Open 416: SCIENCE - Experiment Complete.

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Yo guys, I'm V/LA for today. Can't be on for long.

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Okay then, V/LA is luckily ended unexpectedly.
Also as if you guys would wagon me in RVS :P
I'm always super duper spehul awesome potatoes townie.

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You wish bro.
I'm either super obvious pro town or transparent "why are you guys reading me as town?" town.
Or scum, that's also a possibility.

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No problem :3

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Why is VM town?

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My dog hops when she's in the water at the beach. It looks hilarious.

Also what are your reasons?

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Don't get why the first two mean he's town but I get the last one. Still, elaborate.

Also my dog falls down our stairs sometimes. Luckily she's very resilient. It would make for some good TV though :V

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DOGS COME UNDER SCIENCE.
I CALL IT SCIEDOGOLOGY. THE STUDY OF THE SCIENCE OF DOGS.

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DOGS COME UNDER SCIENCE.
I CALL IT SCIEDOGOLOGY. THE STUDY OF THE SCIENCE OF DOGS.

...

ARE YOU

TRYING

TO MAKE THE REACHIEST COMMENTS YOU CAN MAKE, OM?!

I AM OFFENDED.
VOTE: VOIDEDMAFIA
OH MY GOD YOU SUCK
UNVOTE:

In other words, I don't really have much to say other than Elmo's responses felt odd to me.

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NO YOU SUCK THE MOST, AND YOU SUCKED BEFORE YOU WERE EVEN BORN!

I'll see if I can elaborate why it feels odd. Though it's most likely just my gut getting a read.

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I have my reasons. He's easy to read IMO and I feel he's town here though I was wrong last game we played.

I feel this is him trying to avoid the question. He sounds like he's trying to make it seem like he has reasons, but he really doesn't.

GNR, dafuq are those...things around the objection?

And the mod will totally not know who you're referring to because you forgot a zero. Right.

SCIENCE!

And now back to our regularly-scheduled lynching programme.

Scigatt, why triple-post to fix a post that didn't need fixing?

VOte: Scigatt

Out of order but you get the idea.

This has no elaboration at all, and most of this does not constitue a townread without further information. He makes it sound like we get the idea so that he doesn't have to explain further.

And VM get the early town read.
VOTE: BS2000

Is this vote random Elmo?

You tell me.

Again, this feels like dodging the question. He is implying that BS knows what he's talking about to both put BS under the bus and also to make it so Elmo doesn't have to explain.

Yes and no. I didn't like the quick wagon given scum have daytalk and put 2 quick votes down and claimed lolquickhammer and oh sorry we didn't know. And it was a test to gage his reaction as well

I literally cannot make sense of this post and it just looks like a jumble of words put together to look like something. @Elmo: Can you please clarify this for me?

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I'm going to hold off voting him until I get a response.

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Uhh, any response to my case Elmo?

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He posted after I made my case. Yet he didn't respond.

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Also he didn't acknowledge my case at all.

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As I said, I'd rather wait till I get a response from him about it.

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[quote="In post 70, ScigattI don't like his case on 55 either but I didn't want to mention it. I'll just say that considering the particulars of this game, 55 seems like a scumpost.[/quote]
Why? Also why didn't you mention it?

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Where am I speculating about possible connections? What I said about BK implies I think BK is town.

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That doesn't address my question at all.

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VOTE: Scigatt
Are you being serious?
I ask you a question about the bulk of your case, and you pretend you never said anything like it?

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No, I never say anything about wondering why Elmo thought VM was town in that post. There is no connection speculation at all. And pusing something while someone is V/LA is completely viable.

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Voided, come join this wagon.

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No, I'm not connecting the two at all. I'm commenting on how Elmo's actions about that were scummy, not how VM's were.

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No, I wasn't questioning how he thought VM was town, I was questioning his motives for the actions he made (like not elaborating on anything).

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Why does me being interested in Elmo's town read make me scum anyway?

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^This. Why the vote?

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How I explain things and how Elmo explains things are completely different, especially if I didn't make the post and he did. I want his explanation so I can get answers from him. I can't just assume everything myself or I'll get nowhere.

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So by calling me out for what you think may potentially be Mason fishing, you totally just claimed who you thought could be Masons. Yeah, nice job there. That also must mean it's a Me/VM scumteam, since he was interested too.

Okay then, everytime you ask me a question while I'm asleep/at school I'll make sure to FoS you. You won't get anywhere asking me questions while I'm not here.

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Siggin'

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I'm da man!

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1. Again, there is no scum motivation in asking to explain town reads. You say you think I'm Mason fishing without considering that Elmo could just be read faking.
3. What are you getting at here? I know I'm town and I also know I'm not a Mason. So I can't be sure of it.

What does being V/LA matter anyway? It's just extended leave.

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1. There is absolutely

no

scum motivation in asking for town reads to be explained. You are reaching quite far here.
3. I still don't get what you mean. Are you saying you know VM's role? I'm assuming our roles are the same, because I'm willing to bet he isn't a Mason, and I know I'm not either.

I questioned Elmo's vote too (well personally questioned, instead of asking him as it had already been done). You aren't making any sense.
Why is Voided the only one who could figure out there was no role connection?

