Open 410 Trouble in Paradise Game Over TOWN WIN

[TvK]

VOTE: Chrimi

[TvK]

VOTE: Everyone
OMGYASP (Oh my gog you all suck potatoes)

Do dee doo, I am now mildly hyper for some reason lol.

You are mildly hyper because you are so ecited about being scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Om

[TvK]

I've been in arguments with scum where they try to make me emotional so I can slip up. His posts are giving me the exact same tone.

It's irrational because he's using the wrong things for the wrong arguments, and he is arguing a point which doesn't even make sense.

So don't fall for it. Just give some rational answers instead of saying "he is scum because he's trying to get me up". My vote indeed was RVS, but I think I'm going to keep it on you for a while. And "I'm ignoring him from now" is not helping you at all.

[TvK]

TvK, I would expect you of all people to know that Om flails epicly when under pressure.

Yes I know, but last time he was town as well so I don't want him to do the same thing twice.

[TvK]

That makes no sense.
So, your wording implies you think I'm town here too?

I'm saying that if you are town, you should change your way of reacting to other people's posts.

[TvK]

TvK, I would expect you of all people to know that Om flails epicly when under pressure.

Yes I know, but last time

he was town as well

so I don't want him to do the same thing twice.

With this I was pointing out that I thought there was a major similarity with the last time we played together. Om was town there and flailed almost exactly the same way as he was doing here.

[TvK]

Wow, I sure look very bad. I would vote myself too in this situation. I know that I probably can't convince you that I'm absolutely not scum by explaining what I was thinking, so I'll just say this: don't lynch me, you're gonna need me later, I just know.

[TvK]

I am jailkeeper.

[TvK]

should i just hammer?

Anyways, I want to hammer

you but do you think its too early to hammer? Anyways, I am showing intent so please claim. If anyone else feels its too early hop off the wagon but scumslip to me is scumslip

Has no problems at all ending the day early, even in Om's case. But when the spotlight is on him, trying to lynch someone quickly suddenly became a reason be voted.

Okay, no lynching TvK yet.
Everyone get on the Gen_Wolf wagon.
VOTE: Gen_Wolf

I'll comment further on TvK's claim after the night phase.

Why now?

Ah, anyways

Vote: Om of the Nom

Why are you so adamant to hurry a lynch?

VOTE: Gen_Wolf

This is L-1.

[TvK]

I'm keeping my vote on GW for now. I can't seem to find a better place for it.

[TvK]

The more I look at Om and Gen, the more I feel like they're both town desperately convinced that the other is scum. So for now I'll
UNVOTE:

For the others, Peregrine and kondi lean town, all others are null.

[TvK]

The more I look at Om and Gen, the more I feel like they're both town desperately convinced that the other is scum. So for now I'll
UNVOTE:

For the others, Peregrine and kondi lean town, all others are null.

Did you not see the part where I called Om town and that he is just on a vengeance mission?

Just stating that I have that feeling as well.

For LS, he's not at all the busy scumhunting townie he normally is. What Jal said makes perfect sense. He didn't dare to immediatly vote me as he thought that if others didn't see the same as he saw, he'd come across as scummy.

[TvK]

TvK

: Who do you think is scummy?

LS is the scummiest person. So,

VOTE: Lastsurvivor

[TvK]

TvK

: Who do you think is scummy?

LS is the scummiest person. So,

VOTE: Lastsurvivor

Why is LS scummiest?

For LS, he's not at all the busy scumhunting townie he normally is. What Jal said makes perfect sense. He didn't dare to immediatly vote me as he thought that if others didn't see the same as he saw, he'd come across as scummy.

[TvK]

LS doing some nice hunting there. I'm still not convinced that Kondi is scummy. Not sure what to think about Jal. I'll make a bigger post tomorrow, I don't have much time now.

[TvK]

What I meant by saying that LS is doing some nice hunting, is that I finally start to see what I'm expecting from him. This however doesn't mean that I'm suddenly not suspicious of him anymore.

For kondi, I especially liked his post 227. And I haven't really seen him doing anything scummy except for keeping me on his sus list.

For Jal, he's posting a lot, but he isn't really telling us something. He asks a lot of questions, and I'm waiting for him to show us the wrong answers. Also another detail on kondi thinking he breadcrumbed to be jk; he was the last one to get his vote off me.

For shotgun, totally absolutely null.

[TvK]

In the discussion between GW and Om, he totally stayed on the sidelines. The only thing he ever said were some posts about not quickhammering and how a quickhammerer would act.

His first serious vote was on me, after first awaiting to see if other people thought the same way about my post as he did. Why would he first want to hear from someone else instead of voting me immediatly?

Then his focus goes to kondi, because he changes his reads too quickly. His main argument is kondi's flip-floppiness (he actually made 4 posts in a row that included flip and flop(py)).

Finally, he links Jal to kondi and now finally he's giving some decent arguments why Jal would be scummy. And these decent arguments, that's what I call scumhunting, everything else he did, isn't.

[TvK]

I jailed PV.

[TvK]

I don't think scum thought out that night kill thoroughly.

TvK: I want a base reads list from you. Also - why PV?

I got town vibes from you, Om and GW. Shotgun, vijay, PV and LS were null. So I picked PV.

[TvK]

I don't think scum thought out that night kill thoroughly.

TvK: I want a base reads list from you. Also - why PV?

I got town vibes from you, Om and GW. Shotgun, vijay, PV and LS were null. So I picked PV.

From this, I take it you were not going for the protect, but for the block. But, had you protected me, you wouldn't have known. So, just curious why you would not use the protect role on someone you thought was town.

I went for you because of this. I didn't get a town nor a scumread on you, so I could block or protect you. If there was no nk, than you were or the shooter or the target and we would stand a lot further than we are standing now.

[TvK]

Don't really know what to think of the SB and LS argument. Rereading, will post more later.

[TvK]

Prod received.

I said I would be rereading everything in my last post. Well, I didn't yet. I'll post something useful after I did so.

[TvK]

I jailed shotgun.

[TvK]

My reasoning? You were my main scumread all day 2. LS got lynched and flipped tracker and also pointed at you as his main scumread. So it would be a bit too obvious to jail you. SB and Jal seemed more townish than shotgun and PV, who were still absolute nullreads at that point. And as I already jailed PV day 1, my choice for shotgun was pretty obvious, especially after his stupid hammer.

So what I think what happened. Scum didn't try to kill me day 1 as I wasn't totally confirmed by then, but I can't see how I wouldn't be the target of the nk. Do I think shotgun is scum? Yes.

Also PV, you said I'm the closest thing to being confirmed town. What makes it that I'm not 100% confirmed?

[TvK]

I can't see a reason to not vote shotgun. And, man I have troubles reading other people.