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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:03 am

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Hey guys
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Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:05 am

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Norwee isn't here to defend, so voting them goes against my natural sense of justice
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Post Post #29 (isolation #2) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:14 am

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Detective Penguin looks strangely like Ronin
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Post Post #71 (isolation #3) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:58 am

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Hi Gimli

I get the sense this game will be full of chaos
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Post Post #78 (isolation #4) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:01 pm

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In post 73, Gimli wrote:
In post 71, furtiveglance wrote: Hi Gimli

I get the sense this game will be full of chaos
hello

why is that?
playerlist full of memers
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Post Post #188 (isolation #5) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:09 pm

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Has anyone mentioned Shia Labeouf yet
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Post Post #212 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:01 pm

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VOTE: Cephrir
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Post Post #226 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:30 am

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I'm town this time Dragon
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Post Post #230 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:28 am

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In post 227, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 226, furtiveglance wrote: I'm town this time Dragon
Oh good.
So who's scum?
I'll let you know when I've found some.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:39 am

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In post 231, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 230, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 227, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 226, furtiveglance wrote: I'm town this time Dragon
Oh good.
So who's scum?
I'll let you know when I've found some.
You haven't found any in 10 pages? I find ot hard to believe.
How many are you on then
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Post Post #235 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:47 am

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In post 233, DragonEater70 wrote: Okay fine. Let's say you haven't found any scum.
What's you reaction to the Penguin wagon, Furtive?

Same question goes to Ceph who hasn't contributed at all yet.
It's a wagon
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Post Post #237 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:02 am

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Well, I'm not sure about the wagon. All 3 votes appear to be unexplained
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Post Post #244 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:22 am

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In post 238, DragonEater70 wrote: Okay, I like this a little better.
My explanation for the wagon is that I think Penguin's reaction to Gimli's entrance was scummy, and unlike Fire and Kawaii who also had scummy reactions IMO, Penguin doesn't have any redeeming qualities.
This is itself not a very big reason for a vote and honestly you and Ceph are probably scummier, but I'd rather get some more reactions to the wagon before I move my vote away.

I think Kawaii and Norwee have the same reasoning but you should probbly ask them directly cause I can't read minds.
Do you townread anyone?
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Post Post #255 (isolation #13) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:53 am

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I have 1 read so far
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Post Post #257 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:04 am

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In post 256, DragonEater70 wrote: Furtive, is it Ceph?
No
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Post Post #274 (isolation #15) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:31 am

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VOTE: Detective Penguin

I have an idea.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:52 am

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VOTE: Death Stare

VOTE: SaveTheDragons
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Post Post #364 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:16 am

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In post 361, DragonEater70 wrote: Having another look at it, Sail hasn't posted at all and I'm really unsure what the perspectives of both Flea and Bianco are. IDK if that makes them scummier or not, but I'd at least want to get Cephrir to E-2 for info before chasing another wagon. I definitely didn't get anything townie from Ceph.

Pedit: or we could go for Furtive. I guess they are actually quite deserving of a wagon ATM.

Before I change my vote, @Furtive please explain these two posts:
In post 274, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: Detective Penguin

I have an idea.
In post 336, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: Death Stare

VOTE: SaveTheDragons
Another Pedit: I actually didn't forget Bianco as you can see.
I thought Ceph might be chainsawing for Penguin with the early wagons but then Penguin unvoting at E-1 was a bit towny
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Post Post #403 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:33 am

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In post 383, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 364, furtiveglance wrote: I thought Ceph might be chainsawing for Penguin with the early wagons but then Penguin unvoting at E-1 was a bit towny
What made you think that? I can barely see any attack that Ceph made, much less an attack aimed at Penguin's attackers.
Vote on Norwee
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Post Post #424 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:46 am

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In post 413, Detective Penguin wrote: chainsawing is a term scum!furtive likes to use. iirc...incorrectly.
one time...
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Post Post #431 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:49 am

