Open 455 - Tit for Tat - OVER

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Hi, I'll read up soon and post something good in a bit.

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Still reading... gosh reading walls is hard.

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Umm... numberQ.

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So, I'll read the 10 pages eventually(most likely tomorrow). Inb4 MoI complains.

UNVOTE:

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Alright, I've officially read all the walls of texts in this game. I cba to use quotes cause I'm not quoting 10 pages but I'll summarize the stuff I've read.

First off, I love you too, MoI. I'm glad I replaced into this game.

Secondly, has anyone seen the interactions or better yet lack of interaction between Potato(Om) and Klick? And what's with Om's massive buddying with MoI? Usually Om is more brash and coarse in his words. It just seems like he's sucking up to everyone and not doing much.

As for Klick, I can't really nail the feeling but I have scum vibes from him. He hasn't contributed much and scum usually tends to ask the question "Why?" a lot which is what he's been doing.

Disturbed_One's early play was shaky as he seemed nervous like newb scum. While he's not on my immediate lynch list, he's best to be looked into and probably not stick around till LyLo.

Sham's super lurky. That's scummy already. And he's not been pressured? Granted that Q wasn't the most active either but I plan to change that.

Venmar's towny. MoI's towny. Null on everyone else. Maybe a slight scum read on HerrRudi and Nekoko.

So it's question time.

@A_Potato: Can you specify at all times which head is talking? I would like to get a better town read on you if I can.

@MoI: If Klick flips scum, do you see A_Potato being scum? Also, <3.

@Sham: Scum reads please.

@Venmar: Please give reads. Or at the very least, on Potato.

Anyone else may ask me questions. I know it's sorta half-assed at this point but should cover most of my thoughts.

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Speaking of potatoes, I would really enjoy a knish right now from a street vendor.

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Not even close.

Speaking of which...

VOTE: A_Potato

Klick can go later.

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God, this isn't even my scum meta.

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If I get lynched today, Klick needs to die tomorrow.

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Yeah, I didn't like that post much either.

Bro, you haven't done squat. You barely posted shit and lurked so hard.

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umad bro

uscum bro?

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Kondi, you know me well enough. Why don't you actually make a case instead of being useless, okay?

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MoI: I have no idea.

Venmar: Town.

Mhork: Slight Town leading Null

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Bitmap you're fun :3

Tell that to MoI.

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@Klick: What do you think of A_Potato?

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I just have a town feeling on him. He hasn't done anything really scummy but his lack of activity is making me second doubts. I'd be willing to pressure wagon him so that he would post more.

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Om's a better lynch though because this isn't his town meta even with the hydra head.

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I love that sudden forced attitude change from you after I accuse you of being scum. I like my vote.

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@A_Potato: What are your thoughts on Klick?

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Hmmm.....

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Klick

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Just trying to work out why you have chosen that vote..

As for Klick, I can't really nail the feeling but I have scum vibes from him. He hasn't contributed much and scum usually tends to ask the question "Why?" a lot which is what he's been doing.

Where has Klick asked why?

When I say that I mean that he asks a lot of questions and doesn't really scumhunt.

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I found one mention of the word 'why' posted by Klick in his ISO, and it was about the case by case claiming schemes.

I am now feeling that you and Mhork are possible buddies since you've got reasons for him being scum listed down for somebody else.

I really hate being town sometimes.

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@MoI: I have no idea but I got a feeling you are town.

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Hmm, I'll take a look at Nekoko better later today. I'm sorry I didn't really notice him that much.

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Hmmm... I think HerrRudi is town now.

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You want to explain what's up with your Nekoko read?

I'll examine it when I get back from class tonight or possibly after my final tomorrow.

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Whatever.

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I wouldn't be surprised if both Klick and MoI were a scum team at this point.

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@Guile

– if you are going to reference specific posts please use the [post=XXX][/post] (where XXX is the actual post number in thread) feature going forward.

I've heard he's a good player. I think he was a hydra with Om at some point, so he is familiar with Om's thought process.

Whoever told you that about Bitmap was lying. He’s not a good player. He did hydra with Om at one point – it was in fact the game that I brought up to Om earlier where he was well off-base – [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22693]Open 425[/ur]. Also – I don’t think a single hydra occurance makes someone read proficient in general and I certainly don’t think it does for Bitmap.

I will use the post thing, thanks. It's better then the way I used to do it which was annoying and why I stopped doing it.

As for Bitmap. I played with him once and he was bad. But I read a bit about that hydra game and a couple more games from Bitmap and he has improved substantially since that time I played with him. Thinking back, I think he was scum in those games. I am using my fallible memory here though. Now the reason that I said that, which I realize it did not come clear in my post, is because I want to point out that Bitmap is good enough to overturn a scum-NQ slot with good posts. Which in turn means that we should be careful.

