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Going to catch up after work. Anything in particular people would love my opinion on let me know.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Can you point me to the claims please?In post 654, DeasVail wrote:
I was wondering if the claims had affected anything for you!In post 630, Bellaphant wrote:@dv, I've made my reads, I feel like I'm just bored by this sk/mafia thing. Ask me questions?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Work issue came up but I plan on building possible viable setups from what I know to be true then seeing if the potential claims are valid and going from there.
Won’t be until late tonight though.
Also hopefully can figure out what scum could have.
Any other things I should look at?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Happy scum day before I forget.In post 656, DeasVail wrote:
Page 22 has the important stuff imoIn post 655, MathBlade wrote:
Can you point me to the claims please?In post 654, DeasVail wrote:
I was wondering if the claims had affected anything for you!In post 630, Bellaphant wrote:@dv, I've made my reads, I feel like I'm just bored by this sk/mafia thing. Ask me questions?
Thanks Enchant
Work stuff should be done in an hour or so. Maybe two then will start number crunching.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Just got home setting up.In post 661, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:heres game summary:
i am vt
mathblade doctor
enchant bodyguard for sure
deasvail probly bodyguard? should never endgame
frog/bella one of them is strongman sk the other is vt
cakez/mala mafia team
Why do you say Enchant is for sure bodyguard?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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A scum was elimmed D1.In post 663, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:cuz enchants scum play is not v good
That is not good for scum no?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I will do that after explicit facts.In post 660, Frogsterking wrote:
VCA. That's something I relied on Titus for in the TFT game. I feel like it's also where I'm most likely to have missed something in this game.In post 657, MathBlade wrote:Any other things I should look at?
I have some setup stuff to look up from OP and flipsScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I will get to that when I read.In post 665, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In post 325, Enchant wrote:Alright, i really do think it's SK game and i don't really care cuz role sucks, so i claim.
I am Bodyguard. I protected Frogster N1.
It makes 2 PRs. If we in SK game (which prob is), then there's 2 futures:
1. There's no other PRs. Therefore there's no point in my role and i want to die anyway, so fuck it.
2. There's other PRs (+2 or +4 in fact). These either Investigatives (then good luck to them), or these are protectives/Action manipulations (Unlikely). While it could be M, i doubt so as well can assume there are not.
Btw if you DID roll Doctor, heal me obvs. If you rolled another BG, don't bodyguard me, because i asked, you can't get shot instead of BG getting shot and why would you die instead of me anyway. If you jailkeeper, idk go jail anyone, don't jail me though (again what point).
My role borderline useless, but if they target me, they won't target someone else instead, so my goal as bg kinda complete.
Finally, Unjester wincon.
this is v town and lanmolde probly spew him not scum on d1
I just have a hard time buying doc and two BGs it seems weird but I need to read the OP so sorting claims is priority.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Cool so I am running the numbers from known facts:
Absolute set in stone
Vengeful requires one roll between 76-85
I require a role between 66-75
Claims given
Two additional bodyguards
Leaves 3 rolls left.
This leaves mafia goon, joat (dead), god father or tailor, and an SK.
So if there is an SK we are missing two killsScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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May I ask why we are assuming there is an SK? Is there something in the game that indicates this?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If there’s a reason why let me know that I am a dum dum and just tell me why please.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Ahh I missed DV being something that claims blocked. Will need to plug that in and seeIn post 531, Enchant wrote:Malakittens
Gamma Emerald
Frogsterking - Vanilla Townie
PookyTheMagicalBear - Vanilla Townie
SirCakez - Vanilla Townie
Bellaphant
DeasVail - Claims role which blocked N1
Enchant - Bodyguard
Bella, Malakittens, Gamma please claim now.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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@DV can you clarify please?In post 507, DeasVail wrote:I’ll start with this: Im pretty sure I was roleblocked n1 and it wasn’t scum
It’s pretty important to me.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Oh derp I forgot vengeful on MS is only on elims so we do have evidence of an SK lmaoScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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MariaR - Vengeful
2. Enchant - Bodyguard
3. CSF - Vanilla Townie
4. Town PR - Doctor
5. Town PR - DV
6. Vanilla Townie
7. Vanilla Townie
8. Vanilla Townie
9. Vanilla Townie
10. Mafia Goon
11. Godfather/Mafia Tailor
12. Mafia JOAT - Lammolde
13. Serial Killer
That’s where I think we have to be. It’s the only way that explains everything.
