Open 429: True Love (Game Over)

Om of the Nom · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:28 pm

Everyone out their lovers.
I'm with citysnake.
VOTE: Venmar
For not outing his lover.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:08 pm

Because if we're going to lynch someone, we need to know who else we're lynching with them. This is basically the main reason behind it.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:12 pm

We can also use it to judge interactions between the pair.

I am lovers with citysnake still.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #11 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:13 pm

Plus, why not claim lovers when the scum would already know two pairings?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #13 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:25 pm

No, you don't get my point.
Scum know two pairings.
Town knows none (or one if you count my claim).
Scum already have an advantage here, and that's not even counting the fact that they know who they are.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #15 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:40 pm

Eh fine, I'll wait for others to weigh in :P

Om of the Nom · Post Post #17 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:01 pm

Yes and reasonably well.
My last game with this, we ended up deciding both parts of a lover pair were scummy, and we lynched that pair, the one we didn't vote for ended up flipping scum.
However we still lost, as the last scum made me waffle a lot on my reads and ended up causing me to vote for my partner despite a correct gut read on the last scum.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #19 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:05 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=21359

Om of the Nom · Post Post #23 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:21 pm

No, the pairings were assesed on scumminess because of the players in them.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #29 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:10 am

VOTE: Bitmap

Om of the Nom · Post Post #34 (isolation #10) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:26 am

In post 27, Venmar wrote:The pairing of scum is identical to the pairing of town. They will act as such to the best of their abilities, and since they will have the same survival instinct to their partner as any town lover would have to their lover, the tells in this area don't seem as strong.

PEDIT: Hooray, I'm right! Call it gut if you want~ ;)

Om of the Nom · Post Post #44 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:15 am

My partner is town, though I may have a potential gut read of scum on them.

Also Tech, you're implying that because one half of a pair is conftown, the other one is town. This isn't how it works.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #46 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:26 am

In post 34, Om of the Nom wrote:Call it gut if you want~ ;)

Om of the Nom · Post Post #48 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:31 am

No completed games that I know of, and also no I don't since in my only game with him, his playstyle was heavily influenced by me.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #50 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:01 am

Keep posting Bitmap.

It only makes you look worse in my eyes.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #52 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:16 am

The reason I voted incorrectly was because I voted off logic.
I stated in post game that my gut read was on the last scum.
Nice try at trying to misrep me though.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #55 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:33 am

Nice OMGUS. It was a little hard to recognize with all the fake reasons sprinkled over it.
Also it's nice to see you still misrepping me. I've already stopped pushing to get everyone to massclaim their partners. Why am I forcing it? Also I already explained I voted incorrectly last game due to using logic, not gut. Voting by my gut then would have won the game.

The best part is how you make it sound like my plan is the only plan there is. Sorry to say, but it's not.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #57 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:36 am

Venmar is town btw. Super townie obvtown. Regardless of the townslip. He's thinking like me, and in this case that's a towntell.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #58 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:39 am

TAM needs to actually do some scumhunting.
All he's talked about is the setup.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #60 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:43 am

You're underestimating my gut, I've caught numerous scum in LYLO with my gut alone, I have at least 5 games to back that up.

I never said I had my own alternative plan. Haven't you been reading the thread, it's clearly been mentioned.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #62 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:46 am

In post 61, Venmar wrote:Just because Town hasn't really won a game yet doesn't mean we can't win this time, don't be discouraging.

I agree with this. All Bitmap has done so far is basically argue that we're going to lose because we're doing the same things that made town lose the game previously, yet he's done nothing to try and change that.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #64 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:49 am

I don't need to think of one when another has already been presented. I still have yet to see you reacknowledge the plan I'm talking about. It's nice to see you trying to generalize it too, since obviously you can't remember what it was.

My gut would have won me this game had I voted off it and only it. My use of logic interferred with my voting decisions and caused me to vote badly and therefore lose the game. It's nice to see you still trying to misrep me by saying I lost the game because of my gut, yet I've already stated multiple times I lost it due to logic.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #67 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:53 am

That's not a plan at all, that's called a part of common sense that everyone always seems to fail.
Try again.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #69 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:57 am

Was that first sentence even needed? You're stating the obvious here.

Nope, not the right plan. Outing lovers was my plan, see if you can find the other~<3

Om of the Nom · Post Post #71 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:00 am

Hooray! You found it! *gives Bitmap a cookie*

I still have yet to see you prove why gut is flawed. THe best you can come up with is that town lost the last time this setup was run due to me not voting off my gut. Which, you know, proves gut is better.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #74 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:03 am

Your method, obviously.
It seemed to me like you were more concerned with proving my method is bad, instead of why your method is better.

PEDIT: lol

Om of the Nom · Post Post #77 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:06 am

No I didn't. I clearly said I voted him because I had been suspicious of his actions all game. The correct gut read was one that came out of nowhere and therefore is really a "true" gut read.

Why all the emphasis on the fact town lost four times in a row? Shouldn't you be trying to change that, instead of trying to repeat it?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #79 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:07 am

Oh Junpei.
You make me lol.
I'll explain in due time. Take a look at Bitmap's posts and tell me what you see.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #81 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:17 am

Aren't you overreacting?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #82 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:23 am

Frankly, if you want me to play serious, just wait till after school today. Because right now I'm so fucking tired and it's affecting my mood drastically.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #97 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:36 pm

In post 87, The Acting Method wrote:Speaking of which... Om, could you clarify 34 for me, are you agreeing with the quoted post?

That was me quoting the part of Venmar's post that was bad, as someone had raised the point earlier and he wasn't sure exactly what they were talking about.

Anyway, TAM is town, Ven is still town, Tech is town, Junpei is probably town due to gut. I'm super duper obvtown and confirmed town to myself, which leaves citysnake, Bitmap and PMyst.
Bitmap is scum based on the argument I had with him, as that gave me super duper huge gut scum reads.
citysnake is probably scum because I get more scum gut vibes from his posts. Can't pinpoint exactly why though.
PMyst could be scum because his first post was useless filler, but I'm not putting too much money into this.

