Open 411: The game of C9++! (Game over: Town Win!)

[kondi2424]

I was NOT told this started, or that I even had to confirm. I is disappoint.

Reading now.

[kondi2424]

Oh god big posts.

I feel good doing this right now: VOTE: vijay

[kondi2424]

Gut

[kondi2424]

Yes, I do, in this situation.

[kondi2424]

Gut reads are good in early-game.

[kondi2424]

Hmm.

VOTE: vijay

[kondi2424]

Not problems. ICing is a priority.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Elmo

[kondi2424]

Elmo/vijay sounds good right now, solely based on that comment/no good feelings from them.

[kondi2424]

Lol that would get me. Sidenote, why don't you take scumdex of towndex to get overall read? Ie if positive, leaning town, if negative leaning scum. By the way that's an awesome way of scumhunting. I'm going to do it from now on. Nulldex isn't very useful though.

Kondi, you've played a fair amount of games with me. You pulling 158 is terrible. You know how I react to buddies. Kondi isn't town anymore. Null atm. You should know better than that.

P.edit:

Oh hey Voided is NS on V/LA still?

Since you're conscious of how you treat buddies, you can easily treat them otherwise. Either way, the statement was pretty bad.

[kondi2424]

Mostly.

[kondi2424]

It's just when I get into too many games, some become unbearable to read because I did nothing in them early-game. This is probably my worst case >.<

[kondi2424]

Ald, I'm going to vote you due to unneeded repeated information in your last post. VOTE: Ald

PEdit: Directed at the post above that one.

[kondi2424]

And I'm starting to think Venmar is just naturally cautious.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Ald

[kondi2424]

Ald, I'm going to vote you due to unneeded repeated information in your last post. VOTE: Ald

PEdit: Directed at the post above that one.

[kondi2424]

All others have been voting him for a long time, besides Psyche, who said it was a deadline compromise.

Absta can be lynched soon.

[kondi2424]

The point stands.

[kondi2424]

You know what I think?

VOTE: absta. I'll vote pretty much anyone at deadline, but I would prefer absta first, then NS, then Ald.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: absta

You know what I think?

VOTE: absta. I'll vote pretty much anyone at deadline, but I would prefer absta first, then NS, then Ald.

I assumed this was at the beginning of a line.

They must be on a separate line from ANY text, either before or after it.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: NS

I guess I can do this if no one wants to vote absta.

[kondi2424]

What about NS?

[kondi2424]

Fine.

VOTE: mastermind

[kondi2424]

VOTE: absta counterwagon gogo

[kondi2424]

Completely serious, let's do this

[kondi2424]

VOTE: absta

counterwagon gogo

[kondi2424]

Venmar you should take the advice ^_^

[kondi2424]

Oh look mm is a Doc and is bound to be telling the truth. Let's not vote him.

[kondi2424]

V/LA until Saturday

[kondi2424]

Fuck that, CF's post feels set up specifically to make Ald the only option.

[kondi2424]

So one scum in Venmar and absta. VOTE: absta

[kondi2424]

VOTE: absta

[kondi2424]

Hey absta you're ignoring the fact that I already gave reasons. You're also equating lurking to scumminess, and your reaction to Venmar's claim sucked balls.

Hey guys we should keep lynching absta

By the way Venmar, the claim was good in this situation, but don't do it again.

[kondi2424]

By getting you lynched.

[kondi2424]

and who are you

[kondi2424]

but WHY VIJAY FIRST

[kondi2424]

but WHY VIJAY FIRST

Why not?

Because absta is much more obviously scum.

[kondi2424]

So we lynch vijay then absta?

[kondi2424]

But if nothing points against it... we lynch absta?

[kondi2424]

also absta your adhom hurts me on the inside

[kondi2424]

I'd really like to 1v1 with absta right now. Every single time I come into this thread and read one of absta's new posts, I find something scummy about it, but then forget what it was the next time, and I'm too tired to dig through his posts and find them all right now.

[kondi2424]

The benefit is that I feel really confident (and with the amount of effort I've put into this game, that means something) in you being scum, and if I'm wrong, I don't have to be an eventual LyLo mislynch down the road.

And it's around 6 PM here, but I pulled an all-nighter yesterday.