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In post 430, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 424, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 413, Detective Penguin wrote: chainsawing is a term scum!furtive likes to use. iirc...incorrectly.
one time...
Haunted Village and Datisi's Cafe
Regardless. Competing wagons, Ceph voted Norwee over you.
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Post Post #433 (isolation #21) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:50 am

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Ok. Forget chainsawing, Ceph voted your CW, whatever the term for that is.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #22) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:57 am

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In post 436, Firebringer wrote: He just gave an explanation why he didn't vote penguin, what did u think of that?
He said it wasn't serious, which begs the question as to why he voted in the first place.
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Post Post #444 (isolation #23) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:16 am

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In post 439, Cephrir wrote: I feel like you just wanted to take issue with something this thought process doesn't feel super real
It wasn't super serious that's why
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Post Post #446 (isolation #24) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:18 am

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In post 445, Firebringer wrote: furtive u seem super reserved
Nothing exciting has happened
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Post Post #449 (isolation #25) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:21 am

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In post 448, Save The Dragons wrote: why did u vote me
set a new trend idk
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Post Post #450 (isolation #26) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:22 am

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In post 447, Firebringer wrote:
In post 446, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 445, Firebringer wrote: furtive u seem super reserved
Nothing exciting has happened
i don't think thats a reason to be passive for u
sorry to disappoint
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Post Post #453 (isolation #27) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:26 am

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In post 452, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 450, furtiveglance wrote: sorry to disappoint
another scum!furtive phrase
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Post Post #455 (isolation #28) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:29 am

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I'm not scum. If you give me something to talk about then I'll give it a go
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Post Post #475 (isolation #29) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:56 am

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In post 465, Gimli wrote:
In post 463, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 455, furtiveglance wrote: I'm not scum. If you give me something to talk about then I'll give it a go
Can you make your famous first ten pages analysis?
yeah I want that too
Spoiler: Page 1
bianco's joke feels a bit forced. Firebringer tunnelling Norwee out the gate might be +town because scum would feel bad about doing that.

Spoiler: Page 2
This is entirely fluff.

Spoiler: Page 3
Gimli's entrance is slightly +town. I'm also thinking Kawaii is town based on my expectations of new players.

Spoiler: Page 4
TvT vibes from Gimli and FB.

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bianco question is slightly +scum.

Spoiler: Page 6
Norwee's entrance is +town, Flea's is +scum.

Spoiler: Page 7
Norwee is very town, not for the SK nightkill thing but I do buy that as genuine. Flea could be a lazy pocket.

Spoiler: Page 8
I don't think is +town, the opposite actually. I've found that Mafia are often self-deprecating in this way.

Spoiler: Page 9
DragonEater70 entrance is +town, Cephrir null.

Spoiler: Page 10
STD comes in, nothing to read into really so null.

VOTE: Flea The Magician
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Post Post #479 (isolation #30) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:58 am

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Hi Sail
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Post Post #505 (isolation #31) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:48 pm

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In post 499, Firebringer wrote: i think everyone should claim a hypo vigi shot by end of day btw
And a hypothetical Dietician target.
And Mafia kill.
And Cereal kill.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #32) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:50 pm

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In post 506, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Furtive do seem a bit less in your face but it's early game and from my experience they don't really activate until later so i'm not too bothered.
I'll activate on D3
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Post Post #530 (isolation #33) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:13 am

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In post 526, biancospino wrote: I wasn't able to be active, sorry. I'll try to catch up later today.
In the meantime, can anyone please give me a tl;dr?
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Post Post #532 (isolation #34) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:44 am

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Bad vote on Norwee^
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Post Post #547 (isolation #35) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:30 am

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In post 544, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 532, furtiveglance wrote: Bad vote on Norwee^
Why was it a bad vote?
Because I TR Norwee
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Post Post #552 (isolation #36) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:55 am

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In post 550, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 547, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 544, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 532, furtiveglance wrote: Bad vote on Norwee^
Why was it a bad vote?
Because I TR Norwee
Wonderful...why?
Didn't know whether SK had a kill

(and I'm mafia so Norwee isn't)

But yeah a pretty easy read
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Post Post #553 (isolation #37) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:55 am

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In post 551, biancospino wrote: @std, fair enough. I do agree it was something of a jarring shift in conversation, but still
if
the intent was malicious than surely they should've a reason to reroute the gamestate is all I'm saying
In post 547, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 544, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 532, furtiveglance wrote: Bad vote on Norwee^
Why was it a bad vote?
Because I TR Norwee
Leaving why the read aside. Whether or not Norwee is town has no bearing on the whereabout of Fire's sandwitch.