So unless anyone else wants to claim PR (enchant, DV, and myself) would be locktown based on mechanics.
If we assume one of us lying then two of us have to be lying and boom there is group scum.
I highly doubt that so I am just going to townblock us three.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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We also know that DV claiming blocked by someone doesn’t fit with the available PR roles for scum or town.
This makes me wonder how this would be happening.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Taking a break here but will be back in a bitScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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We know that scum and/or SK killed
MariaR and CSF N1
Roden N2 + likely Frogsterking N2
I say likely because DV’s PR may change things.
If it doesn’t then scum double shot Roden or Frog
Roden was poking at SirCakez a lot end of D2
Frogster leans towards a Pooky or Cakez kill.
The d1 kills
MariaR - viewtopic.php?p=13510163#p13510163 leans toward Bella or Cakez or null kill
BBT - Pooky or Cakez
I really want to see Pooky or Cakez flip today I think barring DV clarifying his role.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Consider me spiritually on Cakez but I want more conversation.In post 650, Datisi wrote:vote count 3.03
with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 01:30:00).
Not going to post anymore until someone else does.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I did consider SKIn post 681, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:did u read none of what i posted about a strongman sk
Did you not read my posts?
There’s no blocker town or scum aligned for DV’s claim.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If DV is town there’s no blocking PR in the gameIn post 685, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if dv is town then the sk must be a strongman
if dv is not town then dv is not endgaming because dv should never survive tonight
If DV is scum then DV’s plan is ???
Neither makes senseScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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DV is claiming he knows he was blocked. How?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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The only way I can make it work is (redacted because I want to see if DV claims it and Y happens as a result)ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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There’s actually a third option that DV is still town and not bodyguard.
It’s possible he is just that and I am just paranoid.
I would just want to make sure everyone is locked into a claim before I go in depth.
I’d especially like to know why DV thought he was blocked by town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I’d really like it if he speaks up. Thanks.In post 692, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:cuz there is literally no such thing as a scum blocker role and his protection target died at nightScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don't quite think that's the case either. I'd just like it if DV came and responded and we made sure that there's no other PRs
And happy birthday MalaScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If there are no other PRs since we mass claimed what’s the issue?
If DV is telling the truth the only way we have an SK is if all you me DV are town
If DV is a different PR then (redacted intentionally)
If DV is telling the truth then DV protects me, I protect you, you protect DV. Doesn’t matter if strongman I don’t think as whoever would die would be healed. I just have to ask the dm. Then both scum groups have to kill in the PoE which might be instant win.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Oh wait…if DV is telling the truth then BG never procced
Oh well we have to get SK then we can circle jerk.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Awesome okay since you’re sticking with that claim you me and Enchant have to be lock town based on the setup unless you and Enchant are scum which will make themselves fairly evident.In post 700, DeasVail wrote:Sorry Math, I did not take into account the possibility of SK being strongman when I originally claimed so thought I had either been blocked or there was a bus driver. Strongman SK is the clear answer to the fact that MariaR died.
Frogster is a bad vote because he was my N2 heal target and no second death. I doubt both teams shoot same player so Frogster joins the locktown listScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 650, Datisi wrote:vote count 3.03
with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 01:30:00).
Malakittens
MathBlade — Doctor. Locktown unless you have one and exactly one of Enchant/DV as scum also. I know this is impossible.
Frogsterking - N2 heal target and missing kill. Could be SK that mafia tried to shoot but I am going with no and Frog is locktown.
PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez
Bellaphant
DeasVail - Locktown by claim
Enchant - Locktown by claim
If only one of you lying no SK exists which means no double kill N1 which means another killing role exists which has had ample time to claim so yay four lock not mafia/likely town. Sorry to be insistent.
