Open 439 - Less Pressure - Final

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HI GUNNY

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Gunny is fucking obvtown and everyone on his wagon needs to get the hell off it.

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VOTE: noctis
His last post just REEKS of fakeness.

PEDIT: HI VOIDED!!
I'M NOT SCUM EITHER, WE WILL WIN THIS GAME!

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He is town because he's actually been doing things, while everyone else just seems fine enough to jump on him.

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I've seen Gunny make really long posts as town. I don't believe you've been through enough of his meta.

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I have played TONS of games with Gunny. I know his meta pretty well.

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Me calling Gunny town was originally my actual read, but then I realised how much he was going on about how he's the most obvtownie here and other people are stupid for wagoning him and that reminded me of my play in Open 404 (which coincidentally enough Feirei also modded). So by then I decided to turn it into a reaction test.
Gunny reacted exactly the way I expected he would, in that he would show glee at how I'm on his side and would probably try to buddy me. This reads to me like he's glad that I'm already on his side, since he knows I would be a big obstacle for him to overcome if I get a scumread on him.
However, I still don't know if I'm just being paranoid about this, considering he still is the only one really doing things here. So currently, I'm now undecided on Gunny's alignment, and I'll let you guys decide based on what I just said.

tl;dr Gunny isn't obvtown to me anymore.

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Also noctis is just really, REALLY bad town. Like that's horrible play, but I don't think it's horrible scumplay anymore.
UNVOTE:
Will take a look into other people soon.

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Nice to see you still acting in the same way I was acting in Open 404. Constantly going on about how you're a bad lynch.

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Gunny stop being hard to read.
I can't tell if you're annoyed town or AtE'ing scum.
I never even paid attention to your meta anyway.

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That's a perfectly valid accusation from my POV at least, maybe not as much for others.
But what it means is that you're acting the same way I would act as scum. Which means that by my logic you are scum too.
Just like how you could clear someone as town for doing something you've done before as town.

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Remember, I don't pay attention to your meta. Half the time I write you off as town anyway and forget about you, then all of a sudden people vote you and you flip scum.

It's a rather good scumtell from my point of view, and I'm not going to bother convincing everyone else with it since they won't find it as useful.

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I did already state I'm currently unsure on your alignment right now. I never implied I would vote you.
I'd much rather observe your behavior more before deciding whether or not to lynch you.
Yeah basically, haven't you seen how I almost always call you town immediately? And also how I'm rarely on your lynch if you flip scum?

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I can admit I'm fencesitting because frankly I am. I'm not going to hide that.
You should already know where that happens, though I can be nice and try and find examples anyway.

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I'm so glad DarkLightA is mod-confirmed town because I'm getting mixed reads from him too :P

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Argh, you guys are making me feel like I'm off my game :P
Then again, I could just be tired from today (I just got back from an Anime/Manga convention).

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Okay, I'm fine with a Trevor wagon.
VOTE: Trevor

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Well then can you do me a favor and tell me which games you were scum in?

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I'm really not prepared to do that right now, I'm too tired.

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I'M GIVING HIM A CHANCE TO PROVE HIS SUPPOSED TOWNINESS

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ONE OF US

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IT'S ALMOST 2AM.
I'M IN CONSTANT CAPS MODE.

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Nah, I'm like just about to go to sleep.
EXCEPT YOUTUBE IS TOO DISTRACTING.

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However...he does bring up a good point. Om was fairly certain about Gunny being town based on his meta, yet to turn around and say that you don't really pay attention to it raises a question: Why in the world would you try to use it to defend Gunny if you don't even know what the hell you're using?

I wanted to show a great deal of confidence in my read to get the best reaction out of Gunny. I figured meta was the best excuse. Notice how I don't use the meta excuse in my first post when I call him obvtown, but only use it after which is when I decided to make it a reaction test.

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PEOPLE ARE SILLY AND CAN'T READ.
I CLEARLY STATED I CHANGED MY OBVTOWN READ ON GUNNY INTO A REACTION TEST SOON AFTER I POSTED ABOUT IT.
GENERALLY THIS MEANS THAT MY READ ON HIM ISN'T OBVTOWN ANYMORE.
HENCE THE 180.
GEEZ, IT'S CALLED BASIC LOGIC.

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Dead Town never lies.

Dead town aren't always right either.

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Hey, it was a last minute reaction test, and you reacted EXACTLY the way I predicted you would. It was actually really successful considering how it was made.
Am I not allowed to do player-specific reaction tests?

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Actually, I've made up my mind now and Gunny IS scum.
VOTE: Gunny

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Gunny is totes trying to connect himself with me and Trevor.

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Nah, you just fail to realise it's true because you're scum.

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Nah, I can't be bothered now.
It's rather funny watching you trying to push a mislynch on me for this.

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Trevor is now town because of gut. I'm reading huuuuuuge townie vibes from his posts now.
Siv is def. scum.

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Voided, I'm pretty sure it's not om.

That leaves Trevor/Jaden/Noctis as scums.

Also, it IS LyLo. While the chances of a triple quickhammer by scum is low, we don't want to lose if it does happen.

Also, one of the first two will be? Will be what?

PEdit: BOTH of you unvote.

FoS: Trevor (in lieu of a vote).

This post just is really really really bad. It screams waffles to me, and also it looks like you're trying to emit fake-towniness by summarising up what's happening right now instead of showing actual towniness and trying to advance the game.
Also:

The "??? Excuse me?" is a scum reaction btw.

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I take back my noctis townread because POE means he's scum with Siv and Jaden.

