Open 411: The game of C9++! (Game over: Town Win!)

[Nobody Special]

Vote: AAlldduusskkeell

for hopping on the bandwagon this early.

[Nobody Special]

Vote: Alduskkel

@Mod: You left me off the votecount entirely

Why not? You're Nobody Special after all!

... *crickets*

Oh, stuff it, you're in the VC now.

[Nobody Special]

Hi:

On V/LA through Monday.

I may have some access, but not a whole lot. Have a good weekend!

[Nobody Special]

I am back from V/LA. But I am also exhausted. More tomorrow.

[Nobody Special]

I am back from V/LA. But I am also exhausted. More tomorrow.

How does one, in the space of a couple days,

forget

they are in a game?

Anyway, here now, reading. Thoughts in a bit.

[Nobody Special]

First, very glad that both Chimera and Chrimi were replaced. I was sure to have mixed them up at some point.

Elmo, stop being useless and give some reasoning for your opinions. All your posts except the last two have been either theory or non-game-related.

kondi also needs to be more useful.

I have to say. I joined this game solely because I found ac1983's attempt at scumtell computation interesting.

I am very dissappointed by ac's 'mathematical' method. >.>

These two posts are in direct contradiction to one another. How could you have known about this mathematical process without having read it? And why are you disappointed after reading it? (This is not to say I'm a fan of the mathematical model, though. I largely agree with Panzer, it's useless at best.)

[Nobody Special]

We need to go after Venmar D2.
VOTE: ac1983

I'll just note that lining up lynches (especially without a flip) is quite scummy.

[Nobody Special]

Vote: AAlldduusskkeell

for hopping on the bandwagon this early.

The Careful Reader will note that this is a perfectly cromulent reason, and not Random at all.

[Nobody Special]

...Ald's town, too.

Damn.

Aside from his vote on Venmar not being scummy, why else is he town?

[Nobody Special]

Sorry, it's been a busy week. And my sleep schedule is all borked. I'll try to get to this today.... or tomorrow.

But Alduskkel still needs to hang.

[Nobody Special]

Dammit, Ald, why'd you have to go and be so townie?

Now I have to actually stop tunneling and scumhunt.

Bastard.

[Nobody Special]

Umm.

unvote

Oops.

[Nobody Special]

If he claims something like Doctor with the deadline in a few hours, then what?

We have almost TWO FULL DAYS till deadline. Why are you so insistent on fearmongering?

Vote: absta

[Nobody Special]

It's not a claim! I just pointed out that JKs can protect also so why assume doc.

OMGUS is definently a scum tell.

I've only seen town OMGUS and I know i'm town. Convince me that this 'tell' is actually worth something.

How about YOU convince US that you're not scum?

[Nobody Special]

I'll be around near deadline. Willing to switch to MMind to avoid a NL, but I really think absta is so much scummier.

[Nobody Special]

oh fuck. why is my vote still there? i thought i changed it.

anyway, are we really considering a doc claim lynch? this makes me not happy.

And yet you don't unvote. Folks, take note of this tomorrow (if I'm not here).

Hey, vijay: Vote absta. For Great Justice.

[Nobody Special]

Then why post about it in the first place, if you're not going to do anything about it?

[Nobody Special]

Oh, this started. Okay, I need to catch up.

[Nobody Special]

Why?

[Nobody Special]

Consider it a failure, then.

Vote: absta

[Nobody Special]

The best part of this setup is the setup speculation.

That being said, the

worst

part of this setup is ...the setup speculation.

It's such a tiny percentage of possibility, there being two doctors, that I feel it's hardly worth considering seriously.

My vote stands. He's slipped, he's flailing, kill it with fire.

[Nobody Special]

Those of you not voting absta -- can you tell me, please, why he isn't scummy?

[Nobody Special]

Please, enlighten me how you "know" that he "honestly" thought that?

[Nobody Special]

Trust no one.

[Nobody Special]

Trust no one.

You don't believe Venmar's claim then?

Not until he flips.

[Nobody Special]

There are no words.

I just read kondi's iso. Dude.

However, if kondi's scum, he's either heavily bussing absta, or I'm totally wrong about absta. (I've been wrong before. It can happen!)

unvote

Vote: kondi

[Nobody Special]

I might explain in my long-awaited catch-up post.

My vote stands.

Can we just lynch this already?

[Nobody Special]

I need to re-read and look into vijay. This damned game.

