I've played with Lowell twice before. Once he was scum and once he was town. I've played with don_johnson once before, and in that same game I nightkilled TDC right after replacing in, so technically I guess I haven't played with himWdjat wrote:Could everyone talk about previous experience with other players? I don't know any of you.
So I take it you think it's the latter?SerRose wrote:vote semioldguy
you can either be genuinely looking for a good game with plenty of interactions
or
just picking on easy target
Do you have any desire to change that?SerRose wrote:haha yes i concede i'm not being useful/posting much here.
Right now the only thing I find scummy about SerRose is his OMGUS vote. Actually I'm surprised no one else has brought it up.TDC wrote:Could everyone on the SerRose wagon (and Lowell) tell me where they see him on a 1-10 scale from "anti-town" to "scummy"?
Yes, but he doesn't seem to be a complete newbie.TDC wrote:Just checking: You guys are all aware that his total post count and his post count in this game are identical, right?
Any perticular reason you're directing power roles, DJ?don_johnson wrote:i don't really see any reason to lynch serrose at this point. probably more suited to be a night target for one of our power roles.
Well, mainly the fact that he signed up for an open in his first game and understood the queue system. Also reading his posts I just had the feeling he had played before. One way to find out.semioldguy wrote:@Dry-Fit
What about SerRose to you indicates that he is not a complete newbie. I disagree with your assertion and think that it is most likely for SerRose to be a complete newbie.
What do you mean "null tell players?"don_johnson wrote:i was more alluding to the fact that it is not in town's best interest to lynch a player who is ultimately null tell. null tell players are better targeted with night actions.
Care to elaborate on this now?semioldguy wrote:Wdjat is currently the next best lynch after SerRose in my opinion.
That's what I thought. Just because you aren't able to read him, why does that make you think the rest of us can't?don_johnson wrote:dry-fit: null tell means you can't read a player. they appear as neither scum nor town.
Okay...don_johnson wrote:i need to iso your posts, but you are rubbing me the wrong way. you seem to be attributing comments to me that i never made. i don't think i said i was unable to read him, and i also don't think i said the rest of you can't either. please go back and read what i posted in its context and get back to me.
don_johnson wrote:i was more alluding to the fact that it is not in town's best interest to lynch a player who is ultimately null tell. null tell players are better targeted with night actions. doesn't make a difference what set-up you are in.
I can't see any interpretation of this other than that you can't get a read on him. And since you're recommending we don't lynch him because he's "null tell," I don't see how you're not suggesting the rest of us can't read him either. Why else would you describe him that way?don_johnson wrote:dry-fit: null tell means you can't read a player. they appear as neither scum nor town.
:Shrug: Asking lots of questions is my playstyle. I haven't done a lot of analysis this game because my top suspect is SerRose and he never really posted enough to do much analysis. The cases on CA and SA don't really interest me.Regfan wrote:Dry-fit
From paste experiences (This game I was in, especially by LordChrono's play):
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13355
The mafia tend to be semi-active and ask a lot of questions to appear 'townie' but don't actually analysis or take a stance on anything until forced to or called out.
Overall read on Dry-fit - Medium read as a Mafia.
I never felt he was in such danger of a lynch to need a defense.Regfan wrote:The cases don't interest you but you do nothing to prevent the lynch of something you don't believe in??
What's scummy about this? I asked because the game was still kind of in the rvs. I did the exact same thing as town before here:viewtopic.php?p=1955038=72#1955038Bio Hazard wrote:This also pinged on my scumdar. Why wouldn't it be?Dry-fit wrote:@ Semioldguy: Is your vote for Wdjat serious?
Bio Hazard wrote:So, you derail a wdjat wagon to start a SerRose wagon. If wdjat flips scum, dry-fit is also likely scum.Dry-fit wrote:Sounds like fun.
unvote. vote: SerRose
Good. Could you explain what his point was to me, because I couldn't understand it and dj couldn't adequately explain it.Bio Hazard wrote:dry-fit calls DJ down for trying to "direct" power roles, which is complete BS, because DJ has a good point.
I agreed with SA's reasoning and wanted to apply pressure. I know it wasn't a great case or anything, but I believe that a vote for something only the slightest bit scummy is better than a random vote.Bio Hazard wrote:And how do you defend your nessarae vote, SA and dry-fit?
Again, I never felt those players were in serious danger of being lynched. I could also see where the cases on them were coming from, so it's not like I thought their wagons were scummy. I just didn't really have much to say about them.Regfan wrote:Again, you fail to spot the difference between yourself and him, you've' always mentioned your comments on the players being voted and bandwagoned whereas Dry never mentioned his and only when really attacked did he say he didn't suspect both. If he never truly suspected both people being voted, why did he never bring anything up earlier?
I was voting for you because of your predecessor's actions, and already explained my reasoning for doing so.Regfan wrote:Anyway moving on. I still believe Dry-Fit is mafia and haven't seen anything to disprove my suspicions, if anything the fact he didn't vote with the Bio lynch and instead voted against me without any reasoning increases my suspicions.
Regfan replaced SerRose....don_johnson wrote:wdjat(i think replaced serose?)
Where did that SA vote coming from? Is he getting a free pass because a couple of people said they have a town read on him?don_johnson wrote:dammit. i keep forgetting that SA is in this game. i don't like the fact that he's getting a pass here.
unvote, vote: sleeplessassasin.
He's scummy because no one is suspicious of him? I don't see you implying any suspicion of him since page six. Why is he your preferred lynch?don_johnson wrote:i think SA should be lynched. noone else seems to be suspicious of him. i am not sure why people are giving him a free pass.Dry-fit wrote: Where did that SA vote coming from? Is he getting a free pass because a couple of people said they have a town read on him?
SA has looked town to me for pretty much the entire game. He hasn't done anything scummy to me.don_johnson wrote:what is your read on SA?
what is your read on Reg and his claim?
what is your read on TDC?
He dropped a terrible omgus vote on semioldguy day 1, and continually refused to provide content or make his suspicions known.don_johnson wrote: dry: would you mind regurgitating what it was about serrose that was scummy?
Well, I'm not moving my vote because right now the competing wagons are on myself(obviously not joining that) and one forming on SA, who is one of my stronger town reads.don_johnson wrote:those on a wagon should discuss more about why they don't to move(unless they do).