Open 255 - Double Cop - Game Over

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lol that andrew has votes on him already, I am so shocked by that <sarcasm>

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ok you won't have to worry about me being active, I usually can't stop talking.

that being said, it is bed-tme for me, gotta be up in 6 hours so i will read up at work tomorrow and get going.

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wow reading back wasn't as hard as I thought, first I have seen so many people fake PRs on this game I am not believing furc's (can I call you frank?) claim.
I DEFINITELY am not believing any claim Andrew has to say, but since he is a moron and claims power roles even when he is a nilla townie i am not sure what to think about him in this game

Vote scott

Lurking scum is gonna lurk and his comment about measuring a person's participation by posts is mis-leading is true, cause people post useess fluff, Scott's lack of posts and and inability to take a side of the people who are suspect, makes me suspicious of him.

out of the 2 current wagons I would say I am leaning towards andrew being scum but I am pretty sure Scott is bigger scum

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So you don't believe Furc's claim, and andrew and I are scum. Make up your mind, all of that cannot be true.

Furc and Andrew fake claim PRs even when they are nilla townie so not beleiving their claim doesn't mean they are scum. My suspicion on Andrew is more of a personal note based on an ongoing game so can't say anything about it.

I don't want to come in here and vote Andrew and allow mafia to hammer

don, I don't feel is scum especially if furc is pushing it, I tend to be cautious when fail players lead lynches and between furc, Andrew, and shotty that is way to many VI/SI for one game

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I'm at work on my phone right now but will do it when I get home, both games are ongoing however but they are both dead

andrew claimed doc in the newbie game I'm playing now but flipped townie

furc, was lynched D1 in a game run by flameax where he claimed he was the doc and flipped town

I'm sure there are more but those are the 2 that stand out

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Andrew you realize I'm not voting you and I said that I don't beleive your claim cause you lie even when town, the fact you got defensive and didn't even vote you makes you scummy. Overreaction to what I said about you seems off since I said you may not be scum.

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out of the 2 current wagons I would say I am leaning towards andrew being scum but I am pretty sure Scott is bigger scum

hello?

I said if I had to pick from the 2 exsisting bandwagons as one of them being scum I would pick you over Don, that doesn't mean that I think you are 100% scum.

not the same thing as me saying "I think andrew is scum"

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Dude that post wasnt even about you

thanks mom, I am a big boy I can handle my own battles

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1. cop claims and you CC in a game where there are 2 cops (facepalm) - http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p2548382
2. oh shit let me backpedal and say I was not actually CC'ing - http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p2551021
3. this post makes no sense and is full of fail - http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 8#p2552058
4. Self voting is not often looked at as being pro-town, which is why I decided not to self vote myself - http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p2556111
5. u never read rules? also you said somewhere in this thread you did not notice there were 2 cops, really? - http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p2556420

all this adds up to me as being scum andrew so before I vote you I wuld like you to defend your actions in a clear concise manner. You say earlier that you can't defend a case that doesn't exsist, well Mr. andrew I just made one on you that is better than your case on.. oh wait you aren't making a case on anyone, you are so busy flailing

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But do you think andrew is scum?

p-edit:ninja'd

you're welcome

your buddying attempt is noted for later in the game.

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in fact, if your next post is not a hammer vote on me, you are mafia

you only have 2 votes and what kind of fail logic is that, if I vote you and it isn't the hammer I am mafia?
but you say I am mafia cause I am asking you to defend your own actions, which you don't do very well.

by just saying CC, that is not asking somebody to CC. now if you typed CC? than maybe I would believe it but just typing CC means you CC
later you back pedal and say you were asking.
self voting is flailing

Vote Andrew

let your scum buddy hammer you

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I would suggest you claim, and try the truth this time.

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problem is looking through his games, I can't believe him even if he does claim. I just wish he would play smarter when he plays

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hey hop
you have to unvote sir!

unvote, vote andrew

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some mods don't care, I guess this one does

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unvote;
vote: hoponmyjoystick

he can't believe shotty and I are cops when noone else is claiming cop, or at least he can't believe I am.
His lack of belief, plus him saying "andrew does this as townie" has actually convinced me he does somewhat.
He then goes on to vote him in his last post, and while the case is good, it just all feels too easy for him. Everyone figured Andrew was scum, I was simply trying to figure out who his buddy was. HopOnMyJoystick has went from defending andrew to giving up hope and bussing. Therefore, because of my intuition, I am for lynching this guy.

