Open 439 - Less Pressure - Final

[DarkLightA]

Fantastic!

And I believe the mod is meant to tell us who the innocent children are?

[DarkLightA]

Hi,

So this is my first full game back, after a two-year leave. I replaced into one game prior to joining this, and my win stats are currently at 100%.

Either way, I'm excited to play!

VOTE: noctis_nox[/b]

For a scummy-looking username.

[DarkLightA]

Crap.. Still getting used to the new tags ^^

VOTE: noctis_nox

[DarkLightA]

Anyways, I highly recommend we try to work together as much as possible. being ICs we can essentially force scum into a corner if we can get our reads together.

Who are you talking to here?

[DarkLightA]

Oh, right, didn't realize that it was the other innocent child, thought he was talking about Inexperienced Challenged ^.^

Either way, yeah, Voided, let's do this

[DarkLightA]

Unvote

[DarkLightA]

Guys, pleeease don't make this personal..

[DarkLightA]

Wrong thread -.-

[DarkLightA]

VOTE:

Voidedmafia

For screwing up the modding in my first game.

Nvm, meant this.

Unless it's a RVS vote I don't like it

[DarkLightA]

Heh...

ANYWAY, let's get this game started, shall we?

(Oh, and link? )

[DarkLightA]

Ah, I see.. Nice job voided!

[DarkLightA]

Yeah, um, we're not ruling out anybody after one post..

[DarkLightA]

Yeah, fair enough.

[DarkLightA]

Heh, hi Voided.

I think PM is town.

[DarkLightA]

VOTE: Noctis_nox

Not much to go on atm, but it's a start.

[DarkLightA]

L-2 isn't it?

[DarkLightA]

I can definitely see where you're coming from with regards to Trevor. He seems to expect the world from everyone, and is participating very little himself.

Also, Siveure, regarding wagons: It can often be a valuable source of information to see someone's response under the pressure of a wagon.

For now:
VOTE: Trevor

[DarkLightA]

Yay!

[DarkLightA]

I've recently figured out that metas can be of great importance in finding scum.
This is how I can assume PMysterious is town, as he's never been trolling/unserious as anything but VT.

However, I've now examined drmyshotgun after the recent suspicion against him, and the following is what I've figured out:
When VT, very brief comments are made, mostly 1-2 liners.
When town PR, slightly longer comments are made.
When mafia, long posts with lots and lots of quotes are used.

I think it's quite obvious which is case in this game.


Of course, this isn't foolproof, but I think the trend is so clear that we can extrapolate it to this game. In addition to being suspicious, I think this gives a clear indication that he is a part of the "red" team.

If you don't believe me, feel free to check out his games for yourself.

VOTE: Drmyshotgun

[DarkLightA]

Keep in mind that we're running out of time quickly.

[DarkLightA]

So, that's the deadline gone, and drmyshotgun has been lynched, according to my calculations.

Hopefully that'll be half of our objective completed.

[DarkLightA]

Oh, right, didn't realize that it was a countdown.

Well, anyone want to state why they aren't voting for shotgun?

Please remember,

townies and voided, in order to lynch, if that scum don't vote, we have to ALL vote for the player (5 to lynch).

[DarkLightA]

Om of the Nom, assuming you're replacing PM? Welcome.

How can you be so sure that drmyshotgun is town?

[DarkLightA]

I've recently figured out that metas can be of great importance in finding scum.
This is how I can assume PMysterious is town, as he's never been trolling/unserious as anything but VT.

However, I've now examined drmyshotgun after the recent suspicion against him, and the following is what I've figured out:
When VT, very brief comments are made, mostly 1-2 liners.
When town PR, slightly longer comments are made.
When mafia, long posts with lots and lots of quotes are used.

I think it's quite obvious which is case in this game.


Of course, this isn't foolproof, but I think the trend is so clear that we can extrapolate it to this game. In addition to being suspicious, I think this gives a clear indication that he is a part of the "red" team.

If you don't believe me, feel free to check out his games for yourself.

VOTE: Drmyshotgun

Thoughts, om of the nom?

[DarkLightA]

I really don't like your defense of Shotgun. You shouldn't be blindly defending people like that.

[DarkLightA]

Holy cow. Maybe you're the one we should lynch.

[DarkLightA]

Okay, prepare for a long post about what shotgun has achieved in this game.