[kondi2424]

chamber, you should vote absta.

[kondi2424]

Hi!

[kondi2424]

There's an explanation somewhere in that ISO.

Also, while you were at it, why didn't you take the time to call NS out again?

[kondi2424]

You should explain.

[kondi2424]

So yeah chamber is town

[kondi2424]

BULLY ALERT

Would you like me to address anything specifically, Psyche?

[kondi2424]

I might explain in my long-awaited catch-up post.

[kondi2424]

1. absta
2. NS
3. Er... I guess vijay? I'll get back to that.

[kondi2424]

Okay, I don't see any other lynch but Vijay happening at this point. I'm not extremely happy but he is one of my scum reads.
VOTE: Vijay
Let's end the day here.

9 days left. lolol

[kondi2424]

Kondi, get me my Riot lynch today and I'll help you with absta tomorrow.

I'll agree to these terms, but only because CF actually does have a chance of flipping scum. VOTE: CF

[kondi2424]

It's gut by obv-town chamber who is promising me what I want.

This is a good lynch.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: CF

[kondi2424]

Kondi explain your town read

Bad idea.

[kondi2424]

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-07-14 17:04:30)

[kondi2424]

This is retarded.

[kondi2424]

I was talking about the lynch in general. It could also be extended to the game itself.

[kondi2424]

If they look fake, you should know they're real.

Self-meta completely intentional, apathy is a towntell for me. I never just go "fuck it" as scum.

[kondi2424]

Oh no problem man

[kondi2424]

Back from V/LA

VOTE: OGML

[kondi2424]

I'm guessing you would like me to contribute my thoughts sometime before the end of the game day?

I'm not doing it right now. I will soon. This game is on the top of my priority list.

[kondi2424]

Reasoning for voting OGML should be incredibly obvious.

[kondi2424]

I'm really over this game. Have fun with an endgame that has kondi and ns in it.

Unvote, Vote: OhGodMyLife

[kondi2424]

AtE.

The scum intent is not what I'm voting him for, though. He's going to be detrimental to the town until/unless he gets replaced/dies.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: No Lynch

[kondi2424]

Or tonight?

[kondi2424]

Ald is scum.
You might as well use

today

to find his partners.

Or tonight?

[kondi2424]

No Lynch is the correct choice. That should be clear to everyone.

[kondi2424]

VC is accounting for chamber still being alive.

Alright, time to go hardcore. I'm gonna shred this up now that it's in LyLo.

[kondi2424]

I almost did that to you.

[kondi2424]

Gladly. But lets fucking not vote at the beginning of the LyLo.

[kondi2424]

Okay, I'm pretty sure Panzer is town.

Massclaiming is still a go. Popcorn, I'll go first.

VT. Absta, go.

[kondi2424]

Ald, serious question. Who do you think are my Top 3 suspects?

[kondi2424]

That was a really good guess. I was just curious as to what you'd answer besides absta, as I've already said he's suspicious. They're the three that I've had any continuous suspicion on.

It also means Ald is likely town.

[kondi2424]

(absta you should pick NS)

[kondi2424]

I think he would have a certain group picked out to trick me into. I've admittedly been useless, and I'd think Ald would have someone ready for him to convince me into. So basically, he actually suspects I know his scumteam, or he's town.

I also feel like CF is pretty likely scum. Chamber had three suspects: OGML (flipped town), Panzer (a townread), and CF. They killed him for a reason.

[kondi2424]

So I'm pretty sure I've got my rough draft of who's what alignment ready, but there's still two I'm unsure of.

[kondi2424]

For post #1047, talking about the reason for massclaiming being to find the number of scum. He's skeptic about the amount of scum, and it's genuine.

[kondi2424]

*facepalm*

Panzer lost his towncred. Two scum

is

possible.

[kondi2424]

I subconsciously treated this like a Mini, which almost always has three scum. Panzer would get towncred in that scenario because, since Minis almost always have three scum, if he were scum, he would be questioning that knowing full well that there were three scum.

[kondi2424]

lolwut

You literally named everyone but my suspects.

How the hell is NS not in that list?

[kondi2424]

And then ac and Ald are just there?

Is that list in any particular order?