Going for a Bitmap/citysnake scumteam here.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #98 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:38 pm

I'm willing to vote city if you guys follow my other reads to some extent if city flips scum.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #100 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:18 pm

Who said I'm not pressuring the non-active players?
Also it's nice to see you instantly discrediting my reads. Good job at being scum, it's so obvious.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #103 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:33 pm

Fine, I'll be nice and give you guys more to go off on.
I've already made mention of some of my reasons for thinking Bitmap is scum, but in case you didn't notice it, I've been reading some of his posts like he's trying to fake-towniness. The numerous posts where you tell us to use the deadline to it's full extent are great examples of this.
I think my citysnake read has to do with the lack of anything in his posts. He's posted barely anything in the game, and all the scumhunting he's done is in our QT (and it's barely even scumhunting, as it's all focused on partners and pairings).

Om of the Nom · Post Post #128 (isolation #34) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:31 pm

My votes are wrong on both the votecounts :P
I'm voting Bitmap right now.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #129 (isolation #35) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:32 pm

@TAM: You are town because you are :D

Om of the Nom · Post Post #130 (isolation #36) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:37 pm

However, I just had a revelation and now I'm reading Bitmap as town :P
VOTE: citysnake
Considering I only had three scumreads, it's obvious who I'm betting is the partner (PMyst).

Om of the Nom · Post Post #132 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:50 pm

Idk, I think my gut may have been acting up :P

Om of the Nom · Post Post #134 (isolation #38) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:59 pm

Guys, I just remembered I played in another iteration of this setup.
As town.
Lover claims within the early game.
Scum lynched both days.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22111
I think the wiki needs to be updated :P

PEDIT: PMyst is doing jack shit and is continuing to do jack shit even once called out.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #137 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:10 pm

Also please tell me I'm not the only one who finds it hilarious that citysnake is basing scumteams off connections when there hasn't even been a flip yet?
PEDIT: :/
UNVOTE:
VOTE: citysnake
Is that better?

Yes

Om of the Nom · Post Post #139 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:12 pm

Yeah, but that means he could be possibly leading onto a Venmar lynch if my lynch doesn't seem possible.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #141 (isolation #41) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:56 am

Yeah, lynch me and citysnake today, and PM goes tomorrow.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #143 (isolation #42) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:58 am

Yep.
But a town read on me doesn't matter now anyway, as I'm dying today no matter what. I will not settle for a lynch on someone that isn't me or citysnake today.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #145 (isolation #43) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:23 am

It doesn't matter if it's WIFOM or not. One of us is scum and we need to die today.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #156 (isolation #44) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:55 pm

Why am I not dead yet?
Sometimes you people dissapoint me :P

just kiddan i love you all <3

Om of the Nom · Post Post #160 (isolation #45) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:18 pm

Isn't PM now at L-1?
Should we get a lover claim?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #163 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:22 pm

If we ask for a lover claim now, we can start making decisions based on the claim when he next posts instead of asking him after where we might have to wait much longer for him to claim.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #167 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:25 pm

Okay then.
We don't really need much out of PM, I don't think we'll get anywhere by asking him things.
Lynch PM today, me/city tomorrow.
Permission to hammer?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #168 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:29 pm

PM/citysnake team makes complete sense, as both have avoided giving any solid reads on eachother, and there has been almost no mention of each other in their posts.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #171 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:34 pm

Because I want to end this day to get a scumflip.
I'm getting bored of just sitting around, waiting for content that will never come.
Has PM even said anything in your QT?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #176 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:41 pm

Actually Venmar, you're missing a " too.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #181 (isolation #51) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:59 pm

Lol.
Both parts of a lover pair are scum.
Everyone else is town.
Except one null read.

Yep, great town play right there.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #182 (isolation #52) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:01 pm

VOTE: PMysterious
I'm completely ready to end this day.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #183 (isolation #53) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:06 pm

PMyst, you're still online.
Do you have any last words before the mod comes and does the death scene?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #184 (isolation #54) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:09 pm

Oh wait, I forgot to unvote first.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: PMysterious

Does anyone else have any thing they want to say before the lynch?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #186 (isolation #55) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:13 pm

Lynch refers to lynch scene, if you didn't already know :P

Om of the Nom · Post Post #188 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:14 pm

You just need to play a few more games with me :3

Om of the Nom · Post Post #190 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:18 pm

I live life in the fast lane :V

Om of the Nom · Post Post #192 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:25 pm

Way to ruin to gambit :P

Hey, I did it then because I will likely get so caught up in other stuff tonight I wont get around to it. I have a new game starting + I need to clean and rearrange kitchen. :p

Om of the Nom · Post Post #194 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:32 pm

My whole intention was to see if I could get PM to claim his role before he "died," to see if I could get a confirmed read on him.

But oh well, at least I caught another scum.

I must say, that was an interesting reaction to the "hammer" by someone who was supposedly so gung-ho about having everyone use the full day.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bitmap

Om of the Nom · Post Post #196 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:38 pm

I decided to play off your revote of PMyst :3
Thanks for setting me up for it :D

Om of the Nom · Post Post #206 (isolation #61) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:57 pm

Nice to see Bitmap is trying to frame my vote as OMGUS. The best part is he didn't even vote me or voice large suspicion of my actions right before I voted him.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #208 (isolation #62) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:13 pm

In post 185, Bitmap wrote:
In post 184, Om of the Nom wrote:Oh wait, I forgot to unvote first.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: PMysterious

Does anyone else have any thing they want to say
before the lynch?

>Before the lynch
>Lynch already happens

Lol.

In post 193, Bitmap wrote:Nice fishing attempt, Om. :S

In post 194, Om of the Nom wrote:My whole intention was to see if I could get PM to claim his role before he "died," to see if I could get a confirmed read on him.

But oh well, at least I caught another scum.

I must say, that was an interesting reaction to the "hammer" by someone who was supposedly so gung-ho about having everyone use the full day.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bitmap

How does this imply OMGUS, especially considering you just said you agreed with my gambit?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #210 (isolation #63) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:18 pm

No, answer my question first.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #212 (isolation #64) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:21 pm

My question:

In post 208, Om of the Nom wrote:
How does this imply OMGUS, especially considering you just said you agreed with my gambit?

Your answer:

In post 209, Bitmap wrote:blah blah blah deflecting so I don't have to answer the question

Om of the Nom · Post Post #214 (isolation #65) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:26 pm

citysnake's last post gave me a very strong gut town read.
I'm changing my guess to PMyst/Bitmap scumteam.