UNVOTE:

Hi everybody!
Voided, you scum again?! Lol nah.
DarkLightA is also confirmed which reduces my suspects.
Hmm, Noctis is voting for me, and one Innocent Child is voting for Noctis.
Will read soon.

Sorry, but what exactly were you trying to accomplish here? It seems like you're trying awfully hard to "ease" yourself into the game.

Siveure looks Scum.
Noctis looks Scum too.

(This is the second post) Okay, shotgun posts about two people who he thinks look scummy. No additional reasoning. Odd.

I knew it. I just knew it. I was gonna RVS voided. I had it typed out, then I had to leave for a few minutes. I had it planned out from when I saw the full playerlist for this game.

Meh, I don't care.

VOTE: Voidedmafia

For screwing up the modding in my first game.

Worries about voting Innocent Child as RVS vote.
Brings in outside topic. Possibly to provoke heat.

It doesn't count as ongoing before the restart, does it?

None game related comment.

Pretty obviously you. You're both confirmed innocents.

Answers someone else's question.

Must build counterwagon to save jigglypuff!

*falls asleep because of jigglypuff*

Aaaagh! I'm not standing for that!

VOTE: PMysterious

Hops on bandwagon.
Yet another RVS?
What?

It's the very first vote of the game. Yes, it's RVS. And, to be fair, it WAS a pretty big screw-up.

Yet another non-game related talk.
Making Innocent Child look bad.
No comment about anything else? Like, that early bandwagon on PM?

And yeah, we need more people to post loads. Or at least a little bit more than they have already.

Considering you are not giving any game-related talk, you are the one to say this. Right?
Still no comment on Jigglypuff?

VOTE: Noctis Nox

I think that's L-1. Do NOT quickhammer.

Lol what? Why did you put him on L-1 then?
No comment on PMysterious.
Jumps on Noctis wagon.
So I see you are one hell of a wagon-humper.
Faking caution to look Town.
The reason to put him on "L-1" is not given.

Same reason as with all my early game votes really. Randomness and bandwagonness.

Yeah right.

I'm waiting for what noctis has to say. Townread on Siveure

The hell?

Noctis, why should we unbandwagonate you?

Also, we need a votecount...

Why did you make a bandwagon on him in the first place?
Bussing your partner, I presume.

Okay. Two things. Firstly, something strikes me kinda off about trevor after rereading for votes.
UNVOTE: Noctis_Nox
VOTE: Trevor

Secondly, a vote count!

PMysterious - L-4 (Mortonfrh)
noctis_nox - L-3 (Trevor, DarkLightA)
Trevor - L-4 (Siveure DtTrikyp)
Siveure DtTrikyp - L-4 (Jaden)
Mortontfrh - L-4 (Noctis Nox)

Not Voting: Voidedmafia, Pmysterious.

Just what?
You didn't give a single reason on your votes so far. Just saying: You like wagonning is not enough.
Votecount - Faking your usefulness for the Town.

VOTE: Siveure

Sorry for the long quote, but I find this important. Firstly, shotgun never has posts like this without being scum, according to his meta, but that's fair enough. However, what looks dangerous to me here is that he is actually not contributing anything to the game, simply summarizing it in what looks like an attempt to blend into the scumhunting. There are several others like this.

So, I come in do something useful, something that no-one has bothered to do, and I'm getting votes from one of my suspects and Innocent Child himself?

Lol at Siveure using Darklight as his defense.

Here he claims that these summaries are useful, and that he's been scumhunting.

Currently, I see Siveure's vote as nothing more than OMGUS with hodge-podge reasoning.
Buddying with Darklight noted.

This blows my mind (figuratively); buddying with me... I'm sorry, but why would... Gah.. This is such a weird post; again, shotgun isn't contributing things to the thread.

Wow.
This game is retarded. Like seriously.
I brought life and sense to this game, and I'm getting voted at?
This is utter supreme bullshit.

Voided. Please make sure there's a rope around Siveure or Noctis's neck when I'm gone.

Why does nobody see the bullshit contradiction Siveure made in his post?
He says PM is probably my scum partner.
Then he puts PM into the only sure-Town slot he presents and me at the right bottom?
What the fuck is that shit.

@Noctis: Slip? Fuck off. Why don't you focus on anything other than what concerns you? You should replace out.

How long is deadline?
What exactly is the case on me?

Never knew that Scumhunting results into being the target of insane Town witch-hunt.

