Open 374 Pick Your Power - Redux!

[Hiraki]

Let's go

[Hiraki]

Rainbow v/s Hoopla is town/town. Easy shit right there.

I actually didn't know this was pre-crash so boo because now I don't actually have a clean slate.

Free day all of tomorrow, will reread and post then.

VOTE: Hoopla

Whatever the hell Hoopla is doing doesn't read as town to me. Izak is fine too, especially after like 3 wagons on him have died, one of those being a counter wagon to townlop.

Welp.

This is all you have

after a free day?

wlep wlep wlep

You have successfully explained why the hammer isn't scummy (I don't think anyone was accusing him of making a scummy hammer?), but nothing in your explanation explains how the hammer makes him more likely to be town. You went off on some tangent about town being more likely to do openly scummy things, but I don't see how hammering at deadline is openly scummy. As far as I remember the people that took issue with his hammer post (me and amrun?) took issue with the other line in it, not the hammer itself.

Oh please. A vote accompanies this too. I haven't read the cache yet, but I don't think RD hammered. Therefore, why the fuck are you voting him?

Meh, this is a bit screwed up.

VOTE: Hoopla

Thanks for helping. A lot.

Fuck this. I need to read the cache in order to understand this.

just remember bacanaros

hoopla and rd are town

or gtfo

[Hiraki]

Read the cache before asking context based questions.

Yeah, I was too lazy to edit.

sorry it was like 1 AM

[Hiraki]

Oh god.

I thought this would be 10 or 15 pages or something.

But 59?

fuck you mod(not seriously but seriously. you should've probably said something to that extent in the replacement thread

and if you did, fuck you uhhh

i forgot who does it but I know they start with--quilford

fuck you quilford)

You're going to have to give me time.

[Hiraki]

ALRIGHT.

LET'S DO THIS.

Fuck Isa. Hate his first posts. To note, they're not scummy. Just douchey. Not classy, like me.

THE GAME IS DEEP SOUTH

For those of you who dont know what deep south setups are, it means that we have "nights" but they resolve instantly. Basically you submit your action during the day, somepony gets lynched, mod resolves all actions, unlocks the thread. Get in your actions if you plan to use them now.

I am aware you are a nice guy.

But this really doesn't need to be pointed out.

It's more of a good thing to keep silent rather than to say it. Especially if the mod is a douche(verdict: pending)

I'd rather have a no kill night then a night with a kill and possible scum-catching. What's done is done though, so let us be done with it.

Rainbow, why do you think actions should be used now instead of later in the day?

Oh no.

You again.

Would you two cut this out it isn't helping.

good posting

why yall want him dead

Oh god. The beginning of this game is horrible. Thank god I'm listening to some decent music.

Hola, No Day-Start PM?

douchebag mod

What specificaly would you qualify as 'Not good'?

Stop these stupid questions at once.

No, seriously Chamber. If I see any more shit like this, I'm going to rage.

Alright fuck you chamber.

You're honestly pissing me the fuck off. More than anyone else has combined. I'm not mad at you, you're just acting really fucking stupid.

Stop doing that.

Chamber/Izak both seem, weird. If i were forced to bet whos scum in this game, it'd be one of these 2, I think.

YES.

This is scumtalk. I don't care if hiplop is flipped town. This is scumtalk and I am happy to see it.

even if it's not by scum

izak is obv town

RD prob town

shin prob town

DeasVail, you don't seem as obv town as the last time we played together, why do you think that is?

is it because he's not being stupid?

which is actually better than stupid

so he's eh town

Hoopla is prob scum for pushing this number thing to the limit

much to hypothetical than provable

Don't get the lol amrun is town posts

there's nothing blatantly screaming town there

i'm on page 10 and bored

come on guys

and step up ya game, will ya?

[Hiraki]

early game reactions take priority

especially because that entire post really doesn't count anymore

[Hiraki]

Sorry guys for taking so long.

I should have a wrap up of the rest of the game done by tonight or tomorrow(morning like EST 1ish)

I'm half-way through now, but I don't want to post it half-complete.

Don't stop for me mind you, I'm all suprises for WTF walls

[Hiraki]

hey fuck you cunts

i need to finish this wall damnit

scum

kill me

and i will destroy you in end-game.