PEDIT: You imply I'm OMGUSing you with no real evidence to support it. Maybe I should call you out on OMGUS too.
I like how you try to twist my reasons too. I never stated that your reaction had changed my gut read, I only stated how it was an interesting one considering your behaviour earlier on.

I hadn't been giving much evidence or reason for a lot of my votes earlier in the game, so why are you attacking me now instead of earlier?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #215 (isolation #66) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:27 pm

See look at this; OMGUS implies someone voting for someone because the person they voted for had called them suspicious or voted them.
Where do my actions imply that? Your actions say it louder than mine.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #218 (isolation #67) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:45 pm

In post 216, Bitmap wrote:
In post 214, Om of the Nom wrote:citysnake's last post gave me a very strong gut town read.
I'm changing my guess to PMyst/Bitmap scumteam.

Just because you think one person is innocent means the other person is guilty? PoE is great and all but what about everyone else? A few posts ago you said I was town due to a so called "revelation." Inconsistent much without much evidence to back it up is what I see here.

Even a gut like mine can be fooled.

In post 214, Om of the Nom wrote:
PEDIT: You imply I'm OMGUSing you with no real evidence to support it. Maybe I should call you out on OMGUS too.
I like how you try to twist my reasons too. I never stated that your reaction had changed my gut read, I only stated how it was an interesting one considering your behaviour earlier on.

Which vote of mine was OMGUS? And yes, you just seem to change votes on a whim. Usually you know, when someone votes for someone, they think that person is scummy.

You never voted me, but my explanation of OMGUS in a later post supports the fact that you only had suspicion on me because I voted you. Which is basically the definition of OMGUS. My votes change on a whim because my scumreads can change on a whim too. Do you have a problem with that? I was like that in the game we hydra'd in, and you know we were town.

In post 214, Om of the Nom wrote:
I hadn't been giving much evidence or reason for a lot of my votes earlier in the game, so why are you attacking me now instead of earlier?

Oh to the contrary, I've been giving you a lot less pressure than you did before. Last time, I even voted for you. Please stay consistent with your arguments.

I am staying consistent with my arguments, why don't you try to do that instead? I noticed you have been giving less pressure than before, but pressure is still pressure. Plus I know you actually voted for me last time too.
What I'm asking, is why didn't you mention anything when I did it all the other times inbetween.

PEDIT: Look in the wiki, the definition clearly states that OMGUS is basically a vote or suspicion of someone because they voted for you, or because they have suspicions of you.
Wait till my next post and I'll explain my reason for my recent vote on you, since you seem so nitpicky about it now.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #219 (isolation #68) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:48 pm

In post 185, Bitmap wrote:
In post 184, Om of the Nom wrote:Oh wait, I forgot to unvote first.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: PMysterious

Does anyone else have any thing they want to say
before the lynch?

>Before the lynch
>Lynch already happens

Lol.

Look here, no comment of dissaproval or dissapointment with the hammer. Earlier in the day he kept going on about how we should ue the full day, yet he doesn't even get slightly annoyed when I decide to "end the day early."
It read to me like he wasn't concerned with the flip at all, like he already knew what alignment the pairing was going to flip.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #220 (isolation #69) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:50 pm

In post 205, PMysterious wrote:I'm not really feeling comfort. Om needs to die.

VOTE: OmoftheNom

Also note that shitty wagon jump by his partner. It clearly shows PM was aware of all the comments about me potentially being scum, and so he tried to take advantage of that and the votes on me while barely giving reasons. I'm still willing to lynch PM instead of Bitmap if you guys don't want another lover claim.

@Bitmap: Is there a particular reason you decided to only attack me for my vote on you and not PMyst's vote on me?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #221 (isolation #70) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:14 pm

Time for a case :D
This one is a case on why Bitmap is scum with PM, and also a few things that point to their individual scumminess.

In post 28, Bitmap wrote:I would request that we use the 2 weeks to our fullest abilities. All the previous games failed due to so little conversation.

Requesting people use all the time in the day. This supports my claim about the odd reaction to the fakehammer. Also I read this as really fake towniness.

In post 59, Bitmap wrote:
In post 55, Om of the Nom wrote:
The best part is how you make it sound like my plan is the only plan there is. Sorry to say, but it's not.

In post 56, Venmar wrote:OmNom has one of the best guts that i have so far encountered, i wouldn't just throw it away.

Honestly, i got a small scum vibe from Bitmap when he felt he needed to repeat himself about using the full day. Don't see why as town it would be such a crucial thing to repeat other than to look townie.

When you play games where a person is L-1 and you have everyone shouting "DON'T LYNCH YET" and you get that random person who just hammers anyways, then you'll understand. Also look at the statistics, town never won a single mafia game. Did you even bother to see why they lost? Because every game ended in less than 12 pages of people using their 'gut' feeling.

Again with the day length talk. This one just isn't as direct.

In post 65, Bitmap wrote:

In post 25, Bitmap wrote:
Listen, we have 2 weeks. Let's use it to it's full extent. Most of the previous games failed because they just random lynched and didn't provide much discussion.

I suggested we take the whole 2 weeks to plan this out instead of diving into a lynch blindly. We use the conventional method that mafiascum was brought upon.

Hey look, more suggestions that we use the whole day.

In post 83, PMysterious wrote:Well, this is interesting. Let's see what we can find.

In post 25, Bitmap wrote:@Om:
I'm a math guy. Using previous games from the wiki as statistics, what was the probability of a town win when everyone claimed their partners? What is the probability that town won at all?

The answer is 0% for both of them.

I think the problem with the last few games is that there was not a lot of discussion and just random lynches thrown around just hoping that a pair would end up holding someone scummy. All of the other games only had 12 pages or less of game talk.

Listen, we have 2 weeks. Let's use it to it's full extent. Most of the previous games failed because they just random lynched and didn't provide much discussion.

If my calculations are right even though I'm a bit rusty in Stats, our chances are around 1/3 to win this as town.

Because imagine it like 2 town pairs and 2 scum pairs. It's

(2 choose 1)/(4 choose 2) which ends up to be 1/3. My work might be off and if anyone knows statistics, feel free to correct me.

