Open 381 - Day 4

[mcqueen]

Hello, and good luck to all!

The Golden Rule:

Please remember that this is a game and your main objective is to have fun! Be considerate of each other, don’t get personal, and enjoy the game. Playing to win does not preclude being considerate of each other!

And remember to have fun.

kondi2424, we meet again.

VOTE: kondi2424

[mcqueen]

I'm back form my usual weekend V/LA. I'll have caught up by tomorrow, as I'm relatively busy tonight.

[mcqueen]

Ok. Sorry I haven't been posting much, I've been sort of busy.

As for reads - I dislike hokorippoi's play highly, and it seems he is playing dumb with us, but a vote on him just doesn't feel right. Elmo TeH AzN was apparently sick, and seeing this, when he made the mistake about the vig, it could of been a careless mistake, due to him being sick, not due to his alignment. So, in the end, it is a null tell. Malee, to be quite honest, I'm glad she's getting replaced, as I've had a hard time reading her. kondi2424's just being kondi2424, and the rest I don't have much to say about.

[mcqueen]

As much as hokorippoi seems scum, as I've said, a vote on him just doesn't fit right.

[mcqueen]

As much as hokorippoi seems scum, as I've said, a vote on him just doesn't fit right.

Why not? Every post after every post I read from him was scummier then the previous one.
VOTE: Hok

Just gut feeling it's a wrong vote. I don't get guts often, but when I do, 99.99% of the time they're right.

[mcqueen]

@Antihero - I don't remember much about Kamikrazy, but Pizzadudes7 is a one-liner post kind of player. He is capable of giving reads, as I've seen him do it, he just chooses not to.

[mcqueen]

Nah, too lazy.

@Antihero - I don't remember much about Kamikrazy, but Pizzadudes7 is a one-liner post kind of player. He is capable of giving reads, as I've seen him do it, he just chooses not to.

ANTIHERO'S OFFICIAL FORM FOR META DEFENSE

LINK TO GAME AS TOWN: _________________

LINK TO GAME AS SCUM: _________________

RELEVANT COMMENTS: ________________________________________

Thank you very much for you time. And if you can't be bothered to give me good meta, please don't bring it up again.

[mcqueen]

Yep, he replaced in.

[mcqueen]

Either for him or Malee.

[mcqueen]

Either for him or Malee.

I replaced Malee. Hiplop replaced Rocky.

I really don't get why McQueen seems to be defending people so much on Day 1, why do you feel the need to do this? And you have to give me a better reason than 'gut'.

I'm not defending him [hoko], I've never said one thing about anybody elses' votes on him, I just said I wouldn't place my own there, because it doesn't fit right with me.

[mcqueen]

Oops didn't want to hit submit quite yet.....ahem.

Now, tell me, why are you defending him?

I'm not.

Here was, and still is, my response -

Either for him or Malee.

I replaced Malee. Hiplop replaced Rocky.

I really don't get why McQueen seems to be defending people so much on Day 1, why do you feel the need to do this? And you have to give me a better reason than 'gut'.

I'm not defending him [hoko], I've never said one thing about anybody elses' votes on him, I just said I wouldn't place my own there, because it doesn't fit right with me.

He also always does this.

Can you explain to me why lynching useless people Day 1 is better than lynching scum? If you give me an actual good reason, I might just go with it. Pizza and GNR are never going to do anything.

That's funny, because I think the exact same thing about you.

There

is

a way to differentiate VI behavior and scum behavior. VI's might drop in and say really stupid stuff from time to time that might, in some twisted sense, be viewed as new or contributory (any of you ever played with vezokpiraka?). Town VIs will generally just be useless without apology; scum will be useless while stalling and promising content at some later point in time.

Promising content later in time is not a scumtell, it's only a mere lazy tell. Get your facts straight, please.

[mcqueen]

Promising content later in time is not a scumtell, it's only a mere lazy tell. Get your facts straight, please.

/sigh
Could you not be a condescending ass? Or could you please go back to not talking? Either one would be great.

It's your opinion, not a fact.

Ah! I keep putting catching up on this game off. Im going to try now

These kinds of posts need to stop.

Dude, seriously? Do you think these kinds of posts are helping us? Telling people not to post one-liners isn't going to make them stop - look at Pizzadudes7, or even Kise. Just keep discussing, and eventually the mafia will kill them off, or we'll eventually lynch them off. Their loss, not ours. So you don't need to make it ours, either.

I see you as town, dude, just stop holding us back - let the discussion flow, or make some discussion. Don't rant on about something that you'll never change.

[mcqueen]

Just keep discussing, and eventually the mafia will kill them off, or we'll eventually lynch them off. Their loss, not ours.

Seriously read this and tell me how it is town driven.

I meant it in the view that they'll be out of the game, and won't have a chance to play it out, whereas we will, no matter our alignment. We get to have a full fun game, while they are dead somewhere else.

[mcqueen]

I don't see how its town driven, or scum driven for that matter, but the post just strikes me as odd

Vote:mcqueen

Why does an odd post suddenly spark you for a vote? Especially when you said you cannot place it as town or scum driven.

I would like to know why you just jumped on me, because of one odd post, that actually has a [real life, not town nor scum] meaning, if you all would read it right.

*Of course kondi2424 isn't going to read it right, any chance he gets to jump on me, he takes it.

[mcqueen]

mcqueen, the mafia will NEVER kill lurkers. That would be a shit play.

There, now you have no excuse.

Well then town will eventually lynch them off, so they can play the rest of the game with active, hardworking players.

[mcqueen]

So you're saying we should spend our time policy-lynching instead of finding scum?