[Hiraki]

no

[Hiraki]

Vote: Hoopla

Generally agreeing with Dash from where I am, and I'm pretty sure this is where I like my vote.

I'll finish up later.

[Hiraki]

I'll have a VCA up by tonight for reference. This game gets really boring. That's why this is taking me this long to finish reading it. I'll have that done by the end of this week though.

[Hiraki]

I'm expecting your long post today, Hiraki.

Ok.

[Hiraki]

Okay, Hikari next.

I don't know if any of you got a "cool" role PM but all I have is a simple explanation that I'm a VT.

[Hiraki]

Do you know what Isa tried to get?

Nope, that's it.

[Hiraki]

Next, Hiraki says HIS PM does not contain what Isa tried and failed to get. He doesn't even KNOW what Isa tried and failed to get.

The mod basically made the PM out of his head. I have

no information

other than my PM. That was it. I don't think this is a lying issue. Think it's just mod is really lazy issue.

Mod. Can I have this information?

[Hiraki]

The mod basically made the PM out of his head.

Huh?

This is sample. It's "you're a X"

I'd type in vanilla townie, but I'd be quoting at that point. No joke.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: That should state

"This isn't sample."

[Hiraki]

He tried for 2-shot tracker too, to note for fun.

[Hiraki]

he didn't send role info to hiraki cuz hiraki is scum gg

In the case of Hiraki, no previous role attempted for by Isa was sent, in mod error.

[Hiraki]

lol hiraki it's okay don't get mad just rack it up too mod fuck up gg

But you realize that even if Isa was scum, (s)he'd still have to send in a choice, right?

[Hiraki]

Because if the mod hadn't made an error, you had just made a significant scumslip? Uh ... how is that not obvious?

I'll have my post up later. Swears it.

[Hiraki]

Because if the mod hadn't made an error, you had just made a significant scumslip? Uh ... how is that not obvious?

I'll have my post up later. Swears it.

This didn't happen because I got sick.

one more day though. swears it(doubley so)

PoliticalClout: why would I change my reasoning

I mean, I don't think you're scum

but I have to admit that you're using quite useless methods if you thought you'd get anywhere with that

[Hiraki]

i'm on page 10 and bored

come on guys

and step up ya game, will ya?

LET'S GOOOOOOO.

Page 11. Let's use meta! Why? Good question!

I thought it was more than that?

UNVOTE: chamber
VOTE: hiplop

hiplop - scum
hoopla - leaning town
chamber - leaning scum
isa - null

I would vote for hiplop in light of recent posts, but I think the bandwagon is enough for now.

Yup. He deserved death.

I get voting using numbers, but I'd rather use the numbers for later and use the scumhunting as the primary source. I'm disturbed that no one else is saying this though.

To clarify, we shouldn't pick someone random from the unique numbers - we could possibly do better by scumhunting. I was just making a point.

I feel like this is a lie though and you were going for the opposite with all the talk about it.

And before you go "but Hiraki, I wasn't going to pick randomly! That's stupid"

your scumbuds could be in the singles.

heck even with disagreement I would be trying to convince those who disagree but nopony has done such.

This is townDash. He's annoying when town.

Scott is prob. scum. I won't say definitely, but there's a very good chance.

Tierce: I find hiplop scummy, but your argument is bad. You give examples of him doing something as scum, but absolutely no indication that he DOESN'T do those things as town. Everyone is basically forced to completely ignore that entire thing.

This puts all my thoughts of Tierce at this point.

page 16

UNVOTE: hiplop

This guy is like 100% town. best town read yet

uh first post of page 17 really wants me to go rain/shidajii scum/town argument, but I don't have the heart to say that.

VOTE: hiplop

forget what I said above and put back to prob scum

Completely able to compromise on Tierce instead of Hoopla.

You guys choose though.

Chamber is acting, and still is I assume, like an idiot

not much you can do there

Xaxle isn't scum, but he might be dead.

not sure, bit confused but reading on

Chamber voting hiplop is more useless than scummy

not sure how to read him because it's impossible

alright, so I actually fell asleep doing this. going to keep on trucking page 28

would you as a scumbag deliberately try and rile me, as a townie, up?