Nice use of math. I am good at math myself, but this blows my mind away.

Overall: I agree with Bitmap, we should use these Game Days to the best of our extent. We can't do quick hammers unless we are guaranteed that player is scum. I'll hold my vote for now.

Lol, that's it, sheep the more experienced mafia member. Also note the lack of a vote or any sort of suspicion on anyone.

In post 99, Bitmap wrote:I'm kinda curious around PMyst. His posts are just restating what I came up with and the lack actual reads. As Techno said, we should push for more content and should focus on getting content out of both citysnake and PMyst. As for now, Om said enough and we need to start pressuring the other non-active players. I'll push my vote off him for now.

UNVOTE: Om of the Nom
VOTE: PMysterious

Can we get your reads and you explaining why?

*states he's suspicious of someone for restating things*
*goes and restates something someone else said in his next sentence*
Yep, great logic there. I also notice the weak attack as a bus.

This starts the Bitmap>PMyst saga, where Bitmap focuses the majority of his attention to throwing PMyst under the bus.

In post 107, PMysterious wrote:
In post 104, TeChNoWC wrote:PMyst, who is scum? Post already.

I'm seeing Om as scum. I can't really put my finger on anyone else.

Lol, lack of reads on everyone but me is noted.

In post 119, PMysterious wrote:STOP CALLING ME A FREAKIN' FEMALE!!!!! I am a male.

Fluff, which is very scummy considering this was only his third post (and the others had nothing interesting in them).

In post 121, Bitmap wrote:
In post 116, TeChNoWC wrote:I find it a bit harsh that you are pushing Snake for reads and not PMyst. Why does PMyst get a free ticket? To be honest, City is contributing more.
I had them both as gut and PoE. What are your thoughts on PMyst? What do you think about his first post? Nothing?

Exactly! We need to know more about everyone. If we just tunnel citysnake, we might be missing key elements from PMyst and tunneling skews our vision of one person by making us think they are scummier than they actually are. This happened in a game which is on-going so I won't speak any further about it.

Why should PMyst care to contribute if there's no real pressure on him? We need to use our votes to pressure people at this stage. Right now, he has no fear of getting lynched because all the attention has been going to citysnake. Anyways, we aren't going to lynch anyone this early.

In post 119, PMysterious wrote:STOP CALLING ME A FREAKIN' FEMALE!!!!! I am a male.

Is that all? I already got called a chick so many times already. Anyways, can you give us explanations of your reads and whatnot? You haven't contributed much.

Look, more of Bitmap throwing PMyst under the bus. It looks like he's just trying to get rid of dead weight and earn some town cred in the process.

In post 122, Bitmap wrote:
In post 120, Venmar wrote:
In post 119, PMysterious wrote:STOP CALLING ME A FREAKIN' FEMALE!!!!! I am a male.

- I blame JigglyPuff.
Also, why is this the only thing you have to say when me and Techno have asked you questions?

^

Parroting. Also funny considering the attack on PM for parroting earlier in the game.

In post 126, Bitmap wrote:No problem, and sorry if I wasn't supposed to. I just wanted everyone to keep note so we don't have any accidental hammers.

And I want to hear more from PMyst before giving a big list of reads on everyone.

More throwing PMyst under the bus.

In post 135, Bitmap wrote:
In post 134, Om of the Nom wrote:Guys, I just remembered I played in another iteration of this setup.
As town.
Lover claims within the early game.
Scum lynched both days.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22111
I think the wiki needs to be updated :P

PEDIT: PMyst is doing jack shit and is continuing to do jack shit even once called out.

Also, I do agree, PMyst hasn't been doing much and that last comment of his doesn't go well with me since it had no substance.

Hey look, more parroting plus another weak attack with barely any evidence (this part is important considering his "OMGUS" attack on me).

In post 144, Bitmap wrote:Anyways, we aren't lynching anyone until we hear more from PMyst.

More throwing PMyst under the bus. I should probably make an acronym for this now. "OBOPM," "Obvious bussing of PMyst."

In post 157, Bitmap wrote:We're just waiting on PMyst to answer. Then we'll start the lynching.

OBOPM

In post 159, Bitmap wrote:
Also, I've been ISOing your posts. Why so much hate on citysnake? At this stage, we are just trying to get more people to post so we have better reads on people. Why have you been so defensive over PMyst lately? You haven't placed any pressure on PMyst at all and seem to be trying to get people to focus on citysnake instead. At least citysnake posted. PMyst hasn't said a word. We need to push words out of PMyst if we are going to go with the "Full Day Plan".

So I'm going to ask this question once more which has been stated to you a few times, what are your reads on PMyst right now?

OBOPM. Also note he's steering the lynch away from city in a attempt to get towncred in case city gets lynched and flips town.

In post 161, Bitmap wrote:
In post 160, Om of the Nom wrote:Isn't PM now at L-1?
Should we get a lover claim?

We should get some content out of PMyst before we do anything.

OBOPM

In post 162, Bitmap wrote:
@Mod: Requesting prod on PMyst.

OBOPM

In post 164, Bitmap wrote:
In post 163, Om of the Nom wrote:If we ask for a lover claim now, we can start making decisions based on the claim when he next posts instead of asking him after where we might have to wait much longer for him to claim.

Alright, I agree to this.

Who is the lover of PMyst?

Lol sheep. Also, OBOPM.

In post 169, Bitmap wrote:
In post 167, Om of the Nom wrote:Okay then.
We don't really need much out of PM, I don't think we'll get anywhere by asking him things.
Lynch PM today, me/city tomorrow.
Permission to hammer?

No. We have time. And if worse comes to worse, PM will get replaced. We'll lynch PM when the time comes closer.

OBOPM. Also note he's trying to drag the day out again.

In post 175, Bitmap wrote:Did anyone besides me just see him online and "browsing this forum", or am I just seeing thing?

OBOPM

In post 177, Bitmap wrote:PMysterious
Last visited:Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:36 am

...sigh.

OBOPM

In post 179, Bitmap wrote:
In post 178, Venmar wrote:He's browsing right now.

Alrighty then! I would like to hear his reads.

OBOPM

In post 180, PMysterious wrote:I honestly think Om is 100% scum. Om has really thrown me off my town groove because of his suspicious acts.