So SK/mafia list is in
Mala
Pooky
SirCakez
Bella
Looking at reads of who has died none really sussed Mala. So if Mala is scum she’d be with one of Pooky or Cakez.
Pooky is voting mechanical town which he’d know better
So it’s likely Pooky is scum of some kind
Given he said he’d ignore anything I said given the 3 way saves, he’s probably mafia.
So it’s a matter of who with.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Imho Pooky is absolutely shaking hands with Cakez and knows he’s SK here.In post 426, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
this just sounds like you're mad about being caught for the wrong reasons or w/eIn post 422, SirCakez wrote:pooky is playing like a shitter but honestly I don't know what to do with him because I feel like most of my desire to SR him just comes from him being really obnoxious towards me every time we play together
also like if i'm mafia and you're town, why would I be obnoxious? the whole point of being scum is to vote out townies. I'd just be playing to my win con. you kinda tmiing that I'm town here
Pooky from start knew lam was bad being buddies.
My guess is probably with Bella but that’s the shakiest.
If I am wrong then Pooky + Cakez scum team.
Cakez should probably be the flip here.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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TLDR
So SK/mafia list is in
Mala
Pooky
SirCakez
Bella
That’s your voting pool.
Don’t vote outside it. Ever.
If we flip SK today then
Me on Enchant, Enchant on DV, DV on me.
In theory that stops all death unless doc/BG got nerfed.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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That’s impossible.In post 711, DeasVail wrote:Math, I think there is a quite reasonable chance that Frogster is SK
Assume what you’re saying is true and Frog is SK
Then where is Frog’s kill?
If you say Roden where is mafia’s kill?
It’s much simpler that Frog is town and Gamma (now me) healed him.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Pooky is focused on survival.In post 712, DeasVail wrote:Pooky even as mafia has every reason to be SK-hunting rn
If he accepts the PoE he’s done
Because even if we are wrong in that pool of four and flip the only town
Then mafia and SK all know each other and it’s a matter of attrition.
Mafia lose that every timeScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Mafia wouldn’t shoot SK though. They need the kills after losing their big PR role. Mafia would have to have believed Frog town. I just don’t see Frog SK. None of the dead players suspected Frog.In post 715, DeasVail wrote:
Gamma could have healed Frogster-SK.In post 713, MathBlade wrote:
That’s impossible.In post 711, DeasVail wrote:Math, I think there is a quite reasonable chance that Frogster is SK
Assume what you’re saying is true and Frog is SK
Then where is Frog’s kill?
If you say Roden where is mafia’s kill?
It’s much simpler that Frog is town and Gamma (now me) healed him.
In regards to mafia’s kill, Frogster’s alignment is not that relevant.
Mafia very likely tried to kill Frogster, but that doesn’t mean Frogster is not SKScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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This is exactly why I think you don’t vote Cakez.In post 720, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In post 712, DeasVail wrote:Pooky even as mafia has every reason to be SK-hunting rn
lol what
if im mafia i wouldnt sk hunt
if mafia lims the sk here the looped protectives become unkillable and the game is over
the only way the mafia can win is if the sk shoots the doctor for them
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I think you are because every dead player so far has sussed you and or Cakez.
The odds of you both being town is slim combined with you don’t vote each other.
VOTE: Cakez
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Sweet and if I am wrong y’all are gonna be without me anyway
Please I doc Enchant, enchant BG dv, dv bg me if I am right.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Works for me. But I think we have SK on the block.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Not SK and I did heal enchant which means we are missing mafia killIn post 751, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:mathblade if you claim sk i am willing to take you off the table since eliminating the sk is losing for town rn
Or SK and mafia double shot enchant.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I agree and am surprised I am alive btwScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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We are at three X three
Two group scum, 1 SK.
If we hit SK we lose, mafia kills 2v2
If we hit town then mafia and SK kill. SK doesn’t hit mafia we lose.
I am thinking we have to elim Pooky here or Bella. Whoever has the greatest chance of group scum and I think that is Pooky.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Bella or Mala I am wish washy on. Pooky like imho has to be group scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Pooky + Bella = scum team I think.
