Open 431 - Sword Swallowing - Game Over

[TheShadow]

So this has started..

VOTE: Om

Yes, I do want fries with that.

[TheShadow]

So this has started..

VOTE: Om

Yes, I do want fries with that.

Is there any other reason for that vote?

Of course not. It's RVS.

[TheShadow]

lol...

Seriously though, no activity means nothing to analyze to help get out of RVS...

[TheShadow]

And here comes a modkill..

If he is scum, that's a violation of General Rule 2.

Play to win. Players want to win legitimately, don't ruin their enjoyment by playing against your wincon.

If not, then it brings in General Rule 10, re: rule 2.

Pretending to break a rule will be treated the same as breaking the rule.

[TheShadow]

That's a policy lynch anyways. It will provide the truth.

My vote is no longer rvs based.

[TheShadow]

VOTE: Thomas

[TheShadow]

I see the Shadow browsing this forum.
Get in here and post

Sure, now that I have the physical capability to do so for the first time all day.

VOTE: TheShadow

Quicklynching is BAD. Very bad. Especially when we have barely got out of random voting stage. Especially when there's a votecount right above your post...

If you're so against a quickhammer, then why did you put him at L-1 in the first place? And then with the first post of day 2 attempt to start a wagon based on the hammer vote? This strikes me as scum setting up a townie hammer that could then be pushed as a "quickhammers are scummy" wagon the next day.

VOTE: Siv

Also, in case anyone asks. I was getting the impression that Shadow was egging us on because he entertained the notion of a policy lynch without giving an opinion on my alignment individually. It looked like he wanted to support Thomas and indirectly attack me without getting in our way.

The whole thing regarding your "joke" claim I admit was not handled well by me. You're lucky we have a newbie mod. Most games, claiming scum with someone even as a joke would be an instant modkill.

@Mod: Can you PLEASE not hide the flips behind spoiler text? The device I'm using to read the thread 99% of the time has no means of text selection, meaning I can't read what it says. I did not know until a few minutes ago that Thomas flipped town and was the nightkill.

[TheShadow]

Alright, answering questions:

Re: the quickhammer. It is my style to drop a hammer like that on someone I feel is scummy even before a claim. If they're null to me I'll declare intent and allow for claim first.


Reads:

Siv is my #1 scumread, for reasons including those I mentioned in my last post where I voted him.
Partner I think is Split, or maybe Scigatt.
Om and Amrun scream town to me, based partly on experience of previous games I've played with you.

[TheShadow]

TheShadow, what other games have we played?

A couple Larges.. game of the year, and one other I cant mention cause its still ongoing

[TheShadow]

I'm here, just nothing happening so there's been nothing to comment on.

[TheShadow]

Upon review, I'm even more convinced that split is scum. His ENTIRE ISO:

What a silly name for a dolphin:

VOTE: Thomas

RVS

Going out of town on short notice.

V/LA until Monday

fluff post announcing v/la

If you're so against a quickhammer, then why did you put him at L-1 in the first place? And then with the first post of day 2 attempt to start a wagon based on the hammer vote? This strikes me as scum setting up a townie hammer that could then be pushed as a "quickhammers are scummy" wagon the next day.

VOTE: Siv

This seems like a stretch.

@Mod: Can you PLEASE not hide the flips behind spoiler text? The device I'm using to read the thread 99% of the time has no means of text selection, meaning I can't read what it says. I did not know until a few minutes ago that Thomas flipped town and was the nightkill.

But this seems like a towntell.

Amrun and Om seem town, leaving Siv and Scigatt by POE.

VOTE: Siv

L-1

Comments one one of my posts, and puts Siv (who has flipped town) at L-1

Spitfarvle's last post was really bad, considering he attacked TheShadow only to call him town in his next sentence. Which to me seems like pointless content.

Just calling it how I see it.

No it doesn't. It seems like an attempt to push a null tell as a town tell. This is enough to decide between TheShadow and Siveure DtTrikyp for now.

How does it seem like a null tell? It Shadow was scum, he'd know who the nk was. Also is this really the best case you have for voting Shadow over Siv? What is your read on Siv?

More filler, nothing really useful.

I don't have a real suspect for his partner yet, but I'm 99% sure split is scum.
VOTE: splitfarvle

[TheShadow]

The vote is on scum. I will not be unvoting unless something changes the read.

[TheShadow]

Alright I"m going to

UNVOTE

for now.
A large part of my case on split was inactivity and lack of content. I'll wait and see what funky has to say.

[TheShadow]

I still think your slot is scum, for reasons beyond what I've stated. I'm just unvoting for now.

[TheShadow]

Well, would you care to give us these reasons?

The main one is the fact that the game's still going. If split/you were town, scum would have hammered by now. There was 36 hours between my initial vote and the unvote when you replaced in. Plenty of time for one to vote and another to hammer.

If you are town, then scum deserve to lose because I handed them a textbook LyLo auto-win and they didn't use it.

[TheShadow]

I am here just nothing to say. Everyone seems convinced I am scum. Go ahead and lynch me then and have only yourself to blame when town loses. After all it IS LyLo.

[TheShadow]

Oh and I'm going to
VOTE: funkybike1

Nothing he's had to say has changed my scumread on the slot.

[TheShadow]

I agree my own play was bad. I was not at my best in this game. Though Siv's self-hammer Day 2 was also bad.

[TheShadow]

Also I have to say that I never suspected Om. Well played.