City is a little suspicious but not enough to prove himself guilty. Ven is not scum with Om. I'll explain later. I actually need to re-read a little so give me some time and I'll get back on the final question later. :wink:

Bitmap: Town
Venmar: Town
Jun: Town
PMysterious: Town (Of course) :wink:
Techno: Town
City: Leaning Scum
Om: Scum
TAM: Null

Lol weak attack on me.
Lol my lover is probably scum with me.
Lol reads list everyone is town but me and my lover.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #223 (isolation #71) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:37 am

In post 221, Om of the Nom wrote:More throwing PMyst under the bus. I should probably make an acronym for this now. "OBOPM," "Obvious bussing of PMyst."

Nice to see you skimmed through my case.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #225 (isolation #72) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:42 am

Also look, you try to discredit my

whole

case just by calling it WIFOM. Instead of, you know, responding to all the different points individually (though I'm not expecting you to respond to every single one.
Look, more discrediting. Calling my whole case tunneled, and then throwing someone else under the bus to deflect the attention away from you instead of defending it straight up like a man.

And hey look, what a nice last sentence to put into this post, you know, to really get everyone to think. What makes you think I think of you as a threat? I actually had to hydra with you in another game to

help

you.

PEDIT: I'm still not seeing any defenses. Also I note how you fail to recognise all my attacks on other people in this game. I'm sorry to say this game isn't all about you.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #231 (isolation #73) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:52 am

Meta suggests PMyst is scum. In the game Bitmap linked, PMyst actually appeared to be trying, and was more active. He's done nothing this game and he hasn't tried to either.

I deflected away from our lynch because knowing me, I love the satisfaction of being on a scum lynch wagon, and considering I don't think my partner is scum anymore, why would I be on his wagon?

Citysnake flips scum, we lynch PMyst, then Bitmap if PMyst flips town.
Citysnake flips town, we lynch Bitmap then PMyst if Bitmap flips town.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #234 (isolation #74) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:56 am

In post 228, PMysterious wrote:I don't think you're making the smartest move by lynching me. I can give you all the information you need to keep me alive. Just ask a couple of questions and I'll answer them with the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing BUT the truth.

Lol, great attempt at trying to delay your lynch.

In post 229, Bitmap wrote:
In post 225, Om of the Nom wrote:Also look, you try to discredit my
whole
case just by calling it WIFOM. Instead of, you know, responding to all the different points individually (though I'm not expecting you to respond to every single one.

Bwahahahahahahaha, and you've been responding to all the different points as well whenever I being up an argument? The most I hear from you is "my gut."

You haven't realy brought up anything that can't be explained by "my gut," or even warrants a further explanation than "my gut." Still, nice generalization.

In post 225, Om of the Nom wrote:
And hey look, what a nice last sentence to put into this post, you know, to really get everyone to think. What makes you think I think of you as a threat? I actually had to hydra with you in another game to
help
you.

Oh Om, that's so scummy of you to say that. It seems like you are trying to diminish my attacks just because I'm new to mafiascum.

Sorry, I just don't see you as a threat. I hope that didn't hurt your self esteem too much.

In post 225, Om of the Nom wrote:
PEDIT: I'm still not seeing any defenses. Also I note how you fail to recognise all my attacks on other people in this game. I'm sorry to say this game isn't all about you.

Because it's all an instance of WIFOM. You're saying that if scum me thought that scum PMyst was useless and would just obviously throw him under a bus. However, scum Om could easily been trying to distance himself from scum PMyst in order to not get suspicions. Then we have the possibility that scum Techno can be doing the same thing that you accuse scum me of doing.

This is why I said we should wait and hear more from PMyst. My attacks on PMyst were just pressuring for information and pressure voting.

Occam's razor seems nice here. You're overcomplicating everything here. Also I see you trying to throw Techno under the bus again.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #236 (isolation #75) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:58 am

If this were a Night game with no claimed power roles on D1, I'd easily shoot Techno over Bitmap anyday.

Techno, are you able to look me in the eye and seriously say that if we lynch city and Bitmap, we won't get at least one scumflip?
Are you scum? Plz don't say yes, I won't believe you unless you say no.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #238 (isolation #76) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:01 am

Let's think about this instead.

Suppose scum may not actually have daytalk! PMyst is sucking ass at playing scum, so Bitmap busses him without warning.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #240 (isolation #77) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:02 am

In post 237, Bitmap wrote:So, PMyst is being told what to do by his scum partner.

Like, seriously you guys, he just claimed scum.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #245 (isolation #78) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:06 am

In post 241, Venmar wrote:- Except scum do have daytalk since this is nightless. You also can't assume that since we haven't seen a PM flip yet.

Masons and Mafia is also nightless, and scum don't have daytalk.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #247 (isolation #79) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:07 am

In post 244, Bitmap wrote:
In post 240, Om of the Nom wrote:
In post 237, Bitmap wrote:So, PMyst is being told what to do by his scum partner.

Like, seriously you guys, he just claimed scum.

Someone experienced could just be puppeting PMyst just to guilt me. It's possible but also WIFOM.

Everything is possible. Unless you have proof, I'm not going to listen to your claim.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #249 (isolation #80) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:08 am

In post 242, TeChNoWC wrote:No.

Thank you, I was actually worried there for a second.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #253 (isolation #81) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:11 am

I already checked the rules.
No mention of Daytalk there.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #256 (isolation #82) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:13 am

Pffft, only scum read the first page.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #259 (isolation #83) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:16 am

In post 2, Espeonage wrote:
Welcome, Bitmap. You are a Mafia Lover.

What you know:
You are hopelessly in love with Junpei. If they were to die, you know that you would have no option but to join them in their deathly state.
You can talk to your lover at any time <here>.
You are scumpartners with PMysterious. You may talk with them at any time <here>.
You will win the game once you control 50% of the town.
The Mod wants you to confirm via PM.