Again, he claims that he's been doing

so

much to help the town, and has been voted unfairly.

Oh, right, didn't realize that it was a countdown.

Well, anyone want to state why they aren't voting for shotgun?

Why are you voting for me?

This was after I made a rather thorough meta analysis of him.

This is a game where there are several useless/lurking players...actually, scratch that.
Everybody is pretty useless and not active enough.
Scum are trying to get rid of the Town's greatest, newest asset in a so blatant manner that I'm astounded.

So with several people just cruising in the darkness, you guys are willing to lynch an active, scumhunting player who is doing the right thing?

I'm very disappointed with Darklight mostly since the other two on my wagon are Scums.
All the reason you think I'm scum is because I'm posting big posts which you claim does not match my Town-meta.
Why don't you actually read them for once instead of sizing them up?

Noctis-nox's so-called "case" consists of: Oh, he attacked me for my RVS (when others have pointed that out on him also). Oh he "slipped" lol.
Yeah lynch this shithead with the speed of lightning when I'm gone.
But you know what? I shouldn't be gone.
VOTE: noctis_nox

Because I'm Galileo fucking Galilei in this Town who thinks Earth is the centre of the universe.

This really rubs me the wrong way, that he's willing to blatantly state without any context or reason (that I can see, anyway) that two players are scum, with 100% certainty.

I already asked for a replacement. I don't want to be called a fucking idiot.

So you replacing out = all charges against you dissolves?
Serious?
I say we lynch this dude so that we don't trouble the replacee and the Mod.
His slot is scumslot. No way someone would flake the game as Town just because they got called out useless.

Yeah it is clear that Trevor is making up reads as he goes. He got caught so stupidly though :/

Here again. He's stating as if it were a fact that a player is scum, with no doubt.


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tldr: Shotgun is scummy.

[DarkLightA]

I'm leaning towards town on Om. He seems genuine.

Trevor's post seems scummy, but I'm wondering if it might just be a townie trying to seem even more townish. I don't know, I'll have to come back to it.

However, I do not like how you're reacting to... pretty much everything, shotgun; it's not you personally, but you seem to be stating everything as if it was a fact: "You ignoring Trevor's fake "townslip" and fake reads?" - When you're a townie you don't have this much information.

If

you are a townie, you shouldn't state things like this; it's dangerous.

[DarkLightA]

I'm so glad DarkLightA is mod-confirmed town because I'm getting mixed reads from him too

Hah, sorry about that, I'm letting myself a bit more loose in this game because of it.

[DarkLightA]

NO! Check his topics yourself, don't let him pick them for you.

[DarkLightA]

Well, either way you shouldn't ask him to do it. That's like asking Hitler to prosecute himself. Okay, maybe taking it a bit far, but hopefully you get the point.

[DarkLightA]

GOOD IDEA. LET'S GO WITH CAPS FROM NOW ON.

[DarkLightA]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
Example of a game where drmyshotgun had a similar reaction to being lynched as scum. Be cautious.

[DarkLightA]

I'm sorry for not being active. I've started a demanding school year, but I'm going to try to keep up here.
My first suspicion of the day is Siveure, mainly because of his response to Voided's post: "3 scum in Om, Trevor, Siv, and IJY, and I bet one of the first two will be."
In general this means that Siv has a *high* suspicion from Voided. However, he doesn't even seem to care about this in his response.
I'm going to look into more people later.

[DarkLightA]

When you listed him in a list where you said 3/4 were scum, he didn't seem to react.

[DarkLightA]

That it seems odd when he doesn't even attempt to defend himself.

[DarkLightA]

Based on his iso, I think Trevor looks quite scummy. He hasn't done any real scumhunting, and has only flung around empty reads based on air.

[DarkLightA]

I don't know about Om, I haven't played with him before, but my instinct is that he's town..

[DarkLightA]

DUDE, don't go there. If you are town, you cannot afford to make assumptions.

[DarkLightA]

VOTE: Siv

Wow.

[DarkLightA]

BK jumped on that wagon like a scum.

[DarkLightA]

For some reason I missed Voided's vote.

You shouldn't be wagoning on people in Lylo.

[DarkLightA]

I'm talking about the LYLO part of it, not the reasoning part of it.

[DarkLightA]

*facepalm*

[DarkLightA]

Guys... We can't afford to have anyone at L-1.