[kondi2424]

Nope.

VOTE: absta

Until you answer all the questions on this page, this vote isn't coming off.

[kondi2424]

Crap UNVOTE:

[kondi2424]

UNVOTE:

[kondi2424]

NS is incredibly obvious scum for this:

Piffle. I will not back off of you.




So, most of my case on absta is in posts 211, 418, and this nugget at 617-18.

Vote: Absta

And this makes A Panzer/ac team incredibly likely.

Also AC Should claim

[kondi2424]

Simple. NS was preparing for someone to hammer, which means he's scum. You basically ignored that and kept attacking absta, but then you asked for ac to claim. At the very least, it incriminates you for ignoring NS.

VOTE: NS

[kondi2424]

Why? Panzer is only scum via association with NS.

[kondi2424]

So who do you think is town?

[kondi2424]

@CF: What don't you understand?

[kondi2424]

Going to say this right now: If anyone feels like voting Ald today, they should vote me instead. If Ald is in a 1v1 with anyone, I'm voting the other person. That means, if you think I'm town, and you're town, voting Ald costs you the game.

[kondi2424]

In that case, the hypothetical SK should claim. If we mislynch NS based on thinking there's no SK, both the town and the SK lose.

[kondi2424]

In that case, the hypothetical SK should claim. If we mislynch NS based on thinking there's no SK, both the town and the SK lose.

why would the SK claim here? He hasn't been making kills, and a SK means there are only 2 scum. So he lets us mislynch NS today shoot a 40% shoot at scum tonight, wake up tomorrow with 4 peope and hopefully a scum dead. Then it's he lynchs someone and hopes he doesn't get crosskilled or just wins. No chance an SK claims here.

Well thanks for ruining that. What was the point of making that clear when we could have had an outed SK?

[kondi2424]

I wouldn't want the SK

lynched

, just outed.

[kondi2424]

Nope

[kondi2424]

So absta is obvious town now.

If I die tonight, never lynch Ald or absta. My picks for the other two scum right now are Panzer and ac.

[kondi2424]

Most likely.

Also, I feel successful for turning Ald from a general scumread to a general townread.

[kondi2424]

First of all, I'm a guy. Read the gender section.

Second, how the hell does my play yesterday implicate that I'm his buddy?

[kondi2424]

This is what I said regarding NS's claim:

In that case, the hypothetical SK should claim. If we mislynch NS based on thinking there's no SK, both the town and the SK lose.

This doesn't imply that I believed NS. Neither does the fact that I was voting him before that post with the belief that we were in LyLo. I was only doing that to be on the safe side.

I know where my thoughts lie in this situation, and I have two prime suspects. I will say that absta is obvious town and not one of them.

[kondi2424]

I think we should just go ahead and lynch Panzer, since we inevitably will, and think about the kondi-CF-ac LyLo if it happens.

Do you have any objections/last words, absta?

[kondi2424]

I think we should just go ahead and lynch Panzer, since we inevitably will, and think about the kondi-CF-ac LyLo if it happens.

Do you have any objections/last words, absta?

This is ridiculous scum. Can we lynch Kondi yet? jesus christ.

This is ridiculous scum. Can we lynch Panzer yet? jesus christ.

[kondi2424]

Two scum, absta. Two scum.

[kondi2424]

What?

Absta, there are only two scum. Panzer and I can not possibly be bussing.

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Panzer

[kondi2424]

@absta: I've come to the conclusion you're bad town, so hwow about you stay on the good town bandwagon and lynch Panzerscum. It's pretty obv at this point mang.

[kondi2424]

Questionable play, Ald? I just tried something new, added to the fact that I had low activity. I decided to scumhunt at LyLo (which, since I thought we were in LyLo on that day, should have shown me as town when it was revealed there were two scum). I actually think it worked wonderfully, as I latched onto the scum easily because they weren't trying to hide from me.

I liked the game.

[kondi2424]

As always.

[kondi2424]

I figured the lurking would keep me alive and have the scum not trying to hide from me.

[kondi2424]

I also love how everyone made fun of me in the Dead QT.

OGML, I find it ironic that you don't want to play with me again.

[kondi2424]

Actually, I did play. Have you read anything past your death?