No. We will

eventually

lynch them off, after we lynch scum. And if we're lucky enough to have lynched all scum in a couple days, then I guess the lurkers got lucky, and stayed until the end.

But my main point in the original post was to don't keep telling people, like Pizzadudes7, to post content, as they never will. Don't rant on about it, about something you'll never change, but rather rant on about something more noteworthy to the game. That's all my point was - that you're never going to change people like Pizzadudes7, so don't waste your time trying.

[mcqueen]

Good ole hiplop. Nice to see you.

[mcqueen]

The problem is even as Kondi said is they won't everyone knows this or at least I thought it was common knowledge. Face it if you're scum do you want active people or people who have no idea whats going on in the game? Ill let you sit and answer that.

People who have no idea what's going on. But my main point was that I wasn't making that statement in either alignment's shoes, rather in a regular, real life, person's shoes, so I don't want people to read me, based on that single post, but rather on my entire gameplay.

[mcqueen]

hiplop, for some reason, your avvie creeps me out.

[mcqueen]

@FuDuzn - No, I'm much worse.

[mcqueen]

Also, my comment on my vote on mcqueenI've played with mcqueen before and he's always hard to read. I didn't see his post as town, but not completly as scum, just something about it struck me as odd, so I voted him. I honestly don't know why I think it's bad, I just do.

Sadly I can agree with this. mcqueen is a person I have the hardest time reading overall. I can't tell what he is half the time. Its almost like Pizzadudes with me. But overall as it was pointed out hoko and saying we need to lynch the Role cop can be overeager town but I have a feeling that its not.

If the relationship is the same way, that is gonna be a b****. Mcqueen was scum in the only game I played with him. I never liked him (no offense, your playstyle irks me as much as mine irks EVERYONE!!!)

You didn't like me because I was V/LA when Day 1 ended, and while Night 1 was in progress, so I did nothing in the means of helping my partner, and ended up getting lynched the next day.

[mcqueen]

Also, I was cop with a guilty on you, but we'll leave that out.

Whatever, I didn't even know, because I was V/LA when I died.

[mcqueen]

??? Im kinda lost here

We are talking about previous game I was in with mcqueen when he was scum.

To answer the question, he is playing in a very similar style, but I cannot site directly because of the rollback. Lucky scum, you.

The thing is, I'm playing nothing like I did in that game, as I played pretty badly, while I wasn't V/LA. hiplop, you may have a hard time reading me, but if you look at one of my town games, and one of my scum games, after they are completed, it's pretty easy to differentiate one from the other. And you should see that this is my town meta. Just throwing that out there.

Besides, there are a lot of better lynches for today, than me.

[mcqueen]

Same here. Also, we can't look at any of your games because they were all lost. IF you have any recently finished games, then by all means, share. But, Elmo is right, your a flailing with barely any votes on you.

I have games, but all of them are ongoing. I wish I could share them, but alas, everyone knows the rules. Sorry.

[mcqueen]

mcqueen "bumps" the thread.

[mcqueen]

Kassadin wouldn't be a bad place to start. His ISO isn't that good, as only 1 or 2 of his 9 posts have anything noteworthy in them, both of which are one-liners, which barely pass as content.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kassadin

[mcqueen]

He does this every game, even when he's town. He's a poor player and his lack of English makes him always seem scummy (I look into a lot of his games, because I find it entertaining to see how quickly he gets lynched because of it). If we want to PL him that's fine, but I don't think that's an appropriate scum wagon to hop on right now.

My mistake, as I didn't know this beforehand.

UNVOTE:

Sadly, I'm going to have to say it - hokorippoi I want a claim (now), before I hammer you, as you seem like the destined lynchee today.

[mcqueen]

Please, fuck off tonight. I'm really not in the mood, and I'd hate to take it out on ya'll.

[mcqueen]

Sadly, I'm going to have to say it - hokorippoi I want a claim (now), before I hammer you, as you seem like the destined lynchee today.

So you want to end the day earlier and end discussion rather than wait?

I would word it differently, but yes. Because hoko is scummy.

[mcqueen]

why?

Don't want to talk about it, but I'm fine now.

Ok. I am the Backup Rolecop. That is why I said I wanted the Mafia Rolecop dead.

This is extremely stupid, and I have a feeling it's real. It wouldn't fit hokorippoi's personality to lie about this.

VOTE: hokorippoi

[mcqueen]

Bah. Go town!

[mcqueen]

Good game.

[mcqueen]

So that's why you killed me...

By the way, I never got to post this, but when I posted this -

why?

Don't want to talk about it, but I'm fine now.

Ok. I am the Backup Rolecop. That is why I said I wanted the Mafia Rolecop dead.

This is extremely stupid, and I have a feeling it's real. It wouldn't fit hokorippoi's personality to lie about this.

VOTE: hokorippoi

it was supposed to say, "This is extremely stupid, and I have a feeling it's fake

real

. It wouldn't fit hokorippoi's personality to claim like

lie about

this," because he had claimed a role in another game, and it had been fake, too. I felt really stupid messing up a hammer post. I thought if I made it through the night, I would of been pounced on over that mishap.

[mcqueen]

@GNR - Fuuuuuuuuuu. lol.

@komdi - Yea, I was the jailkeeper, and I forgot who I jailkept on Night 1. I thought it was GNR, but apparently not...

@Tajun - Yea, very smooth game, as kondi said. It's also good we don't hate each other anymore.

[mcqueen]

Yea, I actually did jailkeep GNR Night 1.

[mcqueen]

OH... So our kill was the only real one! Looks like it was good after all.