEGOOOOO, but I wanna yeet Coral.

I know I'm new here... Not trying to step on anyone's toes... but uhh yeah hi! Lets please lim Coral!!

[Andante]

You can swap to powertunneling me and calling Coral obvtown somewhere in the future, maybe even cast a losing vote against me over her on the final day instead, but I will always have these 15 minutes to cling to. Nothing can take them away from me.

LMAOO I genuinely have you as lock town right now, sooo yeah, I'll fight for your life and I'll fight to lim Coral! I'm glad you already think I'm gonna tunnel you! We're off to a great start on this "teamwork" thing.

Teamwork = Your work that I agree with!

[Andante]

Cakez, why is it Faker?

[Andante]

Time to backstab Faker!!!

uhh I mean... no! lol

but for real I like actually agree with Faker here though on the worst/coral. Like, what part of 3677 is ridiculous? I could just say "this wall post from X was terrible" but like, what part of it don't you like?

cause faker said "I legitimately think this is Pavowski feeling bad about a partner being townread for that rage-replaceout."
like pav said "not just because the Duck is my dude, but because the moment you start trying to figure out people's emotional reactions to things it quickly becomes a minefield "

I know when I'm maf and I like get super mad at someone, I'll instantly start feeling bad, and that's where I'll say more "I'd probably do that as maf" as like, a way to NOT be TRed off emotions, and it genuinely feels like that's what Pav's doing in that post, and I don't think Faker made some ridiculous stretch there..

[Andante]

lol I haven't been here long but I love this game

[Andante]

if yall are deadset on coral town, I'd be ok with meuh first

[Andante]

I thought you were TRing coral?

[Andante]

coral maf?

[Andante]

I'm not flipping skitter today

[Andante]

so... coral maf?

[Andante]

I really should give this game more effort/attention....

[Andante]

I see Faker changing her reads up on me.... I was good with a Coral/Meuh team.. I got convinced it wouldn't be skitter by someone, like, if skitter was picking the clears, she'd know like "hey I just picked all the people initially voting Pav with me" like, yeah... not so sure that's something scum!skitter would do. I tr Faker, and well that only leave like 3 people?

[Andante]

but i absolutely put no stock in the read

LOL alright

[Andante]

VOTE: Meuh
sure, this is with the caveat I've done very little reading...

[Andante]

lol alright, see the plan was to just find TRs and become a sheep, at least for now, good news is, after this week, I am done done with research and should have time to like figure out if my TRs are actually town, that should be a solid start

[Andante]

I could... technically do that tomorrow... hmmm but something tells me I never SR Faker or skitter here...

[Andante]

Like I wasn't

not

trying in Lake Melancholia, it was actually one of my better games in execution and I got destroyed by that Aristeia claim w/ followups by her/Dwlee and an unfortunate claim from Enchant

but as far as skitter goes I was just tap dancing and doing yo-yo tricks and she got rekt, not at all surprised she puts 0 stock in reading me here

lol I mean, at the very least this tells me yall aren't scum partners... so I'm at least 50% right on my TRs. this shall be easy - famous last words

[Andante]

Like gun-to-head i think ur town
But i absolutely would not rely on that to solve the rest of the game, in elo, etc

the key is... solving the game before we reach that point!

[Andante]

VOTE: Coral

[Andante]

VOTE: coral
I'm not exactly confident on this but imo your approach to me is absolute ass

so amazing, your slot insta voted for it? lol

[Andante]

VOTE: coral
I'm not exactly confident on this but imo your approach to me is absolute ass

How on earth is this your response to 2242 lmao

Like I think 2242 is a really good post that resonates and this is all you have to say in response???

I didn't read 2242, I did read 2244

hmm, interesting

[Andante]

(who are we talking about being maf?)

[Andante]

you HAVE 6 recent scum games? this got w i l d

[Andante]

ok well, I click 1, it was a hydra, click another, you repped out.. ok. I was like wow.. 6.. that's wild... the rep out one I was like "1 of these is your alt?? wtf??"

which one would you say is your best scum game?