By quoting this, do I get modkilled for quoting a role PM?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #261 (isolation #84) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:17 am

Oh no Bitmap, you quoted your own role PM.
/inb4 modkill

Om of the Nom · Post Post #263 (isolation #85) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:18 am

Bitmap, who is your lover.
Is it Junpei?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #266 (isolation #86) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:19 am

You're fun too Tech :D

Om of the Nom · Post Post #268 (isolation #87) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:20 am

OOH
THEY IZ MAKAN BABEEZ

Om of the Nom · Post Post #270 (isolation #88) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:21 am

I KNOW HOW BABEEZ ARE MADE
MY SISTER HAD A BABBY 2 WEEKS AGO

Om of the Nom · Post Post #273 (isolation #89) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:23 am

Well then, I must be confirmed scum in every game :P

Potatoes make babies by putting themselves in holes.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #277 (isolation #90) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:25 am

Of course I'm scum. Isn't it obvious. I'm your partner after all :P

Om of the Nom · Post Post #279 (isolation #91) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:27 am

I DON'T CARE ANYMORE
I WANNA GO DOWN WITH A BANG
YOU JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN THE BLAST RADIUS
I'M SORRY, BUT FLYING DEBRIS SLICED OFF YOUR HEAD
BUT HEY, IT WAS RATHER HILARIOUS TO WATCH

Om of the Nom · Post Post #281 (isolation #92) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:28 am

Sometimes, it's fun to admit your crimes :D

Om of the Nom · Post Post #283 (isolation #93) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:29 am

that fucking lying bastard

I'LL KILL HIM
AND MAYBE 499 OTHER PEOPLE
PROBABLY BY BLOWING UP AN ENTIRE BUILDING

Om of the Nom · Post Post #287 (isolation #94) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:34 am

PMYST
ANSWER ME TRUTHFULLY LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD

ARE YOU SCUM?
ARE YOU TOWN?
ARE YOU FUMBLING ALL AROUND?
ARE YOU FAILING AT YOUR PLAY?
ARE YOU LOSING YOUR OWN WAY?
ARE YOU BEING ATTACKED BY YOUR BUDDY?
ARE YOU FEELING A LITTLE MUDDY?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #289 (isolation #95) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:35 am

IT'S NOT OVER TILL MY AWAKE TIME IS OVER
I AM KINDA TIRED NOW
PROBABLY ANOTHER HALF AN HOUR TO GO

Om of the Nom · Post Post #291 (isolation #96) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:37 am

FLUFF IS GREAT
FLUFF IS FUN
OH SHIT
NOW I GOTTA RUN

not really

Om of the Nom · Post Post #294 (isolation #97) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:40 am

RHYMING THYME
SO SUBLYME
I'M THE BEST AT THIS TEST
SO PLAY ALONG IN JEST

Om of the Nom · Post Post #297 (isolation #98) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:44 am

TECH IS TRYING
THE RHYTHM IS DYING
YOU WILL GET IT SOON
NOW GO EAT A BABOON

Om of the Nom · Post Post #301 (isolation #99) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:49 am

I am a potato
I am oh so great 'o
I rhyme better than you
You rhymes just sound like poo
My rhymes are funny
Your rhymes aren't sunny
Mine make no sense
But yours have no fence
Wine in front of me
While sitting in a tree
You take up a glass
Down your throat it does pass
The liquide inside
Hey look you just died

Om of the Nom · Post Post #303 (isolation #100) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:54 am

Btw, I think I really rubbed off on Bitmap

if you know what I mean

. Considering how he's now got a certain air of cockyness to his posts now.

GJ Bitmap, you made me proud :D

Om of the Nom · Post Post #305 (isolation #101) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:55 am

He sucks at rapping and rhyming
especially on the timing
he don't got no beat
so lets give him some heat
what a great reason
but I call that treason

PEDIT: Yeah, I should sleep too.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #307 (isolation #102) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:57 am

PMYSTERIOUS PLEASE GET IN HERE K THANKZ BAI

Om of the Nom · Post Post #308 (isolation #103) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:58 am

Quote to the source of the pain to directly relieve symptoms of posting dysfuntcion.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #310 (isolation #104) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:01 am

My humps
my humps my humps my humps
my humps my humps my humps
my lovely lady lumps
check it out~

Om of the Nom · Post Post #316 (isolation #105) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:07 pm

In post 315, PMysterious wrote:
Venmar is NOT scum because I'm his lover
and I know he's town based on his posts.

Translation: "Venmar is town because I'm his scum lover."
Easy read Translation: "Lynch me plz, I'm scum."

Thank you for actually claiming scum.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #319 (isolation #106) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:09 pm

In post 318, PMysterious wrote:so am I.

Nice to see you omitted this part the first time.

There is no way I would be scum.

This can't be confirmed just because Venmar is your lover.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #321 (isolation #107) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:39 pm

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PMysterious
TAM, plz look at the post above yours and vote PMyst too.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #323 (isolation #108) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:48 pm

For once, I agree with Bitmap.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #325 (isolation #109) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:51 pm

Nope.
Your wrong because Ｉ’ｍ　ｔｏｗｎ．

Om of the Nom · Post Post #327 (isolation #110) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:03 pm

But unlike you, I never said I'm always right :P

Om of the Nom · Post Post #329 (isolation #111) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:20 pm

In post 325, Om of the Nom wrote:Nope.
Your wrong because Ｉ’ｍ　ｔｏｗｎ．

Om of the Nom · Post Post #331 (isolation #112) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:21 pm

But you're wrong, I'm town.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #333 (isolation #113) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:24 pm

In post 332, Bitmap wrote:
In post 331, Om of the Nom wrote:But you're wrong, I'm town.

But you're wrong, I'm town.

But you're wrong, I'm town.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #335 (isolation #114) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:30 pm

But you're wrong again, Techno is town.
You're scum, and so is PMyst.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #337 (isolation #115) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:33 pm

In post 333, Om of the Nom wrote:
In post 332, Bitmap wrote:
In post 331, Om of the Nom wrote:But you're wrong, I'm town.

But you're wrong, I'm town.

But you're wrong, I'm town.

But you're wrong, I'm town.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #341 (isolation #116) » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:14 pm

I think Venmar is onto something. He certainly made me realise that TAM is actually in the game.

Happy birthday citysnake :D

Om of the Nom · Post Post #360 (isolation #117) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:23 pm

I've played the 'kill me now' card before and then backed out of it as town. This game isn't any different.
Junpei trying to push a mislynch on me using meta is hilarious, considering the only game he really had to judge me with was my second game onsite, when I still sucked.