[Nobody Special]

chamber: You've been pushing for a CFRiot lynch, but from a quick glance at your iso, you've not provided any reasoning. Please fix this (or point out what I may have missed).

[Nobody Special]

So, here's my logic: At least one scum has to be on the wagon already. If two are, then I'm safe with this vote. IF there are three scum, the third can hammer and we'll lynch them tomorrow.

If OGML is scum and being bussed, we can look at the wagon and interactions tomorrow, and also the hammerer, too. If he's town, all we have is VCA (but that's valuable, too).

Vote: OhGodMyLife

P-Edit: Well, I was comfortable putting him at L-1, but L-2 works (almost) just as well.

[Nobody Special]

unvote

Yes. This shifts things a bit.

[Nobody Special]

That one seems rather artificial. Even mocking. >.>

Deliberately vague.

It's not "deliberately vague," it's commenting on the current topic. The previous posts were you (twice) calling Panzer out for what is arguably a very bad post, chamber unvoting (twice, including format correction), and me unvoting.

How is that vague in any way, shape or form? Go on, I'm listening.

[Nobody Special]

Find the energy and motivation to read back some. (Wish me luck.)

[Nobody Special]

OGML is at best anti-town, and at worst, terrible scum. I'm thinking the latter.

Vote: OGML

[Nobody Special]

Right. You don't discuss on a No Lynch day, you just do it.

Vote: No Lynch

[Nobody Special]

Piffle. I will not back off of you.




So, most of my case on absta is in posts 211, 418, and this nugget at 617-18.

Vote: Absta

[Nobody Special]

Well, I get that most people would like me to claim, but I'll wait to be officially popcorned to do so.

[Nobody Special]

I am a 1-shot Doctor. Night One I protected Panzer. (I used my 1-shot N1 because I'm generally either lynched or NKed early, so I figured, don't waste it.)

[Nobody Special]

unvote

I fail to see, after all the VT claims, how CF Riot claiming VT automagically makes me "confirmed scum." Help me out with this one?

The way I see it, we're at DDTTTTx since there's obviously not a Serial Killer, giving us 3 scum (and thus, LyLo).

This leaves three possibilities:

1) a 1-shot Cop who is lying

2) a Town Roleblocker who is lying

3) a 1-shot Vig who is lying

Of these three possibilities, the 1-shot lying Vig is the most plausible. Now, since there's obviously a scum Roleblocker, the 1-shot Vig could've been blocked (or, less likely, they haven't taken a shot yet and were embarrassed to say so).


I'm thinking the scumteam of absta, ac, and Aldd is nicely alliterative.

P-Edit:

I protected Panzer as he seemed the most controversial, yet I thought he was kinda town (I never said I was god at this game, you know).

The reason for my wording in post 684 was that I always knew there had to be two Doctors (me and a full Doc), but the chance of there being DDDD (=two Docs AND a 1-shot) was ridiculously low. I was trying not to out myself.

I've been solidly on the side of absta-scum all game, check my iso.

[Nobody Special]

I covered the lying part in my post.

And I don't believe anyone's claim until they flip. It's not like my Role PM says "You're a 1-shot Doctor, and xxx is a full Doctor." I mean, really, now.

[Nobody Special]

I don't know. It's anti-town, at best, and at worst, quite scummy.

Kinda like you, and absta, and ac, all claiming VT even though you're scum.

[Nobody Special]

I'm obviously not lying. But you'd be wrong to vote me.

Can you tell me how I'm scummier than absta?

[Nobody Special]

Can you tell me how I'm scummier than absta?

[Nobody Special]

No, I really don't.

[Nobody Special]

[Nobody Special]

I am not confused as to why you think I'm "caught scum" -- what I'm confused about is who's lying (and more importantly,

why

).

The power role, whoever you are, needs to come clean now, or we lose. It's that simple. We're going to find out who you are anyway.

[Nobody Special]

I covered that in my post 1122.

[Nobody Special]

I seem to have been hammered.

Yep, totally fucked that one up.

We'll talk about it after.

[Nobody Special]

First off, Panzer, I'm sorry (for the miscommunication N1 that lost us a kill).

Secondly, Panzer, I'm sorry. I thought I could force through the 1-Shot Doc thing. But I didn't.

I have no objections to our QT being posted, so I will let Panzer do that if he wishes.

[Nobody Special]

Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/cKY5YaJh6ZD7