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VM knows his own role. I know my own role. Why are you attacking only me and not attacking him too?

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Is that all you have to say?
What about Scigatt and Elmo?

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post

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Soad is town from what I skimmed. I'll have to read up on his discussion with Voided before I can get a proper read on him.

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Yep, Soad is town.

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Why is FoS the scummier action?

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Okay, that makes sense. I agree, if they're your top scumread and you FoS them, then you better have a damn good reason for not voting them.

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Ugh this game is a mess to read

UNVOTE:
VOTE: scigatt

this guy looks scummiest to me

*Sigh*
Are you even going to bother contributing?

We need to get a wagon going on someone. I suggest Scigatt.

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I don't like how he's going after a lurker lynch, but that's the only problem I have.

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Of course it's an adequate reason.

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Why wouldn't it be?

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Ｂｕｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｗｈｏｌｅ　ｐｏｉｎｔ　ｉｓ　ｔｏ　ｇｅｔ　ｒｅａｃｔｉｏｎｓ．

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Doing what?

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The font?
If not, go into more detail.

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So why am I scum?
I mean, you only say the bad stuff I did, but where's the explanation as to why it's bad?
Is exaggerating the case really that bad at that early in the game? What did you think of Elmo's reaction to the case?

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Post 211 - However, Om, I don't think he's calling you scum inasmuch as he finds that suspicious. This exaggeration is noted.

Post 55 - This case focuses on Elmo's early posts. It's exaggerated and the best "scumtell" from it is avoiding the question, which really isn't even accurate based on the posts. Early FOS goes on O2tN.

FOS on O2tN

I originally had O2tN and Shadow as a team, but after ISOing O2tN, he's been townreading SOAD heavily, which I doubt would be a scum-scum interaction. No way they buddy that hard d1. I'm thinking O2tN and BS2000 now.

I'm the only person who is consistently scum across all his team guesses.
Are you sure you can't reach farther than that?
VOTE: Voidedmafia

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Post 211 - No thoughts on any of Quinter's other reads? Also you realize you're asking quinter what he thinks of his own slots previous actions... that's a pretty loaded question don't you think?

Quinter's other reads were alright except for the Scigatt townread. His thoughts on who was suspicious was the same as mine (except his suspcions of me obv).
Asking him what he though of Elmo's play is not a loaded question at all. You can call your predecessor scummy, townie, a bad player, anything you want. How is it a loaded question?

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I was the first person he had suspicions of. I think he thinks I'm scummy.

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I've voted weirdly to get reactions before as town. I see no problem with it.

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How?
It ain't suspicious if you have a good reason to not be voting your top scumread.

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What gave you the impression of him not caring at that time? Plus, why is it bad for that point of the game?

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Obviously I would vote Scigatt.

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Define shitty.

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Probably not, I'd have to have an epiphany to change my mind.

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VOTE: Scigatt
We really need a lynch. Deadline is coming up fast.

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Mala is hilariously wrong and she's so wrong that if she hadn't claimed Mason I would be voting her right now. You don't have my meta right at all, it mainly depends on how I started the game. Plus fluff is null for me, as I like to do it as town too.

The jump on the Scigatt wagon is also a null point. I had been calling Scigatt scum all game, I just had other targets to pursue along with him. Also it was nearing deadline and we needed a lynch.

I completely forgot that GNR was even in the game. Everytime this happens, he always ends up scum.
VOTE: GNR

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GNR lurks really hard when he's scum. He's doing it now.

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He's barely posted this whole game, and the game has gone for a decent length of time. He can't have been V/LA for the whole game otherwise he would have been replaced by now.

What I'm saying is, he barely posted when he had the opportunity to.

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391 and OvTvS.

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I swear if someone else fucking votes me now I am going to be really fucking pissed.

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:P
No-one ever listens to me anymore. It really pisses me off.

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NO MORE GAME RELATED POSTS FROM ME.
DON'T WANT TO MAKE SHIT TOO OBVIOUS NOW.
LOLOLOLOLO
I AM A POTATO
AHAHAHAHAH
MIGHT AS WELL HAVE SOME FUN WHILE I DIE.
TEE HEE
LOLOL
POTATOES ARE COOL

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Actually I'll be nice and give you guys a hint.
The last scum was on my wagon :V
Oh wait, logical thinking will produce the same conclusion.

Oh well.

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Oh man, I totally feel like a bastard now.

IT FEELS AWESOME

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I specifically told Quinter to kill Mala.
I don't know why he chose SOAD instead.

Anyway, I started great but ended poorly, but overall it wasn't too bad a game for me.

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if we keep calling Om town he'll get NKed if he's really town, drawing the kill away from us. And if he doesn't die then he's prob scum.

This isn't really good logic. There could be many more reasons scum would kill someone, not just people calling them town.

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I don't really see that as particularly likely though.

Also, his partner was idiotic enough to actually make Om's last statement true (that scum was on his wagon). Perhaps they feared SoaD more than Quinter (assuming Quinter isn't scum), but still.

Considering the only two unconfirmed people in the game at the time were on my wagon, I don't think that statement even mattered.

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Yeah, that's exactly why I was not afraid to bus Elmo in the early game.

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I couldn't though, he replaced out after giving me basically nothing to work with.