This is scumtalks if I have ever heards it befores.

Now you come into today saying that hiplop being town has you all paranoid of us it seems, and are actually no longer interested in the single numbers.

Yes. I am so glad someone realized this one fast. I'm looking forward to hearing a response.

I am suspicious of DeasVail again

HERE IS THE KICKER.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I NEED YOU TO READ THIS.

Hoopla is suspicious of Deas Vail. But wait!

A page before....

although I'm considering it a little more as BBMolla and DeasVail start to look town.

Really? But the worst part has yet to come!

I rely on number theory earlier in the game because I trust it over my own and others instincts

You're manipulating it. That's what you're doing.

lynching is NS is bad

and you should all feel bad for thinking about doing that

Shindaji's points on Page 38 about Xaxle's mood changes about NS make me feel stupid. He actually looks scummy now.

Out of all the people who accept NS' meta, the last I'd expect would be Deas, and he just takes it. Sure he's not going to get a lynch anytime soon, but w/e.

So now you find it scummy. Nice.

This is scumDeas. Calling it right now. Forget anything I've said about him being a townie before, seriously. I don't even remember what I wrote in half of this post, but this right here is scum.

so reading Hoopla's defense against Dash made me think of one person

obama

now die hoopla

I think her case on me was well put together and likely to have been produced by a Rainbow that genuinely believes what she is saying. I kinda get the feeling she wouldn't be so brazen to harrass me this much if she were scum.

This is WIFOM against an attacker. I've done this multiple times and it's worked too.

Did Amrun replace someone? Keep forgetting that she's in this game damnit.

yo tierce

get better caches por favor

asshole(but not really)

All it stops is the 1-Shot Vig from a scum perspective...

Pretty damn sure someone said that you should look at roles as they help scum

Hoopla is manipulating here. I usually don't do these type of "conspiracy" tells but there is something wrong here and he needs to die

Amrun is null for me at the moment.

than obvscum Hoopla?

Okay, I need to stop here. I'm at the end anyway.

However Deas, when arguing about his vote on izak stated that he didn't need to bring any reasoning to the table against Izak because Izak didn't give any with Hoopla.

HOLY SHIT.

EVEN DEAS IS CALLING HOOPLA OBVSCUM.

WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU GUYS?

deas is also manipulating, but in a more visible way

so to end this shorter than usual wall

here's a little funlist

Scum: Deas/Hoopla
Null: Chamber, BBmolla, Xalxe
Town: Everyone else

[Hiraki]

Well, I guess that sorts out where scum is in the 6's.

Is this another gut read?

[Hiraki]

Yes we do.

[Hiraki]

The entire game pretty much agrees that number picks, role pick, play, makes DV town.

Yowhooo!

I'm not part of the entire game

and I'm pretty sure the above shows that DV's play is not very astonishing.

besides

proof before claim

that's what I always say

[Hiraki]

PC is VI. Stop wasting your time.

I need to read the plan again.

[Hiraki]

Why not VI-scum?

I've thought of this.

Replaces Xalxe!

That's why.

[Hiraki]

I don't understand why you are still confused about my alignment - this is why we'll never win as town together.

YOU GOT A SCUMREAD DUE TO A GUT READ, WITH NO REASON ON IT.

THAT'S WHY.

FFS. IT'S THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT I'VE HEARD IN DAYS(molenyoux's little speech on why his life was a failure is the biggest bullshit I've heard in years, mind you)

[Hiraki]

No, um.

That's why we're not lynching PC.

Because PC replaced Xalxe.

PC is in another game with me. He's VI material. He'll deny it.

they all do

[Hiraki]

No, um.

That's why we're not lynching PC.

Because PC replaced Xalxe.

PC is in another game with me. He's VI material. He'll deny it.

they all do

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

standard rules apply

I could've easily said this fits in town meta

really doesn't differentiate

[Hiraki]

K

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

or is this a gut feeling too?

[Hiraki]

You got me.

Oh well. Hoopla's gut prevails! Abandon reason ye' mateys, russian roulette and manipulation always prevail!