That particular vote was not serious and Flea said so faerself, so even if you somehow knew for certain that Norwee was town you are also making the argument that random joke votes to town are more likely than random to come from scum
It was Flea's only real bit of game-advancing content in faer entrance and I didn't like it
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Post Post #564 (isolation #38) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:17 am

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In post 562, Gimli wrote: bianco still posting off the cuff means he is just town this game
completely disagree
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Post Post #572 (isolation #39) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:29 am

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In post 570, Gimli wrote: so POE

(furtive, std, ceph, norwee)

is that a good solve friends
max 1 in here, 2 in your locktowns
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Post Post #574 (isolation #40) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:31 am

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bianco and Flea

I will make you see Gimli
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Post Post #577 (isolation #41) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:37 am

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In post 576, Gimli wrote:
In post 574, furtiveglance wrote: bianco and Flea

I will make you see Gimli
you didn't play against scum bianco, he was in your team. remember that long convoluted reasoning things? I don't see him doing any of that here, it feels more like in thread solving etc.

I could be wrong ofc I was townreading bianco when he was doing the long convoluted thing too
It's not about style, it's about tone and motivation
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Post Post #586 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:25 am

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Gimli obvious town
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Post Post #587 (isolation #43) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:27 am

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I think I have a winning POE already which is unusually early for me

[Bianco, Cephrir, Flea, Penguin, STD]

STD most likely to be town from those
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Post Post #740 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:01 pm

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VOTE: bianco
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Post Post #744 (isolation #45) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:47 am

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Sail get your wag on
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Post Post #757 (isolation #46) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:07 am

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Penguin, read on Flea?
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Post Post #759 (isolation #47) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:13 am

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Worth remebering that associatives aren't as useful as usual because only 2/3 of scum know each other
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Post Post #763 (isolation #48) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:18 am

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I think you can scumread SK for some things
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Post Post #768 (isolation #49) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:55 am

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In post 766, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 757, furtiveglance wrote: Penguin, read on Flea?
i have no idea how to read flea...so solidly null, would shoot.
Would you say you usually vote on any going wagon, or are you more selective?
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Post Post #812 (isolation #50) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:01 pm

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In post 811, Cephrir wrote: i reread bianco and im not especially townreading her but i also have no idea why we're doing this haha
I like this vote haha
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Post Post #814 (isolation #51) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:03 pm

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I hope so too haha

me too thanks

me too thanks
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Post Post #822 (isolation #52) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:30 pm

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In post 819, Gimli wrote: I think it's too early for E-1

I think flea is substantially scummier than bianco. what do you think, furtive?
I have three scumreads - Bianco, Flea and Penguin.

You know how Penguin likes to do his wagonomics votes on every wagon?

He's avoided Flea's wagon, and called faer null when I asked him recently.
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Post Post #826 (isolation #53) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:49 pm

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Gimli, what do you think about Penguin?

VOTE: Detective Penguin
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Post Post #829 (isolation #54) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:53 pm

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bianco, you're now at E-4.
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Post Post #840 (isolation #55) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:27 am

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In post 832, Gimli wrote:
In post 826, furtiveglance wrote: Gimli, what do you think about Penguin?