I don't believe you or Shotty are cops, but you know what else, I also don't believe in lynching a claimed cop on day 1.
And I was never 100% andrew not being scum, just like I am not 100% sure anyone else is scum. I just go off the meta that I have seen on Andrew and know what he is like, and the reason why I voted him was because he basically dared me to vote him. My vote wasn't 100% serious on him.

now I will say using my own reasoning andrew just seems to scummy to be scum, mafia I don't think would be so obvious so I am going back to my original vote

unvote, vote scott

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My case isn't the greatest but it is more than what others are doing, I'm really just trying to get him to participate, if he is busy than he should replace out. If he isn't than he needs to participate.

And I have seen mafia use this strategy before, but have also seen them fake claim cop too

day 1 is a crap shoot which is why we try and find scum and if not, a scummy nilla townie is the next safest lynch. Never lynch a claimed cop day 1

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Wow you guys need to stop talking, so many paged to read just from today's posting alone

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Furc my votes have been on 2 people, Scott the lurker and Andrew who said if I did not hammer vote him I am scum. That post alone is enough to suspect Andrew is scum in my book. he fake CCs but later back tracks yet another reason to suspect him

than I went back to my inital suspect because lurkers help nobody scum hunt, lurkers provide no info to look at when scum hunting. If we don't have a sample of posts and reasons why he thinks people are scum, there is no way we can get a town or scum read

coasting til day 2 isn't gonna fly with me.

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Drmy voting claimed cop is fail

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dude, what drugs are you on?
you have to be on something strong to have that far fetched of an idea

@zed, i was seeing how you responded

@shotty, so you think there's a cop floating around? I claimed at L-1, bro. You "softclaimed" with no fucking votes on you really. Which looks worse? Answer.

Did shotty claim cause he thought Andrew claimed?

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I have played a 2 cop game before where cops know each other, suprised it isn't that way here on this site

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i'll give him untill the end of today

Wow how generous of you

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ill give it 8 hour

WTF man?!?!
really I know we are on his wagon but you havent really even spoken against him but you are going to hammer?

you said you were going to give him til tonight to post and you put him at L-1

WTF with you?

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lol this is so fucked up right now

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now I think andrew may have a point on Don, but I still think andrew is scummy.

I am gonna shit myself if Andrew and Don are the scum team

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and Scott, if by the time I wake up there are not some significant content in your posts (or if you haven't posted at all) I will push for your lynch.

ignore what the riff raff is doing and make a case on somebody. you wanna make a case on me, do it just make some sort of case on somebody with VALID reasons.

you laying low isn't looking to good for you

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nobody hammers until scott talks or you are lynched tomorrow no matter what

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HOMJ shutup
you are in no position of authority

you NEVER hammer without a claim, if you disagree i will start a bandwagon back up on you for being a moron.

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Drmy voting claimed cop is fail

If you think hammering without a claim is acceptable than you are not pro town which would disprove your cop claim making it acceptable to lynch you

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if you think that scum don't fakeclaim you are a moron
hammering without a claim when we have 2 cop claims in a 2 cop setup is perfectly acceptable

Exactly and that is assuming your claim and shotty's claim are true

see my favorite story as a kid was boy who cried wolf, and you have cried wolf before so your cop claim means nothing to me, I could see mafia both claiming cop to force real cops to claim

shotty is known VI so his claim is taken with a grainof salt

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i was about to vote andrew, but i like my vote on you more and more HopOn

Cause making sense is scummy?

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The cop claims if true are dumb since there is no doc, so townie fake claiming to draw mafia's attention could also be a possibility but we can deal wih that on day 2

Andrew said he isn't a cop so he would be good lynch if Scott doesn't happen

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I'd like a vote count by RealGod

Scott seems on the level, furc and shotty claim cop, leaves Andrew odd man out and scummy as hell

unvote, vote Andrew

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so is that a lynch?