[Andante]

hmmm now that I have this meta... I.... don't know how to use it, gut tells me you're town, and that seems fine enough for me... cause what I'm reading feels like a similar vibe to that pyp you were town, so unless someone wants to scum case skitter. skitter!maf isn't something I'll be thinking about

[Andante]

Umm.. now I'm scared, I looked at 1 and went "hmm scum game looks good" but like, I still like the point about why would you make everyone else that voted pav with you a conf town.. like, scum!you would be aware of that... idk, I feel good enough calling you town for now, if it becomes a problem later I can relook at it, but Faker *might* not be town, and if this is her scum game? it's scary good... cause stuff I was looking at with gamma wasn't amazing

[Andante]

oh yikes.. we have 2 days and 12 hours to find a mafia

[Andante]

GL/Titus/Gamma

Here you go

I like your vibes Meuh but this is weird and I'm curious how serious it is

I feel pretty much neut about Titus and Gamma.
GL's intro feels a bit weird honestly? Just a bit off and I want to poke there.

Dunno how you could feel otherwise given they have exactly 1 RVS post apiece

There was something before this, marci is absolutly not partnered. it definitely could be meuh

[Andante]

VOTE: Meuh good call tbh, fast and loose is a much better play than slow and steady

Of the Meuh votes I like this one the least

(See? I don't have to make jokes, I could have said this one is the worst)

but it's not going to be meuh and worst/coral... I don't think

[Andante]

however... I'd expect marci to have been picked as a town clear... at least off this day 1 stuff

[Andante]

Pav was cautious with Gamma getting to e-2... Faker maf?

[Andante]

Gamma/Cakez/Skitter based on pav reactions? Faker(Gamma) and skitter are not partners, so cakez is just 1?

[Andante]

like, pav isn't acknowledging skitter or cakez... at all.. there was like 1 comment about geting high or whatever to cakez.. that's all (so far..)

[Andante]

Feels genuinely lost d1 and is making some contrary reads on d2 when it would be easier to lay low

Also if Skit were scum I'd think there would be a little more sauce in the defense of certain slots (ie me)

there's first mention of skitter, but probably not partnered? and this fits..

so then scum is just... exactly faker and cakez

[Andante]

I don't think there's a chance in hell Marci and TUF are scum together, and .... man I still don't think Marci's play here is particularly towny but I'm having a hard time continuing to scumread her here

is UglyFruit the slot that you think is most likely to be scum?

I still like a Gamma vote but that's beaten to death at this point and it's obviously not coming today

Upon re-reading a little I like Titus less and less, possible I'm taking it personally but she's had it in for me basically the whole game and has never given a whole lot of reason why

Not like I'm under the delusion I'm gonna start a new wagon people will suddenly follow me on at this point

but POSSIBLY not gamma.. and if it's not marci/skitter.. then meuh? meuh and cakez?

[Andante]

VOTE: Cakez
ok yeah, I think this is always maf here. and about 60% sure meuh is the other?

[Andante]

at the end of the day, I'll just go wherever clears wanna go I guess, cause... yeah

[Andante]

I do... I realized that after I repped in lol, I was prepared to just get this slot TRed... turns out it's a clear... with power...

I think Cakez is best bet for scum based off pav's interactions with people, then Meuh, and Gamma/Faker

That's all I got from reading Pav's ISO

[Andante]

I don't see my reads really changing from that, but I definitely could be wrong

[Andante]

Just cause like, there's no interactions, Pav barely acknowledges Cakez exists, and like, we have 5 clears or whatever now, Pav spends majority of focus talking to people who are now conf town

[Andante]

I could be wrong, but just from my experience, scum don't tend to just interact with each other

[Andante]

what's chainsawing?

[Andante]

I promise after I townflip skitter

sounds like a great plan...

[Andante]

uhhh clears, what are we doing for a lim here?

[Andante]

and if I want a scumflip here?