VOTE: Detective Penguin
I'm with cephrir

he seems *a little different* like ceph said

is it scummy? I didn't think it was scummy. it strikes me more as a 'penguin intensifies' sort of business. why do you think he is scummy?
His approach to DragonEater70 has been strange since he claimed to have similar reads

No vote on Flea but voted on every other big wagon, despite calling faer 'null'

That's it
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Post Post #842 (isolation #56) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:02 am

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I'm seeing this game that a vote uncast can say a lot, or at least make me think it's meaningful.
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Post Post #845 (isolation #57) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:15 am

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In post 844, biancospino wrote:
In post 830, Gimli wrote: I don't want bianco to claim

I think there's enough similarity between this and bianco's town game in 2019 to let him breathe for at least a gameday

can't say the same about flea
See, here's the thing, I don't like the Flea situation. I'm not seeing anything in faer ISO that decisively pings me, and in fact in my mind that slot is nullish-town atm, but I can accept just having bad reads. However what I'm finding opinable is that the Flea's sr seems to be just cutting butter.
Are you on about Norwee? What's cutting butter?
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Post Post #846 (isolation #58) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:15 am

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In post 843, Gimli wrote:
In post 842, furtiveglance wrote: I'm seeing this game that a vote uncast can say a lot, or at least make me think it's meaningful.
we can flip flea and find out if it's meaningful or not
We can do potentially
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Post Post #848 (isolation #59) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:19 am

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In post 847, biancospino wrote:
In post 842, furtiveglance wrote: I'm seeing this game that a vote uncast can say a lot, or at least make me think it's meaningful.
Ok, I must have missed it, which unvote are you referring to here?
Not unvotes. Votes that were never cast, but could have been. Words unspoken.
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Post Post #915 (isolation #60) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:06 pm

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I don't like Penguin still, but if people are unvoting then I'll shift my vote

VOTE: Flea the Magician
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #61) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:41 pm

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VOTE: bianco

Not much time but this is a good vote.
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #62) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:39 am

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I'll be happy with a hammer soon, feeling good about this
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #63) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:10 am

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Man don't dance

I clearly had a scumread on bianco at all times.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #64) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:03 am

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Flea/Penguin then we move
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #65) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:15 am

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In post 1069, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 1067, furtiveglance wrote: Flea/Penguin then we move
Keep acting like a dense idiot who refuses to read reality.
Your town meta isn't this prickly...
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #66) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:00 am

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Yoooo
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #67) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:01 am

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VOTE: Flea The Magician
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #68) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:02 am

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In post 1088, Gimli wrote:
In post 1087, furtiveglance wrote: Yoooo
I almost ate you for that EOD btw
I don't taste good
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #69) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:04 am

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In post 1004, Sail wrote: Flea's recent posting has been solidly NAI in the context of Flea's meta.
Grr
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #70) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:04 am

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In post 1092, Cephrir wrote: Do we think rb claims here or nah
I think yah
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #71) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:07 am

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I didn't realise that Roleblocker can just RB the same player again. However, there are 2 scumkills so eh
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #72) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:38 am

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VOTE: Firebringer

I got carried hard this game
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Post Post #1119 (isolation #73) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:55 am

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In post 1118, Gimli wrote: I'm eating furtive tonight cause I think he'd kill the peng
Gimli please

Don't make me beg

Eat DragonEater and you'll be top of the food chain
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Post Post #1154 (isolation #74) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:10 am

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Gimli I'm eating you
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #75) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:20 am

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Ceph can you RB Gimli for me. I want to eat him without him eating me
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #76) » Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:42 pm

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I killed Gimli, no rugrats
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #77) » Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:46 pm

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Wow you guys should thank me

Gimli was actually Mafia, and Sail was the Vig

LMFAO
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #78) » Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:46 pm

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What a game
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #79) » Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:38 pm

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Penguin was outting me quite painfully on D1
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #80) » Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:53 pm

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In post 1210, Firebringer wrote: gg,
town killed it with the night game
dayplay meh. Decent not spectacular, a few like glimli stood out.
We were trying to kill glimli cause i thought he was powertowning too hard and thought cereal killer might take him out which i was worried about.

cephrir and std on my ass tho! much love guys well done

Norwee is a nerd btw <3
In that setup we sort of rely on Town misplaying, especially the Vig. And we need to eat PR early.

We live in Spain
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #81) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:31 am

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In post 1216, Save The Dragons wrote: thanks for modding! this was fun if cut a bit short lol
The roleblock was very clutch for town
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #82) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:36 am

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That too lol!

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