Junpei needs to read more of my meta if he actually wants to consider my lynch.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #361 (isolation #118) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:44 pm

Eh, frankly I'm not really concerned anymore.
Everyone's scum except Venmar, citysnake and myself.
Have fun lynching everyone else :P

Om of the Nom · Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:06 pm

I always abuse my meta, it's nothing new.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #371 (isolation #120) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:36 pm

@Tech: Because I'm starting to get paranoid lol.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #376 (isolation #121) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:54 pm

I came into this thread expecting to be lynched.

I am dissapoint.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #384 (isolation #122) » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:16 pm

I'm not going to bother arguing Junpei's points, as technically he's right, as I have been doing a lot of that stuff, and so defending wrongly will just get me mislynched (though it's not like I care about that anymore lol).
What I will do though, is ask him a question.

@Junpei: Why do any of those things make me scum?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #389 (isolation #123) » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:44 pm

Yeah, I'm not completely wanting to be lynched anymore.
I just don't really care if we get lynched anymore.
You all seemed so sure it was one of us, and we're still alive.

I also like how Junpei keeps stalling his case.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #393 (isolation #124) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:25 pm

Techno, if you think we're both town, why don't you try getting everyone off our wagons?

I can't even remember my reasons for most of my early game reads, and I'm not prepared to go through the game again just to re-figure it out.

If we're scum, then just lynch us, if we're town, then get off our wagons. Everyone needs to stop pussyfooting around our lynch and pick a side.

Although frankly I want to be lynched really badly right now because it will damage Junpei's confidence >:D

Om of the Nom · Post Post #398 (isolation #125) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:10 pm

Pussyfooting is bad because it's stalling the day. Everybody is lurking like a mofo right now because we're all just waiting for a lynch to happen. There is barely any real discussion going on right now.

One of Bitmap/Junpei is scum, and the other is between PMyst/TAM.

PEDIT: I hav claimed multiple times that I believe city and I are town/town. I can't really argure against most of the stuff presented against me because I've actually done a lot of this stuff. I mean, sure, I can claim it's meta, but what use would that be against stubborn people like Junpei who would discredit it in an instant?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #400 (isolation #126) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:15 pm

Guys, can I just self-hammer now?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #405 (isolation #127) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:24 pm

The best reasons I can give for people being scum:
Bitmap: A lot of the reasons I've stated throughout the day.
Junpei: He's obviously trying to bait me into lynching myself.
TAM: What Venmar said.
PMyst: Meta doesn't check out.

There, now you have some quick insight on how I formed my reads.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #406 (isolation #128) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:26 pm

If y'all wanna start hopping on a Junpei wagon then, maybe I won't self-hammer.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #408 (isolation #129) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:30 pm

Where was it stated that PMyst and TAM are lovers either?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #409 (isolation #130) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:31 pm

Everyone should just lover claim now.
Also everyone should give a clear read on both city and I. We're either town or scum, nothing else.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #411 (isolation #131) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:33 pm

Yes, everyone should claim lovers Junpei.
I want to know who else is going to die when you get lynched. Bonus points if it's Bitmap or TAM who are also scumreads of mine.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #415 (isolation #132) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:36 pm

I know Venmar, that's why I said one of them is scum.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #417 (isolation #133) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:37 pm

Bitmap and Junpei are the obvscum lover pair, while PMyst is the scummier one in his pair and so is TAM.

PEDIT: Kinda, I mainly want to know that there is more support for his lynch.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #419 (isolation #134) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:39 pm

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Junpei

Om of the Nom · Post Post #422 (isolation #135) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:40 pm

Om of the Nom · Post Post #423 (isolation #136) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:41 pm

Can everyone just follow me on the Junpei wagon plz?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #426 (isolation #137) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:43 pm

In post 424, Junpei wrote:I think that Om of the Nom clearly has knowledge of the lover pairings which are only available to mafia. THIS is the precise reason why we don't claim lovers, to get tells like this.

Oh Junpei, please don't start shit like this again.
This is exactly why you got lynched in Vanillaside.
Except when you get lynched this time we'll have the extra benefit of you flipping scum.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #427 (isolation #138) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:44 pm

Bitmap/Junpei and TAM/Techno are the only unknown lover pairs viable to me right now.
The interactions between the suspected pairs are enough to convince me.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #428 (isolation #139) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:45 pm

Like seriously, just fucking claim now.
The only reason you're hesitating to claim is so you can use this crap tell against me.
You literally just admitted you guys were lovers by voting me for this. If I was wrong about the pairs, it wouldn't be voteworthy.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #430 (isolation #140) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:50 pm

His partner is Bitmap.
He's claimed it multiple times within the thread already.
Just not directly.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #433 (isolation #141) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:27 pm

You're mistaking being good at telling partners for being scum.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #434 (isolation #142) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:27 pm

But don't worry, you're excused because it's easily a rookie mistake.

Also because you're scum and have to feign it anyway.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #436 (isolation #143) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:33 pm

I knew because it was obvious, not because I'm scum.
Like seriously, you're deliberately omitting the fact that you made it easy to guess so that you can make it seem like a scumslip.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #438 (isolation #144) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:40 pm

Ugh, arguing with you hurts my brain.
Can we just hurry up and lynch him?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #440 (isolation #145) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:12 pm

Om of the Nom · Post Post #442 (isolation #146) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:24 pm

That's because he isn't.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #444 (isolation #147) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:41 pm

You and Bitmap have had literally no arguments together this whole game, and you have basically the same reads as eachother.
This screams lover pair to me.

Is it really that hard to grasp?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #446 (isolation #148) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:46 pm

In post 445, TeChNoWC wrote:I want to see where everyone stands on the lynch, no wishy washy bullshit.

Yep, thank you for stating the exact same message I've been trying to convey to everyone for the past 5 pages at least.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #448 (isolation #149) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:49 pm

Junpei, you're so predictable.
Anyone would have guessed you were going to discredit me again.
And you did.
*sigh*

That is the most accurate generalisation of your playstyle ever, and it holds even more water for this game, in which you've constantly said "nope" to every single suggestion presented towards you, and have not shared your read on anyone who isn't me.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #450 (isolation #150) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:52 pm

Like seriously, Junpei is hesitant to do anything pro-town right now and is just perfectly content with his position on my wagon and calling for my lynch.