[Andante]

If the other clears want to flip skitter, I guess I could join, I just don't SR skitter, but I'm not some expert at reading her

[Andante]

YO WAIT... GL... you're agreeing with me on my Cakez stuff? hahahaha that's awesome!! I was barely here... but yeah reading Pav's ISO, it's like, nothing with Cakez? yeah.. idk I'm not 100% convinced, cause all I've done was look at VCs and read pav's ISO

[Andante]

hahahaha if cakez is town I'm gonna feel so bad though

[Andante]

I guess I could just be wrong on Cakez being the preferred miselim of scum

question on this, I really haven't seen anyone pushing cakez, so how would cakez be the preferred mislim of scum? unless I'm scum?

[Andante]

DRUNK CAKEZ IS HERE

and he's gone....

[Andante]

mb we need to put meuh closer to elim to make sure its real and not just distancing

sure, meuh's another SR I have, if people wanna go there, I won't complain
VOTE: Meuh

[Andante]

**also I have 0 clue the VC right now

[Andante]

lol I was assuming it's not early afternoon for him

[Andante]

@Cakez

Are you ok?

[Andante]

VOTE: Cakez

You sure about that?

[Andante]

I mean, if skitter is scum, I'll probably be playing for scum... sooo

[Andante]

VOTE: meuh

[Andante]

The uncleared slots in general pushing somewhere is probably almost as likely to discourage the townblock from voting there as it is to convince them that it's a good wagon.

why would the unclears pushing their SR tell us it's a bad wagon? if you're taking a stance, it's generally a towny thing to do

VOTE: Coral

[Andante]

if Cakez is town he should be like a freebie miselim for scum here right, and they would likely intend for that possibility by not clearing him

why is he so much harder to wagon than Meuh or Coral

I guess they could have decided that there's sufficient suspicion there from within the townblock that they don't have to lead the elim, just follow the momentum when it's already there?

The uncleared slots in general pushing somewhere is probably almost as likely to discourage the townblock from voting there as it is to convince them that it's a good wagon.

like.. from what I've seen, these clears aren't doing a whole lot (sorry friends) and like, I know I haven't put maximum effort in, all you'd have to do as scum is be like "hey here's a thought" and if it's good, we most likely just sheep, and if it flips town, we just shrug and reevaluate tomorrow...

Cause honestly, not taking a stance is by far the scummiest thing town could do here. like, as an unclear town, you'd know you're town, so you should be either trying to prove you're town and/or suggesting a direction to go that isn't you... not all this "We should sheep the clears"

[Andante]

Going to have to drag me kicking and screaming to that W if she's scum

Am I convinced she is innately town? Not really. But are you going to have to pry me off my Coral/skitter guess with an actual crowbar? Yes.

And what will my reaction be postgame if she flips red? Head held high, L in one hand, W in another, both held up to the camera with a smile

I don't see myself getting off coral!maf here without some serious convincing

[Andante]

hahahahahahha cakez called me a potato!!! I'm glad we didn't lim him

[Andante]

There's 6 uncleared slots and 2 scum in them. If someone in the townblock has just 1 or 2 strong townreads, then a vote from the remaining group is almost as likely to be coming from scum as it is from town, from their perspective.

the last person who talked numbers to me was mafia... next!

[Andante]

What if the useless players did something???

who you calling useless....

[Andante]

What if the useless players did something???

...king the call is coming from INSIDE the house

AHHHHH I took a sip of my drink, and legit spit it out reading this... lmaooo that's great

[Andante]

What if the useless players did something???

who you calling useless....

Not u
Like Marci and fruit basically LMAO

... fam. my name is fruit

[Andante]

there is actually no way cakez is mafia here lmaoo

[Andante]

What if the useless players did something???

who you calling useless....

Not u
Like Marci and fruit basically LMAO

Andante is fruit lmao

???

your reaction isn't "SCUM would know no fruit" ?? like, scum specifically made fruit a clear... scum is WELL aware their "useless clear" (sorry fruit, luv ya!!) just became me...

[Andante]

Coral has scum claimed yet again

[Andante]

cakez is literally crying out the danger of the scum controlling the game without realizing it's the two he's fuckin voting with LMAO

he also called fruit useless... so like...
@Cakez, where did you think I came from? lol "Hey yall we're adding a player!!!"