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VOTE: Siv

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Because I'm way more comfortable on an actual scumread on Siv than I am on a POE scumread on Jaden.

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He doesn't even try to explain it or disprove it, instead, he completely avoids talking about it further. Plus to me it sounds like he's been caught for the wrong reasons.

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Can we just hurry up and lynch Siv yet?

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Hi BK

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Well I'm town and so is Trevor, which leaves Siv/noctis/You as the scumteam.

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His defenses were scummy.

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potato

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About what?
I just wanted the deadline to stay the same.

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Well I've already stated that I think Siv/noctis/BK are scum because of POE and also an actual scumread on Siv.
Trevor is town.

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Just vote Siv please.
Only 4 days left.

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What do you mean, Voided?

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I'm town too you dit :P

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Which is exactly why I'm telling you.

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Buddying is fun.

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Well BK and Voided have both played with me before (also Siv) and they're both horribly wrong but that's because they're scum and misinformed respectively.

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Ummm, assumptions are the whole part of the game.
Like you're assuming I'm town based on your instinct.
For all you know you could be wrong (though you aren't btw).
BK is scum, Siv is scum, noctis is scum. We lynch Siv then BK and we win.

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Please, tell me why there hasn't been a quickhammer on EITHER of these two wagons?
I could jump onto BK and it wouldn't make a difference.
Also I'm already voting, you dit :P

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If it makes you feel better, the comma was a last-minute decision for clarity.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: BK
lol

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unvote

?

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And Voided jumped off the BK wagon like a silly person.

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Siveure is an obvious scumbuddy. Why would he unvote if he'd already put all of his faith on a lylo vote. Just more stalling and distancing.

Yep this is an obvscum post. My townread on you has died.
BK is still scum. He clearly can't think of a reason to defend his scumslip. He knows he's basically fucked.

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Nice appeal to fear.

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Welp.
I'm confirmed town to myself.
Siv is basically confirmed town since BK tried to quickhammer him.
The choices are obvious for me now. It's a BK/Trevor/noctis scumteam.
I'm not going to vote just yet though.

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Why would BK have tried to quickhammer Siv if he were scum too?

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Hi there.

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Yes to Trevor and you kinda answered your own question.

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Haven't we been through this before?

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THIS GAME IS STAGNATING.
TIME FOR SOMETHING DRASTIC.
VOTE: TREVOR

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That would ruin the effect.

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You guys are no fun :P

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UNVOTE:
Actually yeah let's wait for noctis and Siv.

NOCTIS AND SIV
ARE YOU GUYS SCUM?
TREVOR
ARE YOU SCUM?

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GUYS I KNOW WHO THE SCUM IS.


IT'S VOIDED.
VOTE: VOIDEDMAFIA
UNVOTE:

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VOIDED YOU AREN'T MUCH FUN TO CONVERSE WITH :P

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Trevor, are you scum?
noctis, are you scum?

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Hush you, now is not the time for those kinda questions.

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Trevor, are you scum?
noctis, are you scum?

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Id like to know that too.

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Argh, I just wanna vote someone, but I can't decide who :P

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I'm debating whether or not I should vote now, or if I should wait till closer to deadline.
Teachers are going on strike tomorrow so I'm not going to school, which means I can make deadline (though I may wake up late, which would be around 1-2 hours to deadline).

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Welp, only 55 minutes left.
I hope I'm making the right decision here.
VOTE: Trevor

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:P
Literally this morning I convinced myself that Siv was scum. Rach was town by PoE.
Oh well, GG scum. This game really started to drag on by the end.

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Because there was just under an hour to deadline when my scumread on him had finally solidified and I didn't think you guys would be able to post then.

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Because I only just managed to make my mind up on my actual scumreads 1 hour before deadline. I was so fucking confused at everything before then.

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Why was I the one who derps it for town when I was basically forced to mislynch Trevor due to time constraints :P

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And you expect me to read the rules why?

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I only actually read the last half and the part about prod times, since the first part is generally the same. Frankly, if you're going to have a different deadline lynch mechanic, you should make it more noticeable.

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I was in a doomed slot but managed to survive one day then I was quickhammered as the last scum in LYLO in 404, that's all I really remember from that game.

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Well hey, I had Rach as town anyway, reading the rules or not didn't really matter, had I left it Trevor would have died anyway.
Your activity and CONSTANT VIGILANCE were the reason I was calling you town, but your constant insistence that you were like the towniest person ever and "woe is me I'm getting lynched" is the reason I thought you were scum. That's why I was so waffly on you.

PEDIT: OMG VOIDED IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT WITHOUT YOUR PRESENCE I WOULD HAVE WON YOU SUCK OMG (just kidding ily).
Though from now on I'm not listening to Voided :P

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I don't even remember the meta I used for you.

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Voided you were the whole reason I started to second guess all my reads just fyi

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My slot was town because I was town, not because of the derp before me.

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I'm pretty aware but my meta constantly changes. I have trouble adjusting my scum play to be the same as my town meta because of it, which is why it's completely valid when I self-meta as town.

PEDIT: OF COURSE HIS REPLACEMENT WAS GREAT BECAUSE I WAS HIS REPLACEMENT.

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They do, just like asking someone if they're scum.
Trivia: I caught the last scum in LYLO once by asking the remaining players if they were scum. The person who's response made me suspicious ended up getting lynched and flipped scum.

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I wasn't expecting it to work this time anyway, I just literally had nothing to go on. It works much better in 3p LYLO though.

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Because there is less people, making a difference in the reactions much larger, therefore easier to discern.

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The latter mainly.

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