Then Mala or Frog SK.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am listening. I just disagree and think you’re scum.In post 761, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its amazing how everyone refuses to listen to me
If SK claims they do but it’s plain as day we can’t elim them so we can’t force them out.
SK’s only shot at winning is elimming mafia today then shooting the other mafia tonight.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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And fuck no limmingIn post 763, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if we don't flush out the SK we might as well no lim
No elimming = two deaths = we loseScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I didn’t make you. You chose to. I was wrong on SirCakez. This is true.In post 767, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
you disagreed with me yesterday and made me vote for sircakez roflIn post 765, MathBlade wrote:
I am listening. I just disagree and think you’re scum.In post 761, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its amazing how everyone refuses to listen to me
If SK claims they do but it’s plain as day we can’t elim them so we can’t force them out.
SK’s only shot at winning is elimming mafia today then shooting the other mafia tonight.
And yes we need cross kills to win and so does SK and the only group that doesn’t is mafia which is you.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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IncorrectIn post 769, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
sk has no incentive to shoot in the pool of people who are likely mafia because they are likely to get eliminated and SK wants those people to be alive so the SK does not get eliminatedIn post 765, MathBlade wrote:SK’s only shot at winning is elimming mafia today then shooting the other mafia tonight.
the SK is going to shoot in the pool of people being protected
If SK shoots town and mafia shoots town then SK is endgamed
SK has to shoot mafiaScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Only one dies. I already asked.In post 770, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:@Mod if 2 bodyguards protect the same person and that person gets shot at night, what happens?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Hence why I was really hoping we hit the SK yesterdayScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I think they already know the SK by PoE.
At worst about 33% odds randomly so I am assuming they’re just going to do their job and we elim mafia rather than SK?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If mafia shoots the SK they have a chance to winIn post 779, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we elim a mafia today
we go to night at 1 mafia 1 sk 3 town
1 mafia 1 SK and the mafia just decides to shoot the SK why?
doesnt the mafia lose if the SK shoots a town and then its 1 mafia vs 2 town
If mafia shoots a town they draw or loseScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Going to be AFK tomorrow probably. So if I am slow posting that’s why. I am trying a potentially recharging ability called hanging out with friends IRL.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Elim pool for SK is Pooky Bella Mala and technically Frogger.
DV do you think Mala is the SK? I’d like to hear an argument and vibe with you.
Everyone who do you think is mafia and why and who is SK and why?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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…DV is literally mechanically confirmed town for the past two days.In post 795, Bellaphant wrote:I think the not town is in pooky, dv and mala.. less likely dv, honestly. I'm not finding it easy to engage with sk v mafia at all, sorry.
So Bella is scum. Matter of if SK or group scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I think your premise is false. They have incentive to cross shoot. If they don’t cross shoot and 2 v 1 v 1 then they will have to eliminate the other to win.
If they eliminate the VT then they cross shoot leaving town guaranteed victor.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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It’s better than the other option mafia has.In post 808, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok look at it from the POV of the SK.
they know the BG+Doctor are protecting each other.
they know the mafia cant kill BG or Doctor.
so if they shoot the mafia, they open tommorrow at SK vs 2 conftown
which is auto loss
hence the SK will not shoot the mafia
look at it from the point of view of the mafia:
they don't even know who the SK is.
but lets say they do know who the SK is.
if they shoot the SK, they open tommorrow as what ? conftown+VT vs Mafia? is that winning for the mafia?
Say we elim SK today.
Then we have me and DV who autoprotect each other.
Mafia shoots at not conf town and they die.
So we have one VT and two conf town v 2 mafia.
That becomes win or lose tomorrow which gives at best 33% odds.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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And that doesn’t account for if DV or myself go rogue and try to save a kill either.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Mafia absolutely need the kill of BG or Doctor or they’re screwed. If they lose any mafia at all and SK doesn’t kill in me/DV then they’re fucked so mafia has to sell the no cross kill argument
But if SK doesn’t cross kill they loseScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If we elim VT then SK kills BG or Doc
Mafia can’t shoot BG or Doc as it’s a waste so they either kill SK or kill VT
So then SK just loses as 2 mafia v 1 town and 1 SKScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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