Why are you guys not lynching him instead?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #452 (isolation #151) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:05 pm

Tech.
You keep saying how Junpei's current behaviour works better for him as scum than it does for him as town.
Why haven't you voted him yet?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #454 (isolation #152) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:12 pm

No you don't have an explanation.
Junpei, seriously, if you're town, you're being so fucking anti-town right now it's hurting everyone's brain in this game.

Every single time you don't explain something you always say it's because you're confident that what you're pushing at that time will happen.

Hey Junpei, what about when I flip town? What would happen then?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #456 (isolation #153) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:16 pm

Yep.
Predictable as always.

Junpei, next time you post in this thread, I expect all the explanations for everything you've been holding back (other than who your scumbuddy is, as that's against the spirit of the game).

Nothing less will be allowed.
It's do or die right here.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #457 (isolation #154) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:17 pm

Plus, no way I'm going to sleep now, it's only 6:16PM and I haven't even had dinner yet :P

Om of the Nom · Post Post #460 (isolation #155) » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:26 pm

@Mod: I'd like to replace out please.

I like my games with good players. For everyone else, there's Junpei.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #488 (isolation #156) » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:56 pm

I'm town

Om of the Nom · Post Post #774 (isolation #157) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:21 pm

ARGHHHHHH
THIS GAME
THIS FUCKING GAME
THIS GAME WAS SO HARD TO WATCH AFTER I DIED
BITMAP AND I WERE CRINGING FROM THE PAIN OF THIS LYLO
OH GOD THIS WAS TERRIBLE
AS IF YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY LOST TO PMYST WHO WAS DOING

THE MOST OBVIOUS SCUM DEFENSES EVER

! HE WASN'T EVEN BOTHERING TO READ TAM'S POSTS AND INSTEAD JUST CONTINUED TO ASSERT HIS IMAGINARY TOWNINESS AND CALL TAM SCUM WITHOUT DOING SHIT ABOUT IT.
TECHNO, VEN, NEXT TIME YOU'RE IN LYLO WITH BIAS FOR VOTING SOMEOME, ACTUALLY

PAY ATTENTION

TO WHAT THE OTHER PERSON IS SAYING. DON'T JUST ASSUME THE PERSON YOU HAVE BIAS AGAINST IS SCUM AND CALL IT A DAY.
TECHNO, IF YOU HAVE A TOWNREAD ON SOMEOME (in this case TAM)

DON'T

VOTE HIM REGARDLESS OF THE STATE OF THE GAME (exceptions being needing a deadline lynch, which this game didn't). TRY AND CONVINCE EVERYONE ELSE WHY THAT PERSON IS TOWN INSTEAD OF GIVING UP HOPE OF LYNCHING SCUM.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #777 (isolation #158) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:43 pm

Bit told me that he basically suicided because PMyst was his partner.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #783 (isolation #159) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:47 pm

Holy shit, looking at my ISO I really was on the money on the first day. Sometimes even my own play bewilders me.

Oh yeah, since I forgot to mention this, Junpei fucking sucks at mafia despite all his attempts to prove otherwise. Next time you're about to be lynched,

don't

fucking hide your reads from us. It's fucking common sense for town to give their last word before lynch. Don't go parading around your imaginary intelligence to everyone if you aren't able to back it up in any way at all.

Also, favorite post in the game:

In post 73, Venmar wrote:
In post 70, Bitmap wrote:How flawed gut feeling are.

In post 70, Bitmap wrote:
How flawed gut feeling are.

In post 70, Bitmap wrote:
How flawed gut feeling are.

No.

PEDIT: PMyst you were fucking terrible this game and you only won because Techno and Ven couldn't be fucked playing anymore.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #785 (isolation #160) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:52 pm

Holy fuck, reading Junpei/Bitmap QT and look at this gem I found:

Junpei wrote:I wonder if Om of the Nom thinks he's a really good player/upper echelon or not. I can't wait until his randomass gut evens out and then he quits playing mafia like [redacted] because he "Lost his touch" lulz.

Seriously don't like this guy if you can't tell I'm getting huge ego vibes (MoI levels) from someone who doesn't deserve it (don't like admitting it but MoI does deserve it).

LOOK HOW THAT FUCKING TURNED OUT. I LISTED THREE SCUMREADS ED1 AND TWO OF THEM WERE SCUM, AND HERE YOU ARE NOT GIVING READS DESPITE BEING NEAR-DEATH, AND READING YOUR LOVER AS TOWN WHEN HE'S ACTUALLY SCUM. YEP GREAT FUCKING PLAY RIGHT THERE DUMBASS.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #786 (isolation #161) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:53 pm

Junpei wrote:I think that Om of the Nom is lazy, makes up excuses for himself as a person, annoying, and not good at mafia. The fact that he is walking around with a big ego going all "hurr hurr gut read is usually right" makes me upset. That's all it is, no point in discussing it further I'll keep it out of this game from now on.

I'm sorry, I've gotten past the anger now and am literally laughing my fucking head off at this.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #789 (isolation #162) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:05 pm

The best part of this game (other than realising how fucking awesome I was after I knew who the scum definitely were) was the discussion Bitmap and I had after we died. Seriously, the game would have been too easy if we were scum together.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #791 (isolation #163) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:10 pm

(Also Bitmap's main goal was to get me lynched ASAP which shows you just how much I deserve my ego)
PEDIT: Ikr? Bitmap thought the game was over for them at that point, but like nobody really pushed it.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #792 (isolation #164) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:11 pm

I guess everyone brushed it off since PM doesn't get how to play mafia at all and just thought he was being a dumbfuck.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #794 (isolation #165) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:16 pm

Shhh, you're ruining my appearance :P

Om of the Nom · Post Post #799 (isolation #166) » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:46 pm

Bitmap's biggest mistake was definitely his reaction to my fake-hammer gambit. Since after all his constant notifications that we should use the whole day, his reaction to the gambit looked like he didn't care one bit.

Om of the Nom · Post Post #810 (isolation #167) » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:54 pm

TAM's last message in your QT was so obvtown you should have not lynched him at all.