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seriously andrew, you were at L-1 and you didn't claim anything, Scott hammers. who the hell hammers without a claim.

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actually, change of plan.

furc and i are confirmed. one of shotty/brosius are scum. hop is 100%.

vote: hoponmyjoystick

you are confirmed what? lunatic? cause the only thing I am 100%, is 100% town

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why? if i am town and shotty is scum. then hop is his partner. we're not lynching shotty. its a much better play to lynch the 100% scum whose claiming townie than the 50% scum claiming cop.

wow what kind of logic is that? anyone can use that same logic.

I actually believe andrew had a point pushing for your lynch, clearly he picked up on something that you were scum.

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not sure why we are even discussing this

Vote scott

d1 you don't lynch a cop claim
d2 you lynch the cop guilty

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hop's reluctance to vote scott right off the bat lends to the idea that scott is hop's scum partner. -

how about I wanted to wait to see what furc had to say but than seeing you and scot playing off each other looking like the perfect scum team. Out of the 2 cop claims yesteday, no suprise I am going to believe shotty over furc cause furc fake claims PRs like it is going out of style, so either they both are lying or one is telling the truth. Only way to find out is to test the guilty from the claim cop.

hop is bussing.

didn't know town could bus each other

now we just need an opinion from furc.

if you trust the fate of the game to furc than you HAVE to be mafia

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hop's reluctance to vote scott right off the bat lends to the idea that scott is hop's scum partner. -

how about I wanted to wait to see what furc had to say but than seeing you and scot playing off each other looking like the perfect scum team. Out of the 2 cop claims yesteday, no suprise I am going to believe shotty over furc cause furc fake claims PRs like it is going out of style, so either they both are lying or one is telling the truth. Only way to find out is to test the guilty from the claim cop.

hop is bussing.

didn't know town could bus each other

now we just need an opinion from furc.

if you trust the fate of the game to furc than you HAVE to be mafia

"testing" a guilty is not something we do in lylo. from your pov, scum team is scott/dj from the moment of scotts first post. what do you need to "wait and "see"?

you are voting scott. do you think scott is town? that doesn't make any sense.

i don't "trust the fate of the game to furc". i think its worth hearing his opinion before we lynch. from my pov, you are 100% scum. shotty/scott is still mathematically 50/50.

I want to wait and see what furc has to say because furc could be scum too and him and shotty could be a scum team. I know what I am and I know somebody is lying and i just need to figure out who it is

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unvote

I want to wait til I hear from the other claimed cop.

it is very easy for scott to come in and claim cop when cop has guilty on him but shotty could also be lying and scott really is cop. I want to see how furc is playing today

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Scott actually makes a good point, assuming both cop claims are real, one would be dead and one would be blocked. that hasn't happened.

it is possible for mafia to not kill the cops but that would seem like a bold risk, now I understand why Scott thinks I am partners with shotty and I know why am a FOS of his, since I tried to get him lynched yesterday, but my reasoning was valid. I personally don't like inactives to slide through.

my problem is the only guilty we have is claiming cop so I vote for him yet I am suspicious for it, I forgot it was lylo.

unvote

off to a football game, hopefully we can figure this out but I strongly suggest this being lylo, you unvote me cause I can tell you 100% I am pro-town

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bah go town

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hey way to go shotty, thanks for saving my ass.
Andrew -NEVER claim a power role as a townie, NEVER, stick to knitting or something
/pre in for your next game also

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hence, i propose an instant lynch on hoponmyjoystick tommorrow. if everyone agrees to lynch hop 2morrow, i shall hammer

hello? hop is mafia? obv much

you realize that you are the boy who cried wolf?

you lie in so many of your games when you are town, how the fuck is anyone going to believe what you say.

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Andrew, as a townie there is no shame being lynched, a lynch of a townie is just as useful as a lynch of a townie who fake claims

I have been in 2 games with you and both you were townie and claimed PR, you don't think that is going to stay in my mind and when you are really a cop, I won't beleive you. Yeah I know you are supposed to treat each game different but when somebody establishes a history of it, it's gonna bite you in the ass one day.

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When will that be fake?

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I get credit for the win? I like you don:)

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He looked pretty