You mean how people hustle each other in a game of mafia all the time in order to fake meta? OH GOLLY GEE!
You mean how I purposely acted retarded in order to coin a SK victory and that the mafia team was so butthurt that they didn't want scum QT to be released? OH GOLLY GEE!

You mean how MoI is using the "Defend the VI" defense in order to gain towncred cause he knows I'm damn well town? OH GOLLY GEE!

Also, reading walls of text especially with MoI gets me off track and I'm not used to replacing in.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: MoI

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Now the reason that I said that, which I realize it did not come clear in my post, is because I want to point out that Bitmap is good enough to overturn a scum-NQ slot with good posts.

Just let me say for the record I strongly disagree with this stance. I don't think I have ever seen Bitmap (including recent games) play in a way that would redeem a slot. In fact I've seen him doom or almost doom several Town slots lately.

I would love you to link these games provided they aren't ongoing.

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You mean how people hustle each other in a game of mafia all the time in order to fake meta? OH GOLLY GEE!
You mean how I purposely acted retarded in order to coin a SK victory and that the mafia team was so butthurt that they didn't want scum QT to be released? OH GOLLY GEE!

Yes, competent players do those things. I have NEVER seen a game where you have demonstrated anything close to ability commensurate with being a competent player.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22820

How about actually being in a scum team with PMysterious... and then winning?

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I would love you to link these games provided they aren't ongoing.

Literal Video Mafia?

How's that for starters? You played poorly and got run up to L-1. What did you do then? In a limited reveal game (which was Mod declared from the start) you simply refused to claim. And got lynched for it. That was a stupid move in and of itself, but was compounded by the fact you could have used your role to lock in a 1v1 Vote Conflict that Day which is an overwhelmingly Town role via site Meta and might have turned the tide.

There one example. Do you need more?

Okay... I'll admit that was a bad game on my part. Although I was laughing when you were forced to post pictures.

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You mean how people hustle each other in a game of mafia all the time in order to fake meta? OH GOLLY GEE!
You mean how I purposely acted retarded in order to coin a SK victory and that the mafia team was so butthurt that they didn't want scum QT to be released? OH GOLLY GEE!

Yes, competent players do those things. I have NEVER seen a game where you have demonstrated anything close to ability commensurate with being a competent player.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22665

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I'll give you a hint, MoI's scum.

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Also, the "Defend the VI" tactic is a scum tell from my experience. MattP used the same tactic in History Mafia.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22756

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Can I just get vigged tonight?

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Actually, I think Nekoko is town now.

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BITMAP. NICE TO SEE YOU. HOW ABOUT ANSWERING MY QUESTION

What was the question again?

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I'll post a wall, I swear.

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Alright, fuck the wall of text.

A_Potato's scum because he's not shouting and actually using logic unlike how Om would usually play this game.

If A_Potato is scum, then Klick is most likely scum for lack of interactions between the 2 slots(distancing).

MoI is scummish... well... I have that gut feeling but since MoI isn't going to be the lynch...

VOTE: Klick

Also, I heard MoI uses a lot of sarcasm as scum.

Nekoko brings up good points about A_Potato, MoI, and Klick so I'm hoping she's town if Klick flips scum.

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Bro, if I was scum, I would try harder. ilytoo Om.

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Bitmap what the fuck are you serious with this shit

Yeah.

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No

We are lynching Bitmap today

This is 10000000% the best lynch available

VOTE: Bitmap

And no fucks were given.

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Right... Why are you not going after Potato if you think he's scum? Your Klick 'case' is essentially that he is scum if Potato is scum, no?

1 day with little time to get another bandwagon up.

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If you are town, what is hard about answering my question.

I honestly don't understand how you can be town.

Nekoko is town because I like her points.

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And more importantly, if he was a scumread how did you "not notice him that much"

Reads change.

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They do, absolutely, but why did you say that you didn't notice him that much after saying he was a scumread

Because my reads were meh because I got lazy when I was reading the 10 pages.

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And I mean, Om popped out more to be scum while MoI and Klick just felt weird. I guess I overlooked Nekoko.

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@Shamrock: I'm going to be blunt honest, do you really think I'm town? How to I play as scum?

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Sorry, I meant to say "Do you really think I'm not town?

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kfd;ajgkl;jfkl;ad why is your signature so accurate

Fuck it I'm going to figure this out when I'm sober

pedit: you know perfectly well that I've only seen you as town

Om knows my scum meta and he knows this isn't my scum meta. Thus, Om is scum.

Also, vodka and redbull.

Also, the signature came from a game where I won as an SK.

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Oh boy, Om is indeed scum.

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I thought you did... 0_O

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What I don't understand Bitmap, is that if you think MoI is scum, then why are you voting Klick? Do you think MoI and Klick are part of the scum team? Are you suggesting their "1v1" might actually be a gambit?

I think they are both scum trying to distance themselves.

Also,

Conditional V/LA: There's a hurricane coming towards NYC so if I'm out of power, I won't be on mafiascum for the next two days.