[Andante]

to be fair, that 1st post wasn't updated... but like, I feel like that's something scum should be pretty aware of... along with the non useless players... who are actually playing the game...

[Andante]

4412.. was absolutely PERFECT lol that's honestly like the best thing I've read in a while

[Andante]

meuh, who do you think is scum here? now that cakez just "became clear" like, why are you no longer wanting to vote him and such

[Andante]

I intend to move back to Coral but I'm not letting Meuh outsource all the scum heavylifting to me fuck no

Well, I wanna know if meuh just flat out claimed scum.. cause we literally were all "cakez is 'clear' now sooo" and meuh is just "I don't want to go over, so NOW I vote Coral..."

[Andante]

What if the useless players did something???

who you calling useless....

Not u
Like Marci and fruit basically LMAO

oh hmm is this a legit derp tell

scum would surely not forget that Andante=fruit right??

cakez did say he was drunk...

[Andante]

I HAVE A STRICT NO LUIGI POLICY

I WILL WAGE A ZEALOUS WAR AGAINST THE TOWN WIN CONDITION WITH MY DELUSIONS AND FANTASIES IF YOU PROVIDE FUEL FOR THE FIRE

BUT I WILL NOT BE LEFT TO MY OWN DEVICES TO TURBO TOSS, HELL NO

no luigi? we hate luigi?

[Andante]

I still strongly want skitter. I want to kill someone for attacking meuh. I want to kill the best faker partner because I'm still paranoid about faker. I want to kill someone I cased with wacky shit on page 6 without piquing Pav's interest. I want I want I want.

If meuh escapes you'll have all my votes it will be playing to wincon for me to stop having opinions

there is NO way it's skitter and faker...

[Andante]

coral claimed maf here... I never see myself not voting coral...

[Andante]

This town is hopeless
I'm not taking any blame for this one
Sometimes it's my fault but NOT THIS TIME

not your fault? but I TR you, because of you!!! you did that!! so if it's a wrong TR... town is gonna lose cause of your actions...

[Andante]

what if we lim marci instead of meuh cuz marci is literally meuhs only possible partner

meuh and coral were my partner reads earlier??

[Andante]

I think cakez is town

Sooooo many bad takes

I feel like cakez is openwolfing now...

[Andante]

EVERY TIME I OPEN THIS THREAD IT FEELS LIKE IM EATING EGGS
AND I HATE EGGS

HOW IS THIS EVEN A THING??

** Opens link on website
** Thinks "IM EATING EGGS"

like.. what? maybe I need to get drunk tonight to understand the thought process here

[Andante]

this game is such a fuckin clown fiesta

I love it!! This is freaking amazing!

[Andante]

Cakez making me open up photoshop....

[Andante]

Cakez making me open up photoshop....

update: I hate what I made.. sooo forget I said anything... hahahaha

[Andante]

post it you coward

it's so bad though... the initial idea was so much better in my head lol hahahahhaha ahh I am coward

[Andante]

it would if the alternative is yeeting marci

or we yeet coral? who has basically claimed scum here

[Andante]

Spoiler: top secret

For the purpose of how bad this is... let's just say I am drunk




not my finest piece of art, but hey, it started with a great idea!!!

[Andante]

Thank god I can count on Andante to be even more confident in Coral-scum than I am lmfao

I am CONFIDENT!!! not sure what that means for this situation.. but Coral is never endgaming as long as I'm alive, sooooo

[Andante]

Kill coral and skitter escape is cry

but coral will flip red, then we can talk about skitter maf?

[Andante]

we could also get marcistar to VOTE but she is AFK AS FUCK

I FOUND MARCI!!!!

[Andante]

MARCI IS ALIVE

[Andante]

MARCI AGREES ON CORAL. LET'S GOOOOOO

[Andante]

Marci, coral is maf. I'm 99.93% sure

[Andante]

that was a good vote

[Andante]

part of me wants to say Faker is the partner, but Coral is definitely maf. sooo yeah also I always lim Coral first

[Andante]

do i not understand the mechanics???

what mechanics? we vote out maf?

[Andante]

never underestimate the power of drunk cakes Coral

didn't he disapear though?

[Andante]

Hey Cakez!!! Fruit just called you mafia!!!

[Andante]

is cakez actually drunk

where is he i think itll be funny IGRJWFDHS

just look at the last ~ 10 posts of his iso

[Andante]

pedit don't scum just lose if one of them get flipped today?

oh what? lol if that's the mechanic??

[Andante]

if yall are seriously going to hammer test with meuh... why? you put meuh on e-1 I'm hammering it. I want a coral lim here. there's no world coral flips town

[Andante]

you cant always rely on everyone to be good lil minions

well if it's a hammer test, scum is aware of it by this point... defeating the entire purpose??

[Andante]

or we just flip Coral...

[Andante]

cause I COULD see a coral/Faker world. so like, ideally we're not going "oh it's exactly coral/skitter, so we can waste a lim and lose nothing"

[Andante]

I'm good with Coral

[Andante]

who is good at faking being reasonable.

wait, what? how does one "fake being reasonable"???

[Andante]

I townread her d3 play. but it's possible that read is wrong.

if you TR her.. why is your first instinct to go "but I might be wrong!!!"

like, it FEELS like you're trying to be like "uhhh I know my actions don't point there, but... yeah!!! mislim skitter!!!"

[Andante]

Well cause of this, in addition to my TR, I will directly oppose a skitter lim

[Andante]

i don't really understand the question.

you said skitter was good at "faking being reasonable" and I was asking what that meant, cause in my definition of being reasonable... it's not really something you can fake...

[Andante]

i felt like I had a back and forth argument with skitter where I was in the right and she was in the wrong, and after a few rounds back and forth she basically stepped back and realized that i was right. i found that towny of her to do.

so instead of a town realizing they were wrong, she's maf faking that? what about maf backing down from conflict after realizing wrong? I don't get this "faking being reasonable" thing

[Andante]

I townread her d3 play. but it's possible that read is wrong.

if you TR her.. why is your first instinct to go "but I might be wrong!!!"

like, it FEELS like you're trying to be like "uhhh I know my actions don't point there, but... yeah!!! mislim skitter!!!"

my first instinct is to continue to push for meuh. my final instinct is to accept that my current reads are not infallible. i know you haven't been here very long, but skitter has been my top scumread for most of the game, and on d2 i was even kind of viewing the game through a lens of what would make sense alongside skitter being scum.

Ok, so your instinct is to solely push for meuh? you do realize, meuh is going to have a partner right? you just said you had a TR on skitter for parts of the game? so even though she was a TR, the reasons to TR aren't stronger than reasons to SR?

[Andante]

Ahhhhhhhh i read that post and changed my mind, i'm leaning towards not-scum now

I'm going back and forth on this one a bit >.>

And i think if i'm actually being honest i might be subconsciously lumping u in with meuh because i'm annoyed i'm getting scumread, which isnt right or helpful

I need to take a step back and think abt this some more

so you read this... and went "the tone = town" like, you just threw this GIANT wall at skitter. not curious about what parts made skitter change her mind, cause you're saying "I TRed this, but now I think the tone was faked"

I read that and go, definitely could be maf realizing their "easy push isn't so easy"

I'm just struggling on your progression with skitter here, it's not making sense

[Andante]

Like, I don't think Coral throws a wall at a scum partner like that. but I'm struggling to believe Coral is town, also that post in isolation is a terrible look for skitter, but I'm ignoring that right now... I don't understand what coral is doing in regards to skitter, like none of it is making sense

[Andante]

WOOOO GG!!!!
Ydra that was a fun game!!!

[Andante]

the real answer Isis wants.... was skitter maf?

[Andante]

FAKER WE DID IT!!! *you did it!!

hahahahaha ever since you first sold me "Coral maf" that's all I really said in the game lol I was like "hmmm random talk